Lakers trade with Charlotte has been rescinded.

[RoyTarpleysGhost]

Bro, take it up with Dave McMenamin

[omahen]

How Doncic's and James' opinions align on Hayes will be the first test of their partnership that could last months or go on for years, depending on how the rest of this season pans out.

What is clear is that Doncic will have a say. And it wasn't lost on James' camp, sources said, that Pelinka prioritized Doncic's involvement upon his arrival and immediately engaged in the Williams trade that he'd asked for, when James had for years wanted the team to trade its picks to improve its roster.

Yeah, they really are trying to create a drama. Trading all the future away for 40 year old LeBron and 30+ year old Davis didn't make much sense. I guess anyone reasonable can understand that situation changes a lot with a 25 year old. 

It will be interesting to observe though, if this will still be 100 % LeBron team or will they switch to Luka*. I never believed LeBron was honest by "giving" the team to AD. It was always LeBron #1 and AD #2. LeBron has the keys to help Lakers build the team in the summer. If he opts out and signs for (much) less money, the team could go below the first apron and execute SnT and perhaps also bring full MLE player (depending how much paycut LeBron takes).

*: I think Luka wouldn't have a problem with Lakers being LeBron team and I think LeBron is going to allow to let Luka be Luka on offense, taking a bit more secondary role. Basically LeBron being the main voice of the team and Luka being the first violin on offense. I am also sure media will always try to create agendas and dramas. For example everytime Luka will take the final shot and miss, questioning why they didn't go to LeBron. One has to be really strong mentally for such things not to get in his head.

[KillerLeft]

I read this article and here I saw the statement that Luka specifically asked for Williams, which would really surprised me. I totally believe he described the type of center, that is logical. This was what Pelinka said - he never said Luka suggested Williams specifically.  Williams obviously fits the type. There was also a report, that Lakers asked Detroit for Duren, which would somehow be against that only one particular player was hunted. So I think this article is not totally exact or perhaps misleading in the part with Luka handpicking Williams. 

As for Lakers not spending assets on the center before. LeBron is now most comfortable playing PF. Moving AD to PF and bringing in another center would create a problem for them, as LeBron would also play out of position. Trading Davis obviously created a big hole at center position and something needed to be done. I am kind of ok that trade was rescinded, as it was always obviously a huge risk spending basically all remaining assets on such a player. Downside to this is that they are really weak at center, which will probably limit them at some point. LeBron will not get any younger next season, so it will be again more difficult to compete, even if they bring in a competent center in the summer.

I don't know this, but I suspect you're in for a whole new level of incorrect aggregation and agent planted agenda in your media now that you'll be following the Lakers. I'd be interested to get your take on the difference in fan experience about a year into this.

[RoyTarpleysGhost]

Yes omahen, please stick around.

You are one of my favorite posters even though I'm a Luka hater at times. I think it's a more generational thing I dont like most of these modern superstars compared to the Dirk and Duncan era.

[KillerLeft]

Yes omahen, please stick around.

You are one of my favorite posters even though I'm a Luka hater at times.  I think it's a more generational thing I dont like most of these modern superstars compared to the Dirk and Duncan era.

Agreed. Omahen has been missed, and his reappearance this week has helped me cope.

[omahen]

Yes omahen, please stick around.

You are one of my favorite posters even though I'm a Luka hater at times.  I think it's a more generational thing I dont like most of these modern superstars compared to the Dirk and Duncan era.

Who knows, I might. On one hand it is really difficult to read Luka hate posts (with all my heart I believe this opinions about his habits are too "black and white" and I think he did show many signs of changing, especially adjusting the way he plays to the roster around him over the years), but on the other hand this board is high in quality of discussion. A quick browse (didn't spend too much time looking) didn't result in me finding a similarly quality Lakers board and I have no intention in participating in reddit level conversations. 

I also fully understand this is the Mavs board so I can't really discuss the Lakers here, that are naturally interesting to me now. Really trying hard to stay out of "Luka bad, Luka good" discussions lately

[KillerLeft]

I also fully understand this is the Mavs board so I can't really discuss the Lakers here, that are naturally interesting to me now. Really trying hard to stay out of "Luka bad, Luka good" discussions lately

Feel free to engage in any way you wish, as long as it's in the appropriate thread. 

Maybe we should add some threads for the expansion of what's appropriate. I have a feeling you won't be the only one interested in discussing Luka's journey in LA, at least for a little while.

