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(04-29-2026, 10:05 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: sam veceinie mock draft. What really hurts is seeing Memphis and Atlanta (New Orleans) moving up. Ouch.
Burries at 8. Mot saying I dislike him but for some reason I am having trouble getting excited about him being the pick.
Yessoufou at 30. I would be fine with this stab. Talent gets a little dicey at 30 though. More so if a few guys pull out.
Brazile with the second round picks.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7159791...eb-wilson/
Can't read. Which guard fell past 8? Brown?
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(04-29-2026, 10:05 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: sam veceinie mock draft. What really hurts is seeing Memphis and Atlanta (New Orleans) moving up. Ouch.
Burries at 8. Mot saying I dislike him but for some reason I am having trouble getting excited about him being the pick.
Yessoufou at 30. I would be fine with this stab. Talent gets a little dicey at 30 though. More so if a few guys pull out.
Brazile with the second round picks.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7159791...eb-wilson/
Burries looks like the low risk/low ceiling option among lottery guards. Not a franchise changing playmaker. Unlikely to be a bust. Burries is more of an off ball/secondary ballhandler type but he has no glaring weakness. Probably the only plus defender among them.
I guess most fans would prefer a primary ballhandler but all of them come with real question marks. Brown...injury history and efficiency. Acuff...size and defense. Philon...decision making as a sophomore. Wagler...athleticism. Flemings...3-point volume.
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I vote for the Mavs to move up into the top 4.
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(04-29-2026, 10:27 AM)mvossman Wrote: Can't read. Which guard fell past 8? Brown?
He has the guards ranked as ...
5 Wagler
6 Acuff
7 Flemings
8 Burries
[Mara]
10 Brown
[Lendeborg]
[Ament]
13 Philon
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04-29-2026, 11:10 AM
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(04-29-2026, 10:51 AM)F Gump Wrote: He has the guards ranked as ...
5 Wagler
6 Acuff
7 Flemings
8 Burries
[Mara]
10 Brown
[Lendeborg]
[Ament]
13 Philon
In his mock, Pacers lose their pick. So Wagler at 5 goes to the Clippers.
He has the Nets taking Acuff...which is fascinating. They took two point guards last draft. Both are bigger guards, but Acuff seems like a tricky fit there.
OKC leaves the first round wiht Nate Ament and Morez Johnson. Ouch.
Memphis leaves the draft with Caleb Wilson, Koa Peat and Allen Graves. Probably would not take all three but a nice little haul for the rebuilding Grizz.
Utah gets Dybansta at #1 and immediately moves into one of the promising future teams imo. Utah will immediately get on board against teams tanking in the future.
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If Dallas was picking #8 in that scenario, Burries would be the pick only if the Mavs could not manufacture two better picks in the first. OKC may not want two top-half first round contracts. Give them our #8 and our second-rounder. We get their #10 and #17.
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If Dallas was picking #8 in that scenario, Burries would be the pick only if the Mavs could not manufacture two better picks in the first. OKC may not want two top-half first round contracts. Give them our #8 and our second-rounder. We get their #10 and #17. Maybe throw a player in.
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(04-29-2026, 11:47 AM)Winter Wrote: If Dallas was picking #8 in that scenario, Burries would be the pick only if the Mavs could not manufacture two better picks in the first. OKC may not want two top-half first round contracts. Give them our #8 and our second-rounder. We get their #10 and #17.
Value wise this is probably off. Moving down only two spots isn't enough for another mid first. Maybe a late first or two seconds.
But talking about moving down. Would anyone do it for one of the Hornets picks (#14 or #18) if the Mavs get next years pick back in return?
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(04-29-2026, 10:46 AM)F Gump Wrote: I vote for the Mavs to move up into the top 4.
I keep coming back to, the next five years are screwed if we don't. I forget who it was, but someone said they were done with Mavs fandom if we didn't. I can't quit the Mavs under any circumstances (cf. the evil trade), but I get where he's coming from.
I'll say this - if the Mavs don't move up in this draft, that to me would be near-definitive proof that the lottery isn't rigged. If the league wanted the Mavs to have Flagg, they'd be morons to want Cooper to be alone on an island for years to come.
