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06-28-2026, 06:50 PM
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If this rumor were true, there are potential versions of it I'd hate, but also versions I wouldn't mind so much. Depends on the outgoing, for me.
I see no point in keeping Kyrie around with the way things currently are, and we've discussed that to death. But, if Leonard were in the mix, suddenly things get a little more interesting. AND, if the cost is basically only stuff we all agree ALSO doesn't fit here already, anyway? Idk if I'd hate it.
REALLY not interested in giving away any more future draft capital for a while, personally. I think that's where I'd draw the line. That just seems like the fastest possible way to ruin the Flagg era and kill any hope for the team or its fans. You could convince me recouping draft capital isn't as important as I think it is, but you can't convince me it's a good idea to continue mortgaging the future every six months.
Ultimately I don't think this makes a lot of sense in light of the other moves they've been making. But, it's a brave new Mavs world out there, so who knows?
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(06-28-2026, 06:46 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: Yeah, I would have little interest in a soon to be 35 year old Leonard. Now is it something to clear out some long term salary? Potentially I could see it a part of a three team trade. Like the Toronto one. Maybe dallas gets the package from Toronto?
I too would be disappointed if they made a move for Leonard. Especially if it consisted of draft equity.
I'm totally with this, conceptually.
But, if Dallas gets involved with a Kawhi Leonard trade and ends up eating Poetl so the other two teams don't have to, I'm telling everyone now...
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06-28-2026, 06:58 PM
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(06-28-2026, 06:52 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: I'm totally with this, conceptually.
But, if Dallas gets involved with a Kawhi Leonard trade and ends up eating Poetl so the other two teams don't have to, I'm telling everyone now...
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I am obiously out on this madness but hypothetically...give up unprotected future picks or absorb Poeltl's contract?
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In reality, I can't even imagine the Clippers liking that offer.
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(06-28-2026, 06:58 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: I am obiously out on this madness but hypothetically...give up unprotected future picks or absorb Poeltl't contract?
Neither. If you say I have to choose one, I say "neither" again, even louder this time. If you hold a gun to my head and ask a third time, I ask how many future 1sts I get out of eating Poetl, and who they're coming from. I'd need to know that before committing to an answer.
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What picks do we even have to trade?
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06-28-2026, 07:04 PM
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(06-28-2026, 07:02 PM)RoyTarpleysGhost Wrote: What picks do we even have to trade?
Dude, the picks in the early 2030's are starting to be eligible. THOSE are "the picks" in question.
There's just no way anyone could be excited about trading those for a 35 year old. Cooper Flagg is 19!!! Ujiri has all the time in the world. I'd say his job security and runway are both much higher than average for NBA Presidents/GMs.
I just don't think it makes even a little sense.
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(06-28-2026, 07:02 PM)RoyTarpleysGhost Wrote: What picks do we even have to trade?
Mavs Future Picks:
'27: FRP owed to CHA if not Top-2 | SRP (CHI)
'28: FRP (OKC right to Swap)
'29: FRP (LAL) | SRP (HOU)
'30: FRP (SAS right to Swap), FRP (GSW-Top 20 Protected)
'31: FRP (Own)
'32: FRP (Own)
'33: FRP (Own) | SRP (Own)
*If the '30 GSW pick doesn't convey, it converts to their '30 SRP
**Can trade up to (4) first round picks: ‘29 (LAL), ‘30 (GSW), ‘31 (Own), ‘33 (Own)
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06-28-2026, 07:08 PM
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PJ, Klay, the GS 2030 pick, the HOU 2029 2nd rd pick.
Boom done.
Don’t touch your 2031, 2032, 2033 picks.
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Lets also not forget Kawhi won't be getting out of bed unless he has an expensive contract extension too.
from reports of interest, the Mavs may have 100 players next year. The athletic is usually pretty accurate, but these things typically don't leak out unless it is old news.
Leonard was really good last year. Although, you can't count on him and doesn't fit the timeline.
