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(06-22-2023, 09:00 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: I'll say this: the Mavs have become a sort of low-key good drafting team. They have won some cautions benefit of the doubt from me with their scouting department since Finley came on board.
Luka...Brunson...Green...Hardy.
Not bad.
And yet they also drafted:
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06-22-2023, 09:03 PM
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(06-22-2023, 09:02 PM)RoyTarpleysGhost Wrote: Lively and Grant Williams would be a very "we needed a C and PF and that's all we could get with our assets" offseason.
That team is a 1st round exit.
Grant will always be associated with Jimmy Buckets punking him and the Celtics in my mind, forever more.
(06-22-2023, 09:03 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: And yet they also drafted:
Don't forget Tiger.
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(06-22-2023, 09:01 PM)cow Wrote: I'm not sure I'd put Green in the win column just yet.
Relative to the kind of picks they made during the previous decade?????
I'm sure. You're not getting an all-star with every pick, but he's already proven he's more than (insert the name of literally anyone drafted during the dirk era other than Josh Howard or Devin Harris here).
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(06-22-2023, 09:02 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: I doubt this has anything to do with Finley.
Luka/Brunson was Donnie/Carlisle - ready made picks.
Green was just a FO mess.
Hardy + Lively are Nico.
The only common denominator is Cuban. He's the true genius.
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SH, 4/5 is not bad. Amazing, actually.
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(06-22-2023, 09:03 PM)cow Wrote: Grant will always be associated with Jimmy Buckets punking him and the Celtics in my mind, forever more.
Yea
He fits here but his entire season soured me on him. Comes across as a clown with irrational confidence. Jae Crowder or Dillon Brooks type. Remember when he mouthed im gonna make both free throws and then bricked both.
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If LA and Miami passed on Whitmore then no one can complain about the Mavs passing on him. We clearly don’t know something.
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Jaime Jaquez Jr to the Heat at 18. Great pick.
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(06-22-2023, 09:04 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Relative to the kind of picks they made during the previous decade?????
I'm sure. You're not getting an all-star with every pick, but he's already proven he's more than (insert the name of literally anyone drafted during the dirk era other than Josh Howard or Devin Harris here).
Relative to other players available when Josh was drafted and his wild inconstancies. I know KG recently said he really likes the way Josh plays defense, but he's just far too passive on the offensive. Wish he had a little bit of alpha in him.
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Not likely but we are getting into the range where I would love to see another Mavs pick. Leonard Miller or Dariq Whitehead.
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What about Joe Harris and the Nets?
So many options.
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(06-22-2023, 09:05 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: SH, 4/5 is not bad. Amazing, actually.
I'm only sliiiiightly trying to pull your leg. I largely agree with you. Their drafting since 2018 has been pretty stellar. Heck even DSJ wasn't that bad of a pick given the context it was made in.
But I do not like this Lively pick. I hope I eat crow but I just don't see it. But I was all in with Cam. He has that talent.
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(06-22-2023, 09:07 PM)cow Wrote: Relative to other players available when Josh was drafted and his wild inconstancies. I know KG recently said he really likes the way Josh plays defense, but he's just far too passive on the offensive. Wish he had a little bit of alpha in him.
Ok, sure. But that's nitpicky in the framework of this topic, imho.
He IS a usable NBA player who WILL be sought after going into his second contract. Highly sought after. That isn't a "blown off" pick. That's a successful pick.
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Such a Heat pick
Exactly the type of guy who could roll in and start in a playoff game after an injury or 2
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Woj said poor workouts, bad interviews, and some iffy medicals are the cause for the Cam drop.
All I hear is the man made it possible to get picked up by the Mavs and they didn't take the chance
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Loved Miami drafting the Hispanic Jimmy Butler. Ha.
He will not be as good obviously but they have many similarities. Winner
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(06-22-2023, 09:04 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: (insert the name of literally anyone drafted during the dirk era other than Josh Howard or Devin Harris here).
The disrespect…
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(06-22-2023, 09:09 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Woj said poor workouts, bad interviews, and some iffy medicals are the cause for the Cam drop.
All I hear is the Man made it possible to get picked up by the Mavs and they didn't take the chance
Lots of other teams are passing on him...
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