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"the future MBT needs to avoid betting the farm on another KP-like trade just because Coop has so much potential" --- Everyone agrees that the Mavs need to avoid another KP mistake.
But the problem/reality is that a KP-like trade is also the very thing they should pursue IF they could get get the right "KP" (young, all-star, all-NBA potential, seems to perfectly complement the star you have and fill major needs, wants out of his team). Find the young running mate. Lock him in. Grow together.
Hopefully that guy will be the one they pick in the draft. But however they get someone, it's gonna be uncertain. No guarantees.
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(8 hours ago)F Gump Wrote: "somehow you are already thinking of the Mavs as a potential contender." --- You are creating a strawman. No one is saying they will be an instant contender. Everyone is saying they have the potential to win games and start to be a factor in the league, using the talent they already have, plus what they can acquire. So they need to try to win. Let it go where it goes.
And trying to win scares you. ~shrug~ It doesn't scare me. I welcome it. Winning needs to be the goal. Go for it.
There's nothing gained in losing. Obviously getting to where they want to go, both with new talent, old talent, trades, development, and team play, it won't all happen on day one, but who doesn't know that?
Takes some real audacity to accuse me of using strawmans considering that your attempts to refute my case are based around the narrative that I don't want the Mavs to win. But to be fair I kinda missed this. Hard to find people that actually offer contra in discussions like this. Probably too abstract and theoretical for most people.
Maybe it's me missing the conversations during the season but a lot of this feels like copium because reality isn't nearly as promising as you portray it. Flagg, this years pick that basically has to be a star, maybe healthy Kyrie and the rest of the vets compared to the top teams in the league...just not going to happen. The GM that can build upon a foundation like this and build a contender without accumulating more assets doesn't exist.
I would love to share your optimism but I just don't see where the improvement is coming from. Trades and new talent? You need assets to make that happen. Or is this supposed to turn into plan powder again? Wait for the magical summer where capspace is going to solve the Mavs issues. Sorry. Been there done that. Not interested.
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"I just don't see where the improvement is coming from. Trades and new talent? You need assets to make that happen."
I think they are better than a 25-win team, the instant they stop tanking. I don't think the talent cupboard is bare (although players who are tanking look lousier than they are).
The potential improvement comes from "we are winning" mindset (rather than we are tanking), plus
1 addition of a top-10 draft pick who could be really good,
2 perhaps the addition of a MLE talent, and/or TPE addition,
3 healthy players instead of players sitting a week for a hangnail,
4 roster that might be tweaked to be better (via trade) in needed areas, and
5 the growth of CF (which I think will be another huge step upwards).
How much better does all that make them? Impossible to say. But from what I see in the NBA, if you already have a good talent base, it doesn't take a complete addition of a whole roster of new talent to make a team way better. Just one or two, when it's the right one, makes a massive upgrade because of the multiplier on the play of the other talent already there.
I also think that CF alone (and his presence is certain) will have a HUGE impact on improvement of the team. He will be way way better. That will have a major trickle-down effect on everyone. Wait n see. (Just give me one more player with similar upside trajectory, which I hope they get via the lottery.)
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(7 hours ago)Chicagojk Wrote: The early entries
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/2026-...larations/
Quaintance and Arenas could have benefited from another year in college. Really wonder if Quaintance has some kind of guarantee from a team in the lottery.
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(8 hours ago)F Gump Wrote: And trying to win scares you. ~shrug~ It doesn't scare me. I welcome it. Winning needs to be the goal. Go for it.
This statement can easily be construed as an argument for spending cap/assets on win now players instead of focusing on long term improvement. I think that would be a mistake.
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