[mvossman]

Who knows, I might. On one hand it is really difficult to read Luka hate posts (with all my heart I believe this opinions about his habits are too "black and white" and I think he did show many signs of changing, especially adjusting the way he plays to the roster around him over the years), but on the other hand this board is high in quality of discussion. A quick browse (didn't spend too much time looking) didn't result in me finding a similarly quality Lakers board and I have no intention in participating in reddit level conversations. 

I also fully understand this is the Mavs board so I can't really discuss the Lakers here, that are naturally interesting to me now. Really trying hard to stay out of "Luka bad, Luka good" discussions lately

I think there is going to be a lot of Laker discussion on Mavs boards for quite some time after all of this.

[Jym]

I think there is going to be a lot of Laker discussion on Mavs boards for quite some time after all of this.

Gonna feel so weird rooting for the Lakers in the playoffs 
Being a Laker hatewatcher during the Kobe/Shaq years is what even got me into the NBA

[michaeltex]

Yeah, they really are trying to create a drama. Trading all the future away for 40 year old LeBron and 30+ year old Davis didn't make much sense. I guess anyone reasonable can understand that situation changes a lot with a 25 year old. 

It will be interesting to observe though, if this will still be 100 % LeBron team or will they switch to Luka*. I never believed LeBron was honest by "giving" the team to AD. It was always LeBron #1 and AD #2. LeBron has the keys to help Lakers build the team in the summer. If he opts out and signs for (much) less money, the team could go below the first apron and execute SnT and perhaps also bring full MLE player (depending how much paycut LeBron takes).

*: I think Luka wouldn't have a problem with Lakers being LeBron team and I think LeBron is going to allow to let Luka be Luka on offense, taking a bit more secondary role. Basically LeBron being the main voice of the team and Luka being the first violin on offense. I am also sure media will always try to create agendas and dramas. For example everytime Luka will take the final shot and miss, questioning why they didn't go to LeBron. One has to be really strong mentally for such things not to get in his head.

I'll add to the comments that I like having your takes on subjects and I'd be interested in how you feel about everything as the remaining season progresses.

FWIW, I think Luka HAS to be #1 to be effective, or at least that's my observation from watching him these last 6 years. With the ball, he can be a magician, making impossible passes and killer shots. But he's never been much for movement when playing off ball, so his effectiveness comes with the documented high usage rate. It will be interesting to see what LA does to change how he's used when LBJ is on court.

[SleepingHero]

Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania)
The Charlotte Hornets have been in contact with the NBA as they explore options to dispute the Los Angeles Lakers' failed physical assessment of Mark Williams, sources tell ESPN. The Williams/Dalton Knecht trade was nixed Saturday, and now Hornets weigh avenues to challenge.

[SleepingHero]

@esidery
The Hornets have officially filed a motion with the league office to dispute the Lakers’ failed physical for Mark Williams, per @ShamsCharania
.

Charlotte believes Williams is fully healthy, and they were transparent with the Lakers throughout negotiations before it was accepted

[numnuts23]

@esidery
The Hornets have officially filed a motion with the league office to dispute the Lakers’ failed physical for Mark Williams, per @ShamsCharania
.

Charlotte believes Williams is fully healthy, and they were transparent with the Lakers throughout negotiations before it was accepted

This could get interesting...but I'm sure the league will side with the Lakers and move on

[SleepingHero]

This could get interesting...but I'm sure the league will side with the Lakers and move on

Historically the league allows trade denials to stand, because who are they to overrule team doctors opinions?

But the report from Dave Mcmenamin that suggested the Lakers nixed the trade because they got cold feet over the amount they were sending out might give the league pause.

[Chicagojk]

League just announced their decision. Lakers will need to send their 29 first that was suppose to go to Dallas to satisfy the Hornets.

[Jmaciscool]

@esidery
The Hornets have officially filed a motion with the league office to dispute the Lakers’ failed physical for Mark Williams, per @ShamsCharania
.

Charlotte believes Williams is fully healthy, and they were transparent with the Lakers throughout negotiations before it was accepted

So on the off chance that the league sides with Charlotte over Lakers (ha!) then would that mean the trade goes back through, or would Charlotte just get some other type of compensation for LA nixing the trade?

[LukaMVP]

so what would be sent to Dallas as a compensation? oh sorry, Dallas won't ever be unsatisfied as long as Nico is their GM. used to think Grizzlies were Lakers reserve team and that's horribly wrong. the Pau Gasol trade ain't nothing tbh.

[F Gump]

So on the off chance that the league sides with Charlotte over Lakers (ha!) then would that mean the trade goes back through, or would Charlotte just get some other type of compensation for LA nixing the trade?

CHA wants the trade to be enforced, as is, which would mean it would get un-rescinded.