12-31-2025, 03:12 PM
No more bargain with the Mavs, that time is over.
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12-31-2025, 03:12 PM
No more bargain with the Mavs, that time is over.
12-31-2025, 04:54 PM
Well AD is playing tomorrow. It looks like his minute limit is over 30 per Kidd.
Sadly looks like the healthy Cavs are getting their crap together. Was hoping they´d lose to Spurs and Wolves to drop to 17-18. Now it will be 19-16 and they are probably favourites to finish at least 4th in the East. Not sure whether that helps move the needle in balancing possibly trades out, but the value of that pick is down.
On the other hand Hawks immediately look awesome with KP back, so maybe that will convince the Hawks to part ways with picks more easily and further strengthen their new regular rotation by replacing Risacher with AD. I think we should be cheering for Hawks wins at this point, cause they need to convince themselves, that it is win now time and give up some picks for it.
12-31-2025, 04:59 PM
I don't know for who or what, but I am quite confident the Minny GM is going to make a substantial move for another guard. They need one. Not sure if DLO constitutes substantial though
(12-31-2025, 03:03 PM)loki Wrote: I haven't heard any reporting on picks, but I suspect they aren't offering any right now based on wanting him "at a bargain". The Mavs are pushing for the most valuable pick. Could they meet in the middle somewhere? Possibly, if they can find a taker for Young. I suspect this trade is being held up until they find a 3rd team to take Young. If I’m the Mavs, I tell them we’ll take back Trae if you give us the NOP pick. Not my money. Sit him on the bench for all I care.
12-31-2025, 05:36 PM
(12-31-2025, 04:55 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: Sadly looks like the healthy Cavs are getting their crap together. Was hoping they´d lose to Spurs and Wolves to drop to 17-18. Now it will be 19-16 and they are probably favourites to finish at least 4th in the East. Not sure whether that helps move the needle in balancing possibly trades out, but the value of that pick is down. Man I know I’m just box score watching but taking salary into consideration I might rather have Newell than Risacher.
12-31-2025, 05:47 PM
12-31-2025, 05:48 PM
(12-31-2025, 05:14 PM)Dirknows Wrote: I suspect this trade is being held up until they find a 3rd team to take Young. If I’m the Mavs, I tell them we’ll take back Trae if you give us the NOP pick. Not my money. Sit him on the bench for all I care. If I'm Atlanta I'd only give up the NOP pick if it's protected. Dumping Trae isn't worth missing out on Peterson/Dybantsa/Boozer.
12-31-2025, 09:06 PM
(12-31-2025, 02:58 PM)Dirknows Wrote: If they somehow manage to get the Pelicans 2026 pick that would certainly be the only pick they get. The NO pick, while certainly desirable, is being way over-valued because of the story of how ATL got a much better reward for a pick swap than they should have. But in reality, once that pick was traded, NO was no longer going to be tanking, making it more likely to land at 8-10-worse simply because NO will play their butts off all season (especially at the end when other teams are working hard to go backwards). So it's probably still going to be a good pick -- but not a great one. But assuming ATL is intent on keeping their top players like Johnson and Daniels to pair with AD, that one good pick is the ONLY strong asset ATL has to offer. The Mavs can't accept less. And in general, I don't think a player of the caliber of AD - even though he has flaws (but what player doesn't) - is going to be made available for a single pick and no real strong assets. I observe that ORL paid FIVE picks (two are swaps), with several of them being unprotected, to get Desmond Bane. BANE. Who has never been on any All-NBA, All-Defense, or All Star teams, and whose contract is MASSIVE for who he is as a player (it averages about $42M per for 4 seasons). That makes me think DAL is already asking for 2 picks for AD (with the NO pick being one of them), and with Risacher as part of the salary filler; while ATL is demanding that DAL takes Trae as the salary filler in return and wants to give up lesser picks and player. IMO that's where the deal lies.
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01-01-2026, 01:44 AM
People on here are acting like the New Orleans pick = Cooper Flagg 2.0. This forum has a crazy amount of people that get drunk on trade possibilities. LOL.
Is F Gump the only reasonable human being in this discussion?
