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Mavs 108, Thunder 116
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(03-13-2021, 03:01 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: SH, I respect your opinions and basketball knowledge, so please don't take this otherwise. I present a slightly different point. 

I just want to say how ridiculous it was for Carlisle to give Green a pitiful 2 minutes in a game where we sat our 2 best players.

I suspect that Green either (1) did something that Carlisle specifically told him not to do, or (2) didn't do something that Carlisle specifically told him to do. Maybe not, but I think he was pulled because he wasn't playing like Carlisle wanted him to. 

I don't understand. Did Carlisle not want Green? A player can't develop getting 12 DNP-CD's in a row and then coming back to spot minutes in a scheduled loss. 

I don't think Carlisle viewed this as a scheduled loss. I think he was genuinely surprised and disappointed that they lost. I realize the irony of saying this when KP and Luka were rested, but I nevertheless think that was his frame of reference.

Green might develop faster if he had game time. But rookies can also develop in practice, and hopefully they are. 

If RC didn't want Green, why would Donnie draft him? Disappointing to say the least, but not surprising given the past high athletic low skilled players Mavs have drafted.

I think there is a belief among many fans that the team should be giving the rookies development minutes this season. (Development minutes being minutes where the rookies are expected to be learning and playing through mistakes, as opposed to minutes where the rooks are primarily on the court in the expectation that they will make a positive impact on the game.)

Maybe giving the rookies more minutes should be the plan. Maybe not. I don't express a view on that in this post. But, at this point in the season, I think it is crystal clear that it isn't. 

Given that, I guess I don't really understand why people continue to be surprised when the rooks don't play competitive minutes, or get quick hooks. I think it was pretty simple -- Rick was trying to win the game without his two best players, put Green out there in the hopes that he would be a positive, then took him off right away when it appeared he wasn't ready.

I actually hear what you're saying in a larger sense. Maybe Rick assessed the Mavs' chances of winning wrongly and should have treated the match as a noncompetitive game. Maybe he's wrong about Green and the other rookies, and they could be contributing now. Maybe Donnie drafted the wrong guys. Maybe the organization should be prioritizing developing the rookies more. All of these are legitimately debatable points. 

I just think the in-game decision itself isn't so hard to understand, if we're right that Rick's instructions are to prioritize winning every game with the guys who are available over giving rookies development time.   
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Mavs 108, Thunder 116 - by mavsluvr - 03-12-2021, 04:52 AM
RE: Mavs 108, Thunder 116 - by Paul Gasol - 03-12-2021, 06:03 AM
RE: Mavs 108, Thunder 116 - by mavsluvr - 03-12-2021, 09:15 PM
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RE: Mavs 108, Thunder 116 - by ClutchDirk - 03-12-2021, 09:56 AM
RE: Mavs 108, Thunder 116 - by Paul Gasol - 03-12-2021, 10:05 AM
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RE: Mavs 108, Thunder 116 - by mtrot - 03-12-2021, 10:54 AM
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RE: Mavs 108, Thunder 116 - by mavsluvr - 03-12-2021, 09:23 PM
RE: Mavs 108, Thunder 116 - by mavsluvr - 03-12-2021, 10:53 PM
RE: Mavs 108, Thunder 116 - by SleepingHero - 03-13-2021, 03:01 AM
RE: Mavs 108, Thunder 116 - by mavsluvr - 03-13-2021, 09:44 AM
RE: Mavs 108, Thunder 116 - by Mavs2021 - 03-13-2021, 11:27 AM
RE: Mavs 108, Thunder 116 - by mavsluvr - 03-13-2021, 12:13 PM
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RE: Mavs 108, Thunder 116 - by mavsluvr - 03-13-2021, 01:35 PM
RE: Mavs 108, Thunder 116 - by HoosierDaddyKid - 03-13-2021, 08:22 AM
RE: Mavs 108, Thunder 116 - by ThisIStheYear - 03-13-2021, 12:35 PM
RE: Mavs 108, Thunder 116 - by mavsluvr - 03-13-2021, 12:44 PM
RE: Mavs 108, Thunder 116 - by ItsGoTime - 03-13-2021, 12:53 PM
RE: Mavs 108, Thunder 116 - by Kammrath - 03-13-2021, 03:02 PM
RE: Mavs 108, Thunder 116 - by mavsluvr - 03-13-2021, 03:26 PM
RE: Mavs 108, Thunder 116 - by mavsluvr - 03-13-2021, 03:09 PM
RE: Mavs 108, Thunder 116 - by Kammrath - 03-13-2021, 03:34 PM
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RE: Mavs 108, Thunder 116 - by SleepingHero - 03-13-2021, 05:19 PM
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