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DRAFT: #18 [Green] & #31 [Terry] & trade for #36 [Tyler Bey]
(10-23-2020, 03:15 PM)Kammrath Wrote: Who is disregarding the player based on "one negative"? I am concerned about his defense translating for more than one reason. Wingspan is just part of that. 


Sorry, you mentioned 2 negatives. Yet completely ignored all the positives, that also count when playing defense. I am not sure if you could read the article, but I was really impressed by his smarts, work ethic, basketball IQ and will to play. I don't know how Quickley stands in that regard, but it would be necessary to know to be able to compare. Surely his impressive wingspan led to less steals and blocks against same competition as Bane. FT % is actually the only thing Quickley was better at. 

As for 3 point shooting. Bane had a pretty steady percentage last 3 seasons. Quickley was just 34 % on 87 shots a season before.

Let's also compare what an established writer have to say about both

 [b]Immanuel Quickley | 6-3 guard | 20 years old, sophomore | Kentucky[/b]

Quickley makes his first mock draft appearance after deciding to declare for the draft fully in recent weeks. The SEC Player of the Year in 2020, Quickley is an absolutely elite level shooter. He hit about 43 percent of his 3-point attempts this past season for Kentucky despite being at the top of scouting reports throughout the final two-thirds of the SEC season, and made 92.3 percent of his free throws. And a lot of those shots came on the move, either off the bounce or coming off of screens. He’s also capable of defending up the lineup despite being 6-foot-3, although I wouldn’t say he’s overly switchable and trustworthy there. The issue, however, is that he’s not a point guard. He’s purely an off-guard that can knock down shots, and might not be able to really do much else at an NBA level. Given the importance of shooting in today’s NBA, that might be enough to get the job done. But it’s not a surefire translation, and scouts are mixed on if his future is in the NBA or overseas.

[b]Desmond Bane | 6-5 guard | 22 years old, senior | TCU[/b]
This is a bit of a spike for Bane up to No. 21. Sources around the league have begun noting that they’d be surprised if he got out of the first round right now, simply because almost every team at the bottom of the first round could make a reasonable case for selecting him. Miami really values shooting and is said to be a fan. Denver could use another wing shooter. Utah could use another wing shooter and two-way player. Milwaukee could certainly use another reliable shot-maker next to Giannis. Boston tends to value these big, strong wings with size and shooting ability, and they have two picks in this range. The Lakers will continue to work to surround LeBron James and Anthony Davis with shooters going forward. And of course, no team could use shooting more than Philadelphia, who desperately needs to surround Ben Simmons and Joel Embiid with more floor-spacing.

In his four years at TCU, Bane made 43.3 percent of his near-600 3-point attempts. He also improved a lot this year as an option with the ball in his hands. The big concern here is that he’s 6-foot-6 with a negative wingspan that hinders him when contesting shooters both on-ball and when closing out. However, he has good strength and knows where to be defensively. He should turn into a solid role-playing floor-spacer at the next level, and I have a late first-round grade on him. He’s been a riser throughout the pre-draft process for a lot of the reasons mentioned above. He’s gone into interviews and has been impressive with his understanding of how he’s going to operate at the next level. The name Joe Harris has come up a lot from front offices.


Btw - which stats are saying Quickley is a better defender? The way I see it, Bane is actually better.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/pla...ley-1.html

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/pla...ane-1.html

Just a final argument. I don't think Lowry or CP3 are excellent defenders because of their exceptional physical predispositions. They are excellent because they play hard and smart, they are tough, willing to sacrifice their body. I can see all of this in Bane.
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