Trade & FA 2025-26: Free Agency Starts 5pm CST/6pm EST

[mvossman]

Let Dumont pay the taxes for his mistakes, i don't care.

It's better street clothes than a crap return, our window is closed for next 3/4 years so who cares.

Except maybe Dumont doesn't want to pay the tax (especially after Nico gifted him with the repeater tax via the stupid Grimes trade) and he burns assets to get under it.  Its more than just paying tax, if they shed enough cap they can make room for the full MLE.  That has value.  They signed Naji to under the full MLE and he is probably worth a first now.

I don't get this mindset that it will take a few years to rebuild so we might as well ride it out with AD.  After this upcoming draft (that will probably be improved by trading AD) the Mavs won't get a lot of good assets.  The future picks will probably not be good due to swaps and when they do start owning their own picks Flagg will in his prime.  Do we expect those to be any good?  We are talking about a good young player who might be worth a non lottery first, a decent first round pick (right on the edge of the lottery) and massive salary relief that could arguably be valued as a late first.  It would be a disappointing haul for AD (especially given what we paid for him) but it would literally jump start the rebuild by 3 years compared to the alternative.

[F Gump]

CJ would likely go to Dallas in this deal, if we're looping in AD? This works on the trade machine, but I'm sure there are plenty of other ways to go...

Hawks: Davis, Martin
Wizards: Young
Mavs: McCollum (expiring), Coulibaly, Risacher, Pick(s)

That set of players to Dallas is so meh, and DAL taking back more players than they send causes a big issue (Mavs are already needing more open spots). 

The deal would have to include NO pick and another FRP. Else, why bother? I think I'd rather keep AD, and work to maximize the Mavs pick.

[Winter]

@TheSteinLine
The Wizards have emerged as a legitimate potential trade destination for Atlanta's Trae Young, @TheSteinLine has learned, in a deal construction centered around CJ McCollum's expiring contract.

I'm just kind of waiting for Dan to post......

Anyone know any jokes?

[mvossman]

@TheSteinLine
The Wizards have emerged as a legitimate potential trade destination for Atlanta's Trae Young, @TheSteinLine has learned, in a deal construction centered around CJ McCollum's expiring contract.

This is excellent news and make sense for the Wizards (buy low and rebuild value).  Now get everything you can from Atlanta.

[RoyTarpleysGhost]

Shams confirming

[Charania] Just in: Atlanta Hawks All-Star Trae Young and his agents, Aaron Mintz, Drew Morrison and Austin Brown, are working with the franchise on a trade, sources tell ESPN. Young's reps and the Hawks have started collaborative talks over the last week on finding a resolution.

[Chicagojk]

First, props to Stein.    Whether it is accurate is tbd, but Stein is sort of an independent media guy now and it feels like he is still one of the most trustworthy and relevant guys without the big media behind him.   

If accurate, it shows that the discussions with Dallas is real, I think.   Means they were probably closer to a deal than some were thinking.  I don't think they move Trae unless they had another deal lined up.  Maybe it is Davis or maybe it is something else.  I don't think they would move Trae and call it a day though.

Edit---one thing with this being in the works and Hawks saying Rishacher not being traded it makes you wonder if he is not included in the most recent conversations.

[mvossman]

First, props to Stein.    Whether it is accurate is tbd, but Stein is sort of an independent media guy now and it feels like he is still one of the most trustworthy and relevant guys without the big media behind him.   

If accurate, it shows that the discussions with Dallas is real, I think.   Means they were probably closer to a deal than some were thinking.  I don't think they move Trae unless they had another deal lined up.  Maybe it is Davis or maybe it is something else.  I don't think they would move Trae and call it a day though.

Agreed.  And there has been no smoke on any other trade, right?  AD might be moving sooner than we thought.

[Chicagojk]

I don't really know where I fall on the trade AD thing yet.

Thinking about the Hawks though.  If Trae is out and lets say they wind up with AD, CJ and Kispert.     KP goes out.   Rishacher too and a pick.   Is Newell too much then?    

Seems like Newell would be the bargaining spot...either that or a second first round pick (with the NO pick not being on the table)

[RoyTarpleysGhost]

Good point. Marc Stein seems like our insider for a long time now. I just signed up for his Substack.

[cow]

Some of these trade idea are depressing. That's not to say they aren't realistic, but I guess I'm in the camp that overvalues day-to-Davis' value. I wonder what extending him look like?

[RoyTarpleysGhost]

I would take Risacher and the 2027 1st rd pick and expiring salaries.

***NOP will receive the more favorable of its 2027 1st round pick and MIL's 2027 1st round pick and ATL will receive the less favorable of the two protected for selections 1-4

[FireNicoHarrison]

Except maybe Dumont doesn't want to pay the tax (especially after Nico gifted him with the repeater tax via the stupid Grimes trade) and he burns assets to get under it.  Its more than just paying tax, if they shed enough cap they can make room for the full MLE.  That has value.  They signed Naji to under the full MLE and he is probably worth a first now.

