Luka Dealt to Lakers: Nico Harrison is a Basketball Terrorist

[Jym]

[SkenfromLMF]

That is some kind of Sandy

[F Gump]

All the conspiracy theories about what's going on with the Mavs are based on the premise that Nico can't be that stupid. But when I look at his decisions made before and after Lindsey being here (a too-brief interlude in which the roster-building moves were very smart) and it's all mediocre-to-awful.

I end up thinking this is just a Hanlon's Razor situation, which says:
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.”

Yep, Nico is that stupid. And he needs to go asap.

[ThisIStheYear]

And that very well could end up being the case. I don't think they move the team.

If I'm wrong I'll own it. No biggie there. The only other real alternative is that Nico is either incompetent or just got so far in his bubble of thinking he couldn't get out if it.

They’re not moving. Who the hell would want this POS franchise?  An expansion team is far superior at this point. The Mavs are just a farm team for the Hornets, Thunder, Nets, and Spurs for the foreseeable future.

[audiosway]

All the conspiracy theories about what's going on with the Mavs are based on the premise that Nico can't be that stupid. But when I look at his decisions made before and after Lindsey being here (a too-brief interlude in which the roster-building moves were very smart) and it's all mediocre-to-awful.

I end up thinking this is just a Hanlon's Razor situation, which says:
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.”

Yep, Nico is that stupid. And he needs to go asap.

That's a really good point. It reminds me of another I heard recently. 

"Some people are smart enough to think they are right but not smart enough to know they are wrong."

It could honestly just be that simple. No conspiracy or anything. He's good at relationships but bad at being a GM. It's just time to go get a Lindsay or Presti type.

Looking at the overall situation of the trades of Luka and Grimes followed by the mishandling of PR every step of the way since tells me that Nico just is bad at his job. Really bad. I had previously falsely applied things being done (trade for PJ and Gaff) to Nico. That was obviously wrong. As soon as Lindsay left the most ridiculous things started happening in quick succession.

If a trade is so bad and impossible to imagine that reporters have to put out a disclaimer that they weren't hacked it's probably a historically stupid deal.

They still have a chance to have a really good team for the next 2-4 years. But, the fix needs to start right now. Hire a new training staff. Go get the 2nd best because you fired the best. Go get a new GM that is in the Presti/Lindsay mold. Lose as many games as you can the rest of the year and scout the heck out of the upcoming draft.

[audiosway]

They’re not moving. Who the hell would want this POS franchise?  An expansion team is far superior at this point. The Mavs are just a farm team for the Hornets, Thunder, Nets, and Spurs for the foreseeable future.

I was saying I DON'T think they move. Ball was talking about my theory of Kyrie and Klay wanting to team up with AD and KD.

[FireNicoHarrison]

I was saying I DON'T think they move. Ball was talking about my theory of Kyrie and Klay wanting to team up with AD and KD.

Fake speculations.

Kyrie loves Luka and in other hands i don't know how he likes Klay because i remember entire games without pass him the ball.

I'm sorry but you are just trying to create stories based on nothing.

And about Harrison, probably he is not the smarter GM in the world but trade your best player with your buddy is over stupidity. It's collusion.
No cospiration theory, just a non-sports practice. Fraud.

[cow]

Klay wouldn't have come to Dallas without Luka being here and there is no way he or anyone else plotted for Luka to get traded.

[david75090]

My money's on Snidely Whiplash. He already has Nell Finwick tied to the track.

[The Jom]

Checking on the well-being of our generational player does not make you a Lakers fan.  Have you bought a purple and gold bomber jacket or signed up as a member of a Lakers message board?  Did Nico trade you for Jack Nicholson?  

You're a hurt Mavs fan in a state of melancholy.  No shame in that.  My personal theory is that the blues don't make you sad or happy, but simply take you to the exact state of mind you're in, then lift you back up.  That process is real, but it can't be rushed or faked.  

Personally, I was making progress, sort of proud of myself, then the Kyrie injury knocked me back down a bit.  While Kyrie lost his "hermano," he's being paid $43M to rehab for a year, so it's unreasonable for me, a 77 year old man on Social Security and a small pension, to overreact.  

For me, the Mavsboard, has assumed the role of a mental health professional, a talk therapist, even a guidance counselor.  Dark thoughts are conveyed by fingers typing on a keyboard and they seem to dissipate.  Is that what is meant by venting?  And, no, you're not "dirty."

wab

This board and you, wab, in particular, are awesome. But I think this post is wrong in my case. I believe I’m actually on the verge of a conversion here. I don’t just seem to like the Lakers now, in spite of myself. I also seem to hate the Mavs organization. Not the players. But the organization. Whomever it is I can blame for deciding to donate $100 million to the Trump campaign and not pay Luka.

