12-12-2025, 10:52 AM
(12-12-2025, 10:38 AM)mvossman Wrote: I think if that is the kind of return you are looking for then you are never going to trade AD (which I think is a mistake). I am also concerned that if this is the FO mindset, they are actually seriously considering extending AD (which I think would be an even bigger mistake).
You said that if we trade for that pick we don't have to worry about tanking for our own. I interpreted that to mean that as long as we had one good pick we didn't need to worry about getting another, but maybe you were just saying that we would organically tank after that trade?
"I think if that is the kind of return you are looking for then you are never going to trade AD (which I think is a mistake)."
I think Dan spoke to this well. Opinions on what Davis could/should return are all over the place. It's safe to say we have different opinions. I will try to simplify what I think he should net you in-season. Expiring OR good player + young player + FRP(s). The picks depend on the other two. If it's just an expiring contract (filler) and a meh young player, then the higher/better pick package. The deal with ATL is fairly simple for me to show that value. Someone like Toronto, not so much. I don't know if 5 FRP's would make me like the players that would have to be included. (I can admit, I'm not a huge fan of just getting a bunch of picks anyway). Chicago is also easy to show where I'm at in terms of value. Detroit, I struggle with but can find something that works.
"You said that if we trade for that pick we don't have to worry about tanking for our own."
All I mean is that you've secured a lotto pick that has a high chance to be top 10 already. It allows you to keep your options open later into the season on if/when you need to start intentionally trying to lose games. IF you only had the one pick (your own), it doesn't offer the same flexibility. I think the difference between pick 13 and pick 15, 16, 17 is not all that significant. You can just play the season out and know that you have a lotto pick and your own pick, wherever it falls (13-17).