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(04-29-2026, 11:58 AM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Value wise this is probably off. Moving down only two spots isn't enough for another mid first. Maybe a late first or two seconds.
But talking about moving down. Would anyone do it for one of the Hornets picks (#14 or #18) if the Mavs get next years pick back in return?
Regarding the first line, he was including the #30, which should come close to balancing it out.
Regarding the second, I consider doing it for 14 but not for 18.
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(04-29-2026, 11:47 AM)Winter Wrote: If Dallas was picking #8 in that scenario, Burries would be the pick only if the Mavs could not manufacture two better picks in the first. OKC may not want two top-half first round contracts. Give them our #8 and our second-rounder. We get their #10 and #17.
If I like the medicals I pull the trigger on Brown at 8.
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04-29-2026, 12:29 PM
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(04-29-2026, 11:58 AM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Value wise this is probably off. Moving down only two spots isn't enough for another mid first. Maybe a late first or two seconds.
But talking about moving down. Would anyone do it for one of the Hornets picks (#14 or #18) if the Mavs get next years pick back in return?
I think the OKC picks are 12 and 17, which is more reasonable and a tough call.
If the new GM wants to go full tear down, the Hornets trade would make sense.
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(04-29-2026, 12:27 PM)mvossman Wrote: If I like the medicals I pull the trigger on Brown at 8.
I don't disagree, but back problems scare me. I have visions of MPJ.
I'd want an independent assessment before I invested.
Also, given the team's status over the last two seasons, I have a real sore spot for potential time lost to injury.
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(04-29-2026, 01:19 PM)michaeltex Wrote: I don't disagree, but back problems scare me. I have visions of MPJ.
I'd want an independent assessment before I invested.
Also, given the team's status over the last two seasons, I have a real sore spot for potential time lost to injury.
The easy solution is to money-whip Casey into coming back even before settling our dubious GM search. If Casey gives his thumbs-up, then I might talk myself into Brown. If Casey says no, then hard pass.
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04-29-2026, 01:28 PM
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(04-29-2026, 12:26 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: Regarding the first line, he was including the #30, which should come close to balancing it out.
Regarding the second, I consider doing it for 14 but not for 18.
I considered #30 (and would likely do it), but any of the above combinations would be of interest. This would of course depend on the the new FO sees certain players, and how they show up in the combines and interviews.
In the remark by mvossman about Brown, would you be happier with Brown or Burries if both were available and healthy?
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(04-29-2026, 01:28 PM)Winter Wrote: I considered #30 (and would likely do it), but any of the above combinations would be of interest. This would of course depend on the the new FO sees certain players, and how they show up in the combines and interviews.
In the remark by mvossman about Brown, would you be happier with Brown or Burries if both were available and healthy?
I have been more than iffy on Brown the past several months, but if he can be coached out of his hotdog game, and if he has some defensive potential, and if he gets full clearance, I'd be content with either him or Burries.
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(04-29-2026, 01:28 PM)Winter Wrote: I considered #30 (and would likely do it), but any of the above combinations would be of interest. This would of course depend on the the new FO sees certain players, and how they show up in the combines and interviews.
In the remark by mvossman about Brown, would you be happier with Brown or Burries if both were available and healthy?
Its a good question. I lean towards Brown due to upside, but if Burries turns into Derrick White I would be more than happy. There is a legit possibility that one of the other three guards are available. The Ringer just mocked Wagler to Mavs at 8 with somebody taking a flyer on Brown. I think that could happen.
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I think I'm on an island here, but if the Mavs pick #8 I'm all out praying Flemmings falls that far.
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Different angle on value: How far UP (if at all) could you trade by combining 8 and 30? Can you get to 7? 6? 5?
Probably case by case, depending on which teams own those picks and what they're looking to achieve, but "value chart" wise, what's the precedent?
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(04-29-2026, 01:51 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: I think I'm on an island here, but if the Mavs pick #8 I'm all out praying Flemmings falls that far.
Oh, Flemings would be fantastic. But there would have to be a major headscratch reach for him to fall to 8th.
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