I don't get this mindset that it will take a few years to rebuild so we might as well ride it out with AD.  After this upcoming draft (that will probably be improved by trading AD) the Mavs won't get a lot of good assets.  The future picks will probably not be good due to swaps and when they do start owning their own picks Flagg will in his prime.  Do we expect those to be any good?  We are talking about a good young player who might be worth a non lottery first, a decent first round pick (right on the edge of the lottery) and massive salary relief that could arguably be valued as a late first.  It would be a disappointing haul for AD (especially given what we paid for him) but it would literally jump start the rebuild by 3 years compared to the alternative.

Dumont can't go cheap after what he did with Luka and after he told when Harrison was fired. 
This fanbase have no mercy for him.

I'm sorry but if no good offers will be on the table it's better to keep street clothes. Dump him is stupid.

If Flagg will become a real superstar then a lot of guys will want to come here. 

Honestly i think that we will trade AD high at the TDL, those rumors are just smokescreen.
He has value. Trust me.

[Winter]

I would take Risacher and the 2027 1st rd pick and expiring salaries.

***NOP will receive the more favorable of its 2027 1st round pick and MIL's 2027 1st round pick and ATL will receive the less favorable of the two protected for selections 1-4

That wouldn't surprise me, and I suspect that's close to the value. I would be pleasently surpised if there were more than one pick in any year for the Mavs... but I don't expect it.

[mvossman]

Some of these trade idea are depressing.  That's not to say they aren't realistic, but I guess I'm in the camp that overvalues day-to-Davis' value.  I wonder what extending him look like?

Durant got 2 for 90 and Butler got 2 for 110.  That is probably his market.  You still want to hold onto AD?

[Mavs2021]

Good point.  Marc Stein seems like our insider for a long time now.  I just signed up for his Substack.

He obviously is. Dirk/Nash made him. Stein is a Maverick. I was wondering what kind of Mavs angle he´s playing with that Wizards leak.

Suddenly I read: "the Wizards view Young as a negative asset." They would need draft compensation.

Translation: You are giving up that 1st round pick for Young, whether it´s to the Mavs or somebody else, so stop posturing you cheap mofos and give the Mavs that additional 1st round pick already.

[RoyTarpleysGhost]

[Stein] The Atlanta Hawks would be sending the Washington Wizards— or any team that trades for Trae Young— draft capital in return for taking on Young’s contract that has a $49M player option for the 2026-27 season.

Sources tell The Stein Line that the Wizards have been actively exploring their trade options with McCollum, who is playing out the final year of his current contract at $30.7 million after Washington acquired the veteran guard in the offseason in a deal that sent Jordan Poole to the Pelicans.

More salary would have to be added by Washington to make the salary cap math work in a trade for Young — and it's believed that the Hawks would also have to send the Wizards draft capital to convince them to absorb Young's contract — but the prospect of Atlanta trading its most popular player is only growing as the Feb. 5 trade deadline nears.

Young is earning $46 million this season and holds a $49 million player option for the 2026-27 season that he is increasingly expected to exercise given the uncertain free agent market expected to greet him this summer.

[omahen]

I never thought that Young with only one year remaining on his deal would need draft compensation attached to trade. Young has his flaws, but is still a better player than McCollum, meaning Young will make Washington better. Only goal for Washington this season is to suck as much as possible. Unless the plan is to sit Young for rest of the season.

[Chicagojk]

I would take Risacher and the 2027 1st rd pick and expiring salaries.

***NOP will receive the more favorable of its 2027 1st round pick and MIL's 2027 1st round pick and ATL will receive the less favorable of the two protected for selections 1-4

With the Hawks coming out saying Rishacher would not be moved while all this is going on behind the scenes and Rich Paul liking a quote with Newell, KP and Kennard (I think a future first too) makes me feel Risacher will not be involved.   It seems light for the Mavs.   Although, it certainly appears the deal may be a little light.

[omahen]

With the Hawks coming out saying Rishacher would not be moved while all this is going on behind the scenes and Rich Paul liking a quote with Newell, KP and Kennard (I think a future first too) makes me feel Risacher will not be involved.   It seems light for the Mavs.   Although, it certainly appears the deal may be a little light.

Looking from another perspective. Trae is an elite offensive player with zero defense. He has one year left on his deal. AD is a very good two-way player, but often injured. He has two years left on his deal at higher numbers than Trae. One could say that both players have their flaws. If one year of Trae requires asset to be moved, I think it can be expected that AD can't have a huge market value.

[omahen]

Interesting info from Stein. Schlenk, who traded for Young in the first place (draft night trade involving Luka) is now working for Wizards.