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(07-22-2026, 06:55 PM)RasheedsBigWhiteSpot Wrote: The question I have, if LeGM is trying to manipulate one last time, and Kyrie is considered a "get", is:
- Would Cleveland try and do a SnT for Kyrie with Harden being the outgoing legal for them?
- Obviously Dallas would have no interest in Harden. What 3rd team would be interested in taking on Harden?
- How much could the Mavs extract by helping two desperate teams?
I think GS feels like they have to do something to help Steph in his last few years. Would Harden and frontcourt help be enough to crack either Yaxel and their 1sts or both?
Cavs get Kyrie (and Lebron)
Warriors get Harden (SnT $39 mil in 1st year) and PJ, Martin
Mavs get Jimmy Butler, B.Pod, Moody and either 4 unprotected 1sts or 3 1sts and Yaxel
The Mavs will have opportunitically turned two desperate teams who are stuck, into a tier above what they presently are.
GS gets a top 25 player and a proven 3-D wing. I don't feel like they can simply go into next season as is.
Cleveland gets their version of the Paul George trade, letting Lebron pick his wingman
Dallas would set itself up at the TDL with a massive expiring contract and a war chest to pick and choose the best Robin for Cooper.
Edit: my numbers are off in the fit by adding Martin and Moody, but the general concept stands
Respectfully...
Kyrie fought to get out of CLE after a few years with LBJ, even though the previous three years they went 1-2 in the Finals. Is there any evidence that he, Kyrie, would welcome a reunion with LBJ?
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(07-23-2026, 09:59 AM)Jmaciscool Wrote: That's exactly what I thought too - I went into it thinking it was a win-win, that DLo would fill in admirably for a season and get a better, longer contract from another team based on his play here, and the Mavs would have a stop gap, serviceable point guard while Kyrie rehabbed. Fully expected he would be the no questions asked starting PG while here.
Kind of mind boggling that none of the top 3 PGs from last fall are even with the team anymore.
I guess you could kinda squint and say that BWill is since his rights have not been renounced, unless I missed a memo.
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(07-23-2026, 11:26 AM)michaeltex Wrote: Respectfully...
Kyrie fought to get out of CLE after a few years with LBJ, even though the previous three years they went 1-2 in the Finals. Is there any evidence that he, Kyrie, would welcome a reunion with LBJ?
GS isn't going to mortgage their future for Harden and PJ so it's a moot point imo. They just don't move the needle to trade away all your craft capital. Great trade from the Mavs side. Terrible for GS imo.
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(07-22-2026, 02:09 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: Koff, koff SCOOT!! Koff, koff
Scoot has been talked a lot recently. I really don't know his game enough to say yes or no. My quick glance is he has not shown he is good enough to have the ball as your offensive engine and not good enough shooter off the ball. Maybe that can change.
I have no idea of Portland's plans, but they need to do something right? Scoot is entering his last year of his deal. I am sure his agency is not happy that there is not a clean role with a lot of minutes. Sharpe signed his extension and two coaches have sort of lost trust in him. Jrue is the best of the bunch but has the highest salary and is the oldest.
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07-23-2026, 12:00 PM
(07-23-2026, 11:26 AM)michaeltex Wrote: Respectfully...
Kyrie fought to get out of CLE after a few years with LBJ, even though the previous three years they went 1-2 in the Finals. Is there any evidence that he, Kyrie, would welcome a reunion with LBJ?
To take your point one step farther, I think the MOST realistic possibility of Lebron pairing up with Kyrie would be Lebron coming to Dallas.
Likelihood? Quite small.
But I think the other ways to pair them up are even less likely. The Mavs love Kyrie, he's found a home, he doesn't want to go anywhere else, and he's super influential.
Adding LBJ would be hard to squeeze in, since they already have too many players as it is. And LAL can't sign him to make a sign-and-trade scenario, so the Mavs would have to shed 2 players somehow, or a 3-for-1 or 4-for-2. All of it is far fetched. Yet imo the most likely way for LBJ to pair up with Kyrie, if that's his goal.
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(07-23-2026, 12:00 PM)F Gump Wrote: To take your point one step farther, I think the MOST realistic possibility of Lebron pairing up with Kyrie would be Lebron coming to Dallas.
Likelihood? Quite small.
But I think the other ways to pair them up are even less likely. The Mavs love Kyrie, he's found a home, he doesn't want to go anywhere else, and he's super influential.
Adding LBJ would be hard to squeeze in, since they already have too many players as it is. And LAL can't sign him to make a sign-and-trade scenario, so the Mavs would have to shed 2 players somehow, or a 3-for-1 or 4-for-2. All of it is far fetched. Yet imo the most likely way for LBJ to pair up with Kyrie, if that's his goal.
And shedding those players would likely gut the recently acquired roster improvements in favor of a year rental on Grandpa LeBron. Leaving DAL with a big hole and no assets afterward.
I'd rather endure another 26-win season than bring in the LBJ circus.
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https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/4942...-offseason
What we've learned about all 30 teams this offseason.
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The Mavericks would be a team worth monitoring for Bennedict Mathurin in a sign-and-trade framework.
The Clippers would like to retain Mathurin, but the franchise has become open to sign-and-trade proposals surrounding the 24-year-old wing, per
@JakeLFischer
See, the issue with this Diva/Leonard stuff is you can't keep this stuff secret forever no matter how hush-hush Masai and the FO are.