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Hopefully we stay patient. Kyrie and 2nd year Flagg is enough of an improved team. Run it back let coop, morez, sergio and max continue to improve and at the deadline evaluate where you are. I get it though Flagg is good enough now to go into win now mode but if you do it like this with older guys you lose a lot of flexibility down the line when he’s expecting to compete every year
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(06-28-2026, 07:06 PM)Smitty Wrote: Mavs Future Picks:
'27: FRP owed to CHA if not Top-2 | SRP (CHI)
'28: FRP (OKC right to Swap)
'29: FRP (LAL) | SRP (HOU)
'30: FRP (SAS right to Swap), FRP (GSW-Top 20 Protected)
'31: FRP (Own)
'32: FRP (Own)
'33: FRP (Own) | SRP (Own)
*If the '30 GSW pick doesn't convey, it converts to their '30 SRP
**Can trade up to (4) first round picks: ‘29 (LAL), ‘30 (GSW), ‘31 (Own), ‘33 (Own)
Like, this will start to look better again if they can just go A COUPLE OF YEARS without pissing any of this capital away. It doesn't take long, and hopefully they can ADD to it bit during that time, even.
I just can't wrap my head around how dumb it would be to sell Flagg's entire future here away before he turns 21. I thought they did it too soon with Luka, honestly, but at least he was in his early 20's when it started.
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(06-28-2026, 07:08 PM)RoyTarpleysGhost Wrote: PJ, Klay, the GS 2030 pick, and some random 2nd rd pick.
Boom done.
I'd probably do that, exact trade. I don't think it gets done at that price, but that one wouldn't hurt.
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(06-28-2026, 07:09 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Like, this will start to look better again if they can just go A COUPLE OF YEARS without pissing any of this capital away. It doesn't take long, and hopefully they can ADD to it bit during that time, even.
I just can't wrap my head around how dumb it would be to sell Flagg's entire future here away before he turns 21. I thought they did it too soon with Luka, honestly, but at least he was in his early 20's when it started.
I absolutely wouldn’t do the KL trade if I’m in the big chair. Mostly because the whole idea is flawed. Three of your top four players are all EXTREME injury risks. There’s maybe 1% chance of it working… and that’s me trying to be generous.
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06-28-2026, 07:16 PM
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Just a reminder
The San Antonio Spurs have traded Kawhi Leonard and Danny Green to the Toronto Raptors for DeMar DeRozan, Jakob Poeltl and a protected 2019 first-round pick, the Spurs announced Wednesday.
The first-round pick Toronto sent to San Antonio is a protected 1-20 selection, a source told ESPN. After one year, it becomes two second-round picks.
Y’all need to quit acting like we’re about to mortgage our future for 35yr old Kawhi on an expiring contract.
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(06-28-2026, 07:09 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: Lets also not forget Kawhi won't be getting out of bed unless he has an expensive contract extension too.
This is the scary part even if they don't give up much in a trade. Kiss any kind of 2028 flexibility goodbye.
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(06-28-2026, 07:08 PM)RoyTarpleysGhost Wrote: PJ, Klay, the GS 2030 pick, the HOU 2029 2nd rd pick.
Boom done.
Don’t touch your 2031, 2032, 2033 picks.
That is basically two seconds. I probably still wouldn't do it because I think it will be more headache than value (like his next contract), but I won't completely lose my shit if that's the cost.
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On the one hand, no thanks. On the other, sure. On the third, I'm good man. But on the other, so is he. But. But but but. Idk. But.
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(06-28-2026, 07:17 PM)mvossman Wrote: That is basically two seconds. I probably still wouldn't do it because I think it will be more headache than value (like his next contract), but I won't completely lose my shit if that's the cost.
Yeah, they'd basically be putting themselves right back where they were with AD. It just doesn't make any sense to me, man. I can't see it.
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Continuing the concerning part...last big rumor it was the Raptors vs Wolves for Ball. That happened the next morning. Oh and Bridges to Phx happened today.
Big moves are going on so...
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