01-01-2026, 03:53 AM
Klay+Gaf for kuminga+2029 pick is ok
Street clothes is another situation... At least 1 prospect and 2 picks or 3 picks. (01-01-2026, 01:44 AM)windjc Wrote: People on here are acting like the New Orleans pick = Cooper Flagg 2.0. This forum has a crazy amount of people that get drunk on trade possibilities. LOL. Since when is F Gump a human being? :p Just kidding, for me there’s kind of a sense of urgency because Flagg is still so young, but already so good and the upcoming draft being great talent wise. So that it is kind of our best shot to get young and highly talented players on a similar timeline as Flagg. In a couple of years he will be too good, so that our draft picks will be mediocre, and additionally we won’t have the 3 to 4 years of waiting that great talents need to become allstars. So we could basically waste his 5 rookie contract years in no man‘s land. So getting two shots in this year‘s lottery - two shots to jump in the top 4 and two shots to pick a future allstar - is very sexy, isn’t it?
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01-01-2026, 11:14 AM
(01-01-2026, 07:11 AM)Knutsen Wrote: Since when is F Gump a human being? :p Both things are true. NOP pick value, atm, is dependent on your situation. I don't think a team like Spurs for example care that much to trade for it. They have their own young guys, same for OKC. Regarding this trade, I don't see it as valuable as folks think it is for Atlanta. First they absolutely suck in drafting. Their best 2 picks this century are probably Harford and Trae. Also they are in no man's land atm, they aren't rebuilding nor competing, and it has been the case for years. They had 5 top 10 picks within the past 8 years alone. The 8 years mark is when they started rebuilding, almost the same time as the Mavs during their post Dirk era. They only made it to playoffs 3 times, and only once out of first round. At some point you need to show some competitiveness, even as a pretender. Regarding the Mavs, it is as you explained. The Mavs best bet for success long is getting Flagg a young running mate. We have our puck this season but zero control over next 4 years. Ideally you should get one next draft, and since it is widely hyped one it is worth a shot to get 2 picks instead of one. Risasher could also be worth the punt, but so far he is a bust that can't be the main return of the trade. This should be the appeal of the trade for both sides. The pick is worth more for a Mavs with Cooper Flagg than a Hawks team in need of some positive results. However, fear is the another factor. Hawks are probably afraid they might be giving Boozer or Dybantsa for an old AD, Mavs probably afraid of giving AD for just a chance to draft Karim Lopez. And both will try to sway the trade to their side out of fear, which could make a no trade at the end.
01-01-2026, 11:21 AM
Atlanta gifted us Luka, they are our friends.
01-01-2026, 03:00 PM
[Haynes] The Atlanta Hawks are the frontrunners to land Anthony Davis.
Source: https://siriusxm.com/player/channel-line...ium=shared Chris Haynes, NBA insider for NBA on Prime, just reported this on SiriusXM. He reported that at this juncture, the Atlanta Hawks appear to be the frontrunners to land Anthony Davis. He said they have the easiest trade package and have the right level of desperation to offer a close-to-value trade package for Davis and offer him an extension in the Summer. He also reiterated that Trae Young would not be involved in a trade package for Anthony Davis. He also said the Raptors are a team that have also continued checking in on Davis.
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01-01-2026, 03:03 PM
(This post was last modified: 01-01-2026, 03:03 PM by RoyTarpleysGhost.)
[Haynes] Several of the mid-to-lower tier teams in the 4th-11th spots in the Eastern Conference do not ‘fear’ the Knicks and Pistons and will look to be buyers with the belief they can make the NBA Finals. The Hawks specifically view a Porzingis for Anthony Davis swap as a major upgrade.
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01-01-2026, 03:06 PM
[Amick] The Mavericks do have interest in Kuminga, his salary ($22.5m) comes well short of Davis ($54m). It would thus require the inclusion of another big contract — i.e., Green ($25.8m)… it should be noted that the Mavericks called Golden State about the Davis trade — and not the other way around.
01-01-2026, 03:25 PM
(01-01-2026, 03:06 PM)RoyTarpleysGhost Wrote: [Amick] The Mavericks do have interest in Kuminga, his salary ($22.5m) comes well short of Davis ($54m). It would thus require the inclusion of another big contract — i.e., Green ($25.8m)… it should be noted that the Mavericks called Golden State about the Davis trade — and not the other way around. Hopefully this is to generate a bigger market. Not a fan of Kuminga and greatly prefer the Atlanta options.
01-01-2026, 03:50 PM
Kuminga+Green package is trash. It's a joke.
01-01-2026, 03:55 PM
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(01-01-2026, 03:50 PM)FireNicoHarrison Wrote: Kuminga+Green package is trash. It's a joke. The Mavs dont want Green. And GS doesn't want to trade him. I posted it because apparently the Mavs would have some interest in Kuminga as part of the salary matching. That's the news. (like DanS was suggesting) They'd need a third team to get involved. Doesn't seem like there is much traction there. |
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