Trade & Free Agency 2026/2027

[HoosierDaddyKid]

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7395474...uxury-tax/

Knicks should foot the 2nd apron. Not doing so will be more costly. The Knicks’ front office knows this. And yet, it also understands that dipping below the second apron would lead to much of its depth flocking elsewhere, which is why, despite Dolan’s desires, it wants to go over the second apron, according to league sources, who were granted anonymity to speak freely. But so far, Dolan has not changed his mind.

New York Times

[HoosierDaddyKid]

Just to echo Dan's thinking ... wouldn't Gafford be a nice sweetner for Detroit? And Klay? That almost seems too easy.

Pretty sure they don't want Gafford or Klay. Neither fits their timeline.

[Winter]

Pretty sure they don't want Gafford or Klay. Neither fits their timeline.

Isn't Detroit's timeline right now?

[SleepingHero]

NBACentral (@TheDunkCentral)
The Nets have interest in stealing Mitchell Robinson away from the Knicks, per @TheSteinLine

“The Stein Line has learned that the Nets have legitimate interest in trying to sign big man Mitchell Robinson away from the team across the East River that just won its first NBA

[SleepingHero]

The Ron Holland dream is still alive...Gafford to Detroit...maybe Klay also?  They will have a massive TPE when the S&T Duren to LAL.

I think both sides are playing chicken and Duren will ultimately end up signing for 4/177. If that's truly the offer I'm shocked he hasn't signed it yet. Will instantly be one of the worst deals in the league. 


Onto Holland, I'm not sure why you're listing him as a dream target. He's another athletic wing that can't shoot. He's made 86 threes in 2 seasons total with a career average of 25%.

Giving away our best 3pt shooter and productive C, for that guy....?

[mvossman]

At this point, if the target isn't a GUARD, I'm not sure it's worth talking about.

GUARDS.

I know this is what you mean, and Smitty has already made this point, but by guards what this team desperately needs is playmaking.  There are two rotational level players on this roster that can provide any level of playmaking, and neither is really a point guard.  This has been an issue with the roster for many years that was partially masked by Luka.  Since he left the offense has been a disaster.  I'm not sure any trade that sends out assets makes sense unless the player coming back can provide some level of playmaking.

[SleepingHero]

I know this is what you mean, and Smitty has already made this point, but by guards what this team desperately needs is playmaking.  There are two rotational level players on this roster that can provide any level of playmaking, and neither is really a point guard.  This has been an issue with the roster for many years that was partially masked by Luka.  Since he left the offense has been a disaster.  I'm not sure any trade that sends out assets makes sense unless the player coming back can provide some level of playmaking.

I wonder if the Pelicans are tired of the Dejounte Murray experiment? He has 1+1 left on his deal. Making around 33 mil each year. 

He is a dummy that always wants the ball in his hands but Kyrie can fit around that. He is a bigger guard at around 6'5, and is a two way player.

[loki]

I think both sides are playing chicken and Duren will ultimately end up signing for 4/177. If that's truly the offer I'm shocked he hasn't signed it yet. Will instantly be one of the worst deals in the league. 


Onto Holland, I'm not sure why you're listing him as a dream target. He's another athletic wing that can't shoot. He's made 86 threes in 2 seasons total with a career average of 25%.

Giving away our best 3pt shooter and productive C, for that guy....?

I'm glad to see Detroit playing hardball. No need to max Duren out. I still think there's a chance he eventually re-signs unless LA wants to do something dumb.

I've been advocating for a Ron Holland flyer as well. The Mavs have plenty of time to try to develop a guy like him. Holland still can't legally drink so I'm not convinced 25% is his peak. And if the shot ever does come along he'll be completely untouchable. If the Mavs see anything there at all, now is the opportunity.

[StrandedOnBeauboisHill]

I get the Holland doesn't look like the player we need but he's also like the exact sort of player that could potentially become the player we need and with the assets we have that if that's all our assets can pull then betting on development isn't a terrible path if we're maintaining youth and flexibility to pivot quickly.

I see it this way, let's assume they're viewing Morez as a center (please god be viewing Morez as a center....) and your front court is Coop with Morez/Lively. I've been saying the perfect 3 who's "available" is Peyton Watson but that's kind of pipe dream-y. But we need a good on ball defender who can space the floor, Watson is just that. Watson was absolutely not that going into last season and probably could have been had on the cheap if people were looking/offering. If you can't get Peyton Watson, you gotta do your best to find the next Peyton Watson, maybe that's Holland this year....

[SleepingHero]

@KeithSmithNBA
One note on potential Jalen Duren sign-and-trade scenarios:

If Duren is anywhere near his max amount on a new deal, Base Year Compensation will kick in as part of a S&T.