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(07-23-2026, 11:26 AM)michaeltex Wrote: Respectfully...
Kyrie fought to get out of CLE after a few years with LBJ, even though the previous three years they went 1-2 in the Finals. Is there any evidence that he, Kyrie, would welcome a reunion with LBJ?
I'm, by no means, suggesting that Kyrie should be forced our. If he doesn't want to go anywhere, cool. Happy he's here. But I'm merely piggybacking off the post that suggested that Lebron was conspiring to get Kyrie.
Plus, other tweets have suggested that Lebron doesn't want to play with Harden, who is just sitting out there.
And there's a vast difference in "mortgaging the future" in a Giannis trade where every pick and swap available goes versus one 1st and one swap. I mean, it's hyperbolic to equate the two positions.
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(07-23-2026, 09:43 AM)RoyTarpleysGhost Wrote: There was a large contingent on this forum that thought the Mavs were NBA title contenders last year with Dangelo Russell as the starting PG on opening night. (while Kyrie rehabbed)
I wasn't one of them..
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(07-23-2026, 12:24 PM)Moviemavguy Wrote: See, the issue with this Diva/Leonard stuff is you can't keep this stuff secret forever no matter how hush-hush Masai and the FO are.
It sucks, plain and simple. I wish I could say I was confident this would be the last time LeBron pulls this stuff during an off-season.
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(07-23-2026, 12:39 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: It sucks, plain and simple. I wish I could say I was confident this would be the last time LeBron pulls this stuff during an off-season.
He will continue to be super present for the next decades, no worries. From a brand building and marketing perspective he does everything right with dragging it out and staying in the news.
I miss Dirk who only did some selected commercial partnerships because wanted maximum focus on basketball and his game.
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(07-23-2026, 09:53 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: That's true, lol.
I never for a second thought they were contenders, but I sure expected more from Russell than what they got. A lot more. Apparently he was so bad they didn't even attempt to get much from him. That was the most puzzling thing about the first month of last season.
Same.
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07-23-2026, 01:04 PM
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Irving + Christie to Cleveland
Thompson + Cisse + Harden to Toronto
Quickley + Barrett + Thomas + Strus + 2031 + 2033 Cavs unprotected 1sts to Dallas
Cavs swap Harden + Thomas + future 1sts for Irving, Christie and LeBron´s signature.
Raptors get two veterans on the Kawhi championship timeline and a back-up center.
Quickley/De Larrea/Sasser
Barrett/Risacher/Thomas
Flagg/Marshall/Biberovic
Washington/Johnson/X
Gafford/Aldama/Lively
X = try to trade Martin or eventually waive Strus expiring contract.
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The Mavericks would be a team worth monitoring for Bennedict Mathurin in a sign-and-trade framework.
The Clippers would like to retain Mathurin, but the franchise has become open to sign-and-trade proposals surrounding the 24-year-old wing, per @JakeLFischer.
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(07-23-2026, 12:24 PM)Moviemavguy Wrote: The Mavericks would be a team worth monitoring for Bennedict Mathurin in a sign-and-trade framework.
The Clippers would like to retain Mathurin, but the franchise has become open to sign-and-trade proposals surrounding the 24-year-old wing, per
@JakeLFischer
See, the issue with this Diva/Leonard stuff is you can't keep this stuff secret forever no matter how hush-hush Masai and the FO are.
So is Fischer reporting both 1) that the Mavs are in play AND 2) that the Clippers are open to a SnT or is he just reporting the second part and the rest stems from that twitter guy I have only heard of a few weeks ago?
If Fischer is reporting both then I like our chances that this is a real thing.
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07-23-2026, 01:57 PM
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(07-23-2026, 01:43 PM)JamesConway816 Wrote: So is Fischer reporting both 1) that the Mavs are in play AND 2) that the Clippers are open to a SnT or is he just reporting the second part and the rest stems from that twitter guy I have only heard of a few weeks ago?
If Fischer is reporting both then I like our chances that this is a real thing.
For sure, but once you start hearing about potential deals, then the likelihood of them happening tends to lessen.
And who knows what is going to happen with Leonard punishment-wise.
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(07-23-2026, 01:43 PM)JamesConway816 Wrote: So is Fischer reporting both 1) that the Mavs are in play AND 2) that the Clippers are open to a SnT or is he just reporting the second part and the rest stems from that twitter guy I have only heard of a few weeks ago?
If Fischer is reporting both then I like our chances that this is a real thing.
He´s just throwing sh*t at a wall and see what sticks.
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(07-23-2026, 01:04 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: Irving + Christie to Cleveland
Thompson + Cisse + Harden to Toronto
Quickley + Barrett + Thomas + Strus + 2031 + 2033 Cavs unprotected 1sts to Dallas
Cavs swap Harden + Thomas + future 1sts for Irving, Christie and LeBron´s signature.
Raptors get two veterans on the Kawhi championship timeline and a back-up center.
Quickley/De Larrea/Sasser
Barrett/Risacher/Thomas
Flagg/Marshall/Biberovic
Washington/Johnson/X
Gafford/Aldama/Lively
X = try to trade Martin or eventually waive Strus expiring contract.
With that lineup the court will be sooooooo small... Too easy to defend, no shooters.
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07-23-2026, 02:19 PM
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What's the most money we could give Mathurin?
I dont believe in the player but I wouldn't hate the gamble at a reasonable number. If we have to pay this dude big money for four years, I am so out.
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