[audiosway]

Fake speculations.

Kyrie loves Luka and in other hands i don't know how he likes Klay because i remember entire games without pass him the ball.

I'm sorry but you are just trying to create stories based on nothing.

And about Harrison, probably he is not the smarter GM in the world but trade your best player with your buddy is over stupidity. It's collusion.
No cospiration theory, just a non-sports practice. Fraud.

Yeah. I know. I'm always just making up fake speculation...

It's not like Kyrie ever publicly said this 3 weeks ago or anything.

https://www.nbcsportsboston.com/nba/bost...superteam/

"We were discussing in 2018, just for everybody at home that's watching, because I know all of these words are going to be looked at."

"But yeah, in 2018, it was a dream for Me (Kyrie), AD, KD to be on one team and still keep JT and let him grow and then see how it goes. But back then, those young guys weren't ready to be in trade rumors, man. Our locker room splintered after that, once they found out. It wasn't [Jaylen Brown] or JT, but our locker room splintered once they started figuring out the trade rumors, and our season started going in a whole different way."

"We all had that vision to play together in Boston," Irving added. “Danny Ainge had a large responsibility in that, trying to make it happen, make sure I stayed in Boston. But we had some young pieces in JT and JB and if we would have traded either one of them, who knows if they win a championship. So the franchise had to do what was best for them, and I had to do what was best for me"

But, don't mind me. I'm just making fake speculation. It's not like it's the first time he has tried to get some young stud players traded or anything. Now if I remember things correctly didn't KD force his way to Brooklyn after Kyrie got traded there? Here we are yet again.

I wonder if Luka would be depressed and deeply shocked by hearing that Kyrie said this to the media right after Luka was traded?

Did any of you know this was said on February 5th by Kyrie?

I bet you are fun at parties.

[Jym]

This board and you, wab, in particular, are awesome. But I think this post is wrong in my case. I believe I’m actually on the verge of a conversion here. I don’t just seem to like the Lakers now, in spite of myself. I also seem to hate the Mavs organization. Not the players. But the organization. Whomever it is I can blame for deciding to donate $100 million to the Trump campaign and not pay Luka.

this board and The Locked On Mavericks guys are the only thing tethering me to the Mavs at the moment and I can already feel those connections failing since it's just dwelling in pain. 
my fandom has been shattered and I don't know what they could do to fix that. Even Nico stepping down would do nothing for me

[cow]

this board and The Locked On Mavericks guys are the only thing tethering me to the Mavs at the moment and I can already feel those connections failing since it's just dwelling in pain. 
my fandom has been shattered and I don't know what they could do to fix that. Even Nico stepping down would do nothing for me

Take a break and come back with fresh eyes and ears.  The season is over anyway so there is no better time to stop paying attention.

[WildArkieBoy]

This board and you, wab, in particular, are awesome. But I think this post is wrong in my case. I believe I’m actually on the verge of a conversion here. I don’t just seem to like the Lakers now, in spite of myself. I also seem to hate the Mavs organization. Not the players. But the organization. Whomever it is I can blame for deciding to donate $100 million to the Trump campaign and not pay Luka.

To be honest, I'm in flux with my viewpoint on all this changing, morphing by the day. 
I've had to distinguish between "organizations" and "teams."  Organizations care about cha-ching, the greenbacks rolling in, whether from parking, a pint of Guiness sold or ticket packages, while teams focus on winning.
Initially, Cuban blurred the difference, buying the team as a fan, but he's turned into a minority shareholder shouting at "rowdy" fans, telling them to "sit the f*** down and shut the f*** up."  Meet Mark Adelson.
My position on this has morphed into "rewarding loyalty with loyalty."  Since Luka's intention was to be a Mavs "lifer," my response is to be a Luka "lifer."  Just as I've watched every Mavs game since Nellie flew to Wurzburg to drink beer with Dirk's dad, I'll watch every Luka game whether his dad is in the stands or not. 
One more thing:  Luka doesn't owe me 21 or 22 years of NBA ball.  If he wants to take the Barry Sanders route, retiring early with his family on a farm in Slovenia, before his body is crippled with arthritis, more power to him and his. 

wab

[audiosway]