Keeping it simple, BYC limits Duren to counting at only 50% of his new salary on Detroit’s side of a deal. Counts at full salary for new team. Makes it far easier for a cap space team to acquire Duren vs an over-the-cap team.

[SleepingHero]

I'm pretty surprised DET isn't trying to get in on the BOS sweepstakes. Brown+Cunningham is a good duo

[Smitty]

@ShamsCharania
Just in: The Oklahoma City Thunder are trading sharpshooter Isaiah Joe to the Detroit Pistons for two future second-round picks, sources tell ESPN.


BOO!

[SleepingHero]

@ShamsCharania
Just in: The Oklahoma City Thunder are trading sharpshooter Isaiah Joe to the Detroit Pistons for two future second-round picks, sources tell ESPN.


BOO!

LOL only OKC can get away with getting assets for their salary dumps.

[HoosierDaddyKid]

LOL only OKC can get away with getting assets for their salary dumps.

Call it what you want, that's a shooter that Detroit needs. Great pickup.

[dirkfansince1998]

LOL only OKC can get away with getting assets for their salary dumps.

Teams aren't operating with the primary goal to hurt OKC. OKC isn't dumping bad players on bad contracts. Majority of teams around the league could use a player like Joe.
Just as an example. The Mavs are hoping to get something for Klay. At this point Joe is a better player on a better contract. Teams that are looking for shooting won't pick the worse option over Joe just because they don't want to help OKC.

[Mavs2021]

Teams aren't operating with the primary goal to hurt OKC. OKC isn't dumping bad players on bad contracts. Majority of teams around the league could use a player like Joe.
Just as an example. The Mavs are hoping to get something for Klay. At this point Joe is a better player on a better contract. Teams that are looking for shooting won't pick the worse option over Joe just because they don't want to help OKC.

Spurs series:

On/Off -12.0. Shot 35% from the field, 29% from 3pt range.

Nuggets series:

On/Off -1.0 Shot 42% from the field 33% from 3pt range.

The man is certified sniper. Maybe some GMs need to stop drinking the cool aid that every Thunder role player is the greatest thing since sliced bread and that OKC so desperately wants to keep a guy like Joe, but unfortunately the cap ramification force them to sell low on this shooting monster.

[Smitty]

Chris Haynes (@ChrisBHaynes)
Detroit Pistons are conveying that Jalen Duren will not be moved and are solely focused on coming to terms on an agreement to keep their All-Star center, league sources tell me.

[dirkfansince1998]

Spurs series:

On/Off -12.0. Shot 35% from the field, 29% from 3pt range.

Nuggets series:

On/Off -1.0 Shot 42% from the field 33% from 3pt range.

The man is certified sniper. Maybe some GMs need to stop drinking the cool aid that every Thunder role player is the greatest thing since sliced bread and that OKC so desperately wants to keep a guy like Joe, but unfortunately the cap ramification force them to sell low on this shooting monster.

Over 40% from three over the last four seasons on high volume. But sure. They will just dump him for nothing. And I guess in the next trade they will attach picks to Caruso's contract to get rid of him. Completly detached from reality.

[HoosierDaddyKid]

Isn't Detroit's timeline right now?

 I guess it could be looked at that way. But nobody expected them to win 60 games either with virtually a young roster. Similar to the Spurs, they're ahead of schedule, so they have an open window. I wouldn't expect them to compete for a title next year either. But depending on other moves, health, and some luck, I guess they could as I didn't expect the Knicks to win it this year.

[Mavs2021]

Over 40% from three over the last four seasons on high volume. But sure. They will just dump him for nothing. And I guess in the next trade they will attach picks to Caruso's contract to get rid of him. Completly detached from reality.

Great give him a regular season trophy. When it mattered he was a huge net negative, but I guess we only use stats, when they suit our agenda. Joe has one NBA skill and that is 3pt shooting. He shot barely above 30% in the two biggest play-off series last year. But let´s pretend this is a huge loss for the Thunder and that the apron repercussions should not factor into the conversation.

Career play-offs: 10 MPG, 4.4 PPG, 0.7 APG, 38% from three.
Career play-offs: 10 MPG, 4.2 PPG, 0.9 APG, 44% from three.

So if Jason Kidd  had told Hardy to never dribble a basketball, we could have gotten four 2nd round picks for him, since he makes half of Joe, plays the same shitty defense as Joe and only has one NBA skill: 3pt shooting. 

Now you will tell me the story of the elite floor spacer I. Joe and that Joe played all the meaningful minutes? Yes somehow only gets to 10 MPG and 38% 3pt shooting.  

Let´s take Luke Kennard instead. Same salary, better player, no apron trouble, yet the Hawks didn´t get two 2nd round picks.  They got one and had to take Gabe Vincent´s trash contract. So stop with this BS that Joe is some super talent. Presti is a great negotiator. That´s it.

Kennard is a FA, too. Let´s see how much he gets paid.