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GAME 12: DAL (8-4) @ SAS (4-8) | 123-109 win
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(11-13-2021, 11:07 AM)fifteenth Wrote: Folks are getting upset about Kam posting concerns about Luka's early season performance

You guys should have been here for Dirk's career!

Kam actually likes Luka, and he's not saying that Luka won't get this figured out

Over Dirk's career we had multiple people who weren't just concerend about stretches of play by Dirk...They posted for years about how Dirk would never lead his team to a championship. Some of them were famous for it and multiple folks here couuld mention some names. They came out to play after each loss to talk about all Dirk's faults, with no attempt to offer any suggestion of hope for Dirk. And some of them we never heard from again after 2011.

Safe to say that they didn´t use +/- or advanced metrics to attack Dirk. In his prime Dirk was among the league leaders. There is obviously more than one RAPM but to highlight how dominant Dirk was in this kind of metrics.

I think this is the most commonly used RAPM version.

https://basketball-analytics.gitlab.io/rapm-data/

Dirk ranked

2nd in 2001
3rd in 2002
1st in 2003 
6th in 2004 
3rd in 2005
4th in 2006
3rd in 2007
2nd in 2008
45th in 2009
10th in 2010
1st in 2011
3rd in 2012
50th in 2013
8th in 2014

Adjusted for minutes played. Turning the numbers into a wins added metric. He lead the league in 01, 02, 05, 07 and 11.
Dirk also ranks 3rd in career raw +/- (behind Duncan and LBJ). Tracking started in 96/97.

There is something to it when @"Kammrath" says that Luka hasn´t reached the level of all time greats yet. His impact isn´t comparable to prime Dirk. Or other all time greats. Looking at those metrics it´s more or less a list of the best players of the last 20 years at the top. LBJ, Duncan, Garnett, Dirk.
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RE: GAME 12: DAL (8-4) @ SAS (4-8) | 123-109 win - by dirkfansince1998 - 11-13-2021, 12:10 PM

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