To be honest, I'm in flux with my viewpoint on all this changing, morphing by the day. 
I've had to distinguish between "organizations" and "teams."  Organizations care about cha-ching, the greenbacks rolling in, whether from parking, a pint of Guiness sold or ticket packages, while teams focus on winning.
Initially, Cuban blurred the difference, buying the team as a fan, but he's turned into a minority shareholder shouting at "rowdy" fans, telling them to "sit the f*** down and shut the f*** up."  Meet Mark Adelson.
My position on this has morphed into "rewarding loyalty with loyalty."  Since Luka's intention was to be a Mavs "lifer," my response is to be a Luka "lifer."  Just as I've watched every Mavs game since Nellie flew to Wurzburg to drink beer with Dirk's dad, I'll watch every Luka game whether his dad is in the stands or not. 
One more thing:  Luka doesn't owe me 21 or 22 years of NBA ball.  If he wants to take the Barry Sanders route, retiring early with his family on a farm in Slovenia, before his body is crippled with arthritis, more power to him and his. 

wab

Nailed it. I've thought long and hard about it. I'm following Luka to LA. I live just north of San Francisco anyway. I get all of the LA games. I left Dallas 15 years ago and stayed a Mavs fan due to Dirk. Once Dirk retired it was Luka. Now there is nothing tying me to the Mavs anymore with him gone. I tried to get on board with it after the trade but I just can't. I would rather watch Luka faults and all.

I had really started to like Kyrie too. But, after finding that article of him coming out right after the trade confirming exactly what I was thinking I can't get on board with that. 

If Luka wants to retire at 30 so be it. I'm going to enjoy watching him in the meantime. My big mistake in all of this was thinking that there must be something about Luka that we didn't know. (Outside of the conditioning and diet stuff) Little did I know Kyrie wanted his buddy squad.

I hope Luka goes scorched earth on the NBA. You guys are awesome. Just know that if come on here to chat it's because of all of you. It will have nothing to do with the Mavs Organization.

[FireNicoHarrison]

Yeah. I know. I'm always just making up fake speculation...

It's not like Kyrie ever publicly said this 3 weeks ago or anything.

https://www.nbcsportsboston.com/nba/bost...superteam/

Yes, Kyrie talked about 2018.
If you think he wants the same after 7 years then you understimate Kyrie intelligence.

There are more possibilities than Kyrie will joint to the Lakers than he stabbed Luka last month.

It's a complete no sense, you are just try to find alternative reality to add some faults in Irving.
He was the closest teammates to Luka and one of the beloved guys in NBA. Stop throw **** on him.

And like someone said Luka was the reason for Klay to take a paycut and sign here.

The theory about a bunch of old injury prone granny is just an insult to human intelligence.

Durant would be the lifesaver for Harrison next summer.
I hope it's all dead right now.

[audiosway]

Yes, Kyrie talked about 2018.
If you think he wants the same after 7 years then you understimate Kyrie intelligence.

There are more possibilities than Kyrie will joint to the Lakers than he stabbed Luka last month.

It's a complete no sense, you are just try to find alternative reality to add some faults in Irving.
He was the closest teammates to Luka and one of the beloved guys in NBA. Stop throw shit on him.

And like someone said Luka was the reason for Klay to take a paycut and sign here.

The theory about a bunch of old injury prone granny is just an insult to human intelligence.

Durant would be the lifesaver for Harrison next summer.
I hope it's all dead right now.

This is not easy for me. I've been faithful to the Mavs for over 25 years. If you can't see it I'm sorry. I don't have to find faults with Kyrie. He did that himself. You seem to be running a troll account anyway.

[FireNicoHarrison]

This is not easy for me. I've been faithful to the Mavs for over 25 years. If you can't see it I'm sorry. I don't have to find faults with Kyrie. He did that himself. You seem to be running a troll account anyway.

These are just words of circumstance, irving is a very good person and wanted to welcome Davis in the best way possible by recalling an anecdote. 

Connecting this to the Doncic trade is just speculation because Harrison said it clearly... it was a four-handed negotiation. Him, pelinka, Jennie Buss and Dumont.

Yes i am a troll. I said it multiple times. 
Everybody understand.

[WildArkieBoy]

These are just words of circumstance, irving is a very good person and wanted to welcome Davis in the best way possible by recalling an anecdote. 

Connecting this to the Doncic trade is just speculation because Harrison said it clearly... it was a four-handed negotiation. Him, pelinka, Jennie Buss and Dumont.

Yes i am a troll. I said it multiple times. 
Everybody understand.

No one knows basketball like Pat Dumont and Nike Harrison

wab

[BolsDamols]

No one knows basketball like Pat Dumont and Nike Harrison

wab

They knew it. They lived it.