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The Rotation (2020-2021)
(11-30-2020, 12:33 PM)fifteenth Wrote:
(11-30-2020, 12:13 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: The problem is that KP doesn't have as much to do when Powell or any other non-shooting big is out there


I don't think this is a given. I think it remains to be seen. The fact that KP was slowly working back into form while KP was still healthy means that we haven't really seen a comfortable KP and healthy DP together yet. I'm pretty convinced that if Powell is healthy then we'll get to see whether it works or not.

So in the Mavs offense they do move around and set multiple screens. That can theoretically get KP open but again when you have a non-shooting big out there it messes up the spacing bc they will cheat towards the shooters. KP can set up on the elbow but Rick doesn't like to go to that a lot.

The best scenario is where KP has all of his options open to really mix things up. He can do any number of things offensively when he is the 5. The spacing is also ridiculous with 5 outside shooters which helps both KP and Luka operate as playmakers, not to mention secondary ball handlers like THJ or J Rich.

I am not just saying this to make a case for this type of play, I am telling you all that this decision has already been made. This is how Rick runs his offense now. Since Powell went down you had a lot of shuffling around on offense through the TDL and playoffs and now offseason. Nothing I have seen in Rick's lineups or the MBT's moves has given me any indication that they are going back to Powell + KP in that starting lineup.

(11-30-2020, 02:20 PM)Jason Terry Wrote: What KP is is just what we both describe: hybrid Dirk/Chandler. The Dirk Era IS the new era of basketball. We have been playing new style ever since Nellie ball. It just seems different since everyone else stole our formula. I rarely remember Dirk having a “post up game”. It was more a midrange game disguised as post up. Everything was based on using his large frame to gain an advantage using angles. KP can do the same even though he’s nowhere near the all time great level of shooter.

I just don’t get how it’s a “problem KP doesn’t have much to do if another big is out there setting screens”. That’s not a problem to me, it’s the solution. KP setting a million screens = short career

I disagree, the Dirk era did not have this kind of spacing at all. The NBA has changed dramatically in favor of at least 4 outside shooters being on the court at the same time (if possible). Dirk would probably play with a hybrid 4/5 in today's offense altho he was so good offensively you could really put any big next to him and he would get to work.

About Dirk rarely having a post-up game, he absolutely did. He operated at the elbow not deep in the paint but it was definitely a back to the basket post-up game that he feasted on his entire career. KP likes doing similar things, he just isn't that good at it. A lot of his post-ups lead to a wild shot, altho I expect him to improve over time. That being said Rick has said statically it's not a good shot anymore.
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