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(12-28-2022, 08:31 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: The reason we played those guys as much as we did and played a good number of two-big minutes (two big minutes we were +4 for regulation and +11 when you add OT) is because Reggie's minutes were a disaster. O-Rating was a team low 100 when Reggie was in the game. Net rating was also team worst -21.6. I'm not sure two-big is necessarily about the bigs. It may be that without DFS and Green and with Reggie playing so poorly, Kidd has to do something.
New York played a lot of 2 big lineups as well. Seems like Kidd was trying to avoid getting crushed on the boards any worse than they already were. No point in having Reggie out there against Robinson/Randle if he's not hitting shots.
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(12-28-2022, 09:34 AM)loki Wrote: New York played a lot of 2 big lineups as well. Seems like Kidd was trying to avoid getting crushed on the boards any worse than they already were. No point in having Reggie out there against Robinson/Randle if he's not hitting shots.
Yeah, I think it was part about not having DFS or Kleber and part of it was that those are the two players who would normally be tasked with guarding Randle.
When the lineup you've been using recently has you putting Hardaway on Randle, it's easy to imagine why you'd get Powell in there with Wood.
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12-28-2022, 11:59 AM
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(12-28-2022, 07:54 AM)Kammrath Wrote: He credited McGee with the rebound tip that Wood actually was responsible for that led to the game tying shot? Or credited McGee with the tip to start OT?
You tell me. This is taken from the writeup on mavs.com.
Quote:Said coach Jason Kidd of the overtime-forcing play: “This kid doesn’t quit. You can see that. Late game was better for us tonight. The putback, JaVale caused that. That was a big play by JaVale sitting there the whole night. And then coming up with a play to help tie the game.
https://www.mavs.com/mavs-top-knicks/
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(12-28-2022, 11:59 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: You tell me. this is taken from the writeup on mavs.com.
https://www.mavs.com/mavs-top-knicks/
Well hopefully he sees the replay and tells Wood good job.
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(12-28-2022, 12:42 PM)Kammrath Wrote: Well hopefully he sees the replay and tells Wood good job. From the guy you say is a narcissist.
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(12-28-2022, 12:56 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: From the guy you say is a narcissist.
To be fair, I do not know Kidd at all, except from a fan perspective. He comes across as a narcissist, but that doesn't mean I am right about that. So at the same time thinking he is a narcissist, I hold out hope that he is more human and empathetic.
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(12-28-2022, 01:02 PM)Kammrath Wrote: To be fair, I do not know Kidd at all, except from a fan perspective. He comes across as a narcissist, but that doesn't mean I am right about that. So at the same time thinking he is a narcissist, I hold out hope that he is more human and empathetic. Even if he did correct his mistake, it points to how desperate he is to praise a guy who he wanted here as opposed to the correct player making the play. It's a mindset.
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(12-28-2022, 01:19 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: It's a mindset.
Oh I totally agree that all the evidence this season points to Kidd WANTING to lift up McGee and to dog Wood.
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(12-28-2022, 01:21 PM)Kammrath Wrote: Oh I totally agree that all the evidence this season points to Kidd WANTING to lift up McGee and to dog Wood.
JKidd's dishonesty duly noted.
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12-28-2022, 02:37 PM
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As much as some of you want to say that Kidd wants to prop up McGee, a lot of you are equally excited to tear him down. Although Wood got the tap, they were both close. Randle did a pretty good job boxing out Wood. McGee forced Robinson forward, moved his position to darn near under the basket and had a sneaky armbar which prevented him from raising up for the rebound. The space McGee created under the basket helped get that ball out. The devil is in the details.
Props to whoever decided the alignment. Doubtful anyone on our team could root out Randle but Mitchell is far less of a bull.
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Can we talk more about Luka's performance????
I mean he literally had one of the best games of all time.
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12-28-2022, 02:55 PM
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Those two clutch rebounds and putbacks while in the air are amazing.
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(12-28-2022, 02:55 PM)BoredAssistant Wrote: Those two clutch rebounds and putbacks while in the air are amazing.
What is crazy to me is that he did all of this without catching fire and hitting like 10 threes in a row.
He was just scoring like he normally does, over and over and over. What's scary is that in my mind he can replicate that scoring output on any night as long as he's not getting double/triple teamed.
He's a monster.
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12-28-2022, 03:14 PM
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That was the greatest individual sports performance I've seen in my 40 years of existence.
I watched Kobe drop 62 in 3 quarters against the Mavs. The Josh Hamilton 5 for 5 with 4 homeruns. Randy Moss with 3 catches for 163 yards and 3 TDs.
That was pure greatness from Luka. We are so lucky and privileged to watch him for 82 games a year. This is why Mavs fans are so passionate about Cuban and co. building the right team around him. We cannot waste the prime years of Luka.
As long as he stays healthy he WILL go down as one of the top 15 greatest Bball players ever.
Can he crack the 10 ?
- Jordan
- Lebron
- Wilt
- Kareem
- Bill Russell
- Magic
- Kobe
- Shaq
- Bird
- Duncan
- Oscar Robertson
- Durant
- Steph
- Hakeem
- Dr. J.
- Giannis
- Karl Malone
- Dirk
- Jerry West
- Moses Malone
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(12-28-2022, 01:19 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Even if he did correct his mistake, it points to how desperate he is to praise a guy who he wanted here as opposed to the correct player making the play. It's a mindset.
Honestly, he pulled McGee out of the starting lineup quicker than I would have guessed and has been giving him almost no minutes even with the injuries. His actions have done plenty to admit that signing was a mistake. Given that we are overpaying McGee for 3 years and at least some of his issues seems to be of the motivational variety, I don't blame for Kidd trying to prop him up the very few times he shows a hint of value on the court.
I did not like the way Kidd threw Wood under the bus in post game interviews earlier in the season, but the tone on those has changed. He has made several comments about Wood playing well on both ends of the floor, and Wood is currently starting and generally getting over 30 minutes a game. Everything I have seen recently is pointing more and more to the narrative that Kidd has been trying to get the most out of Wood defensively as opposed to the narrative that he didn't want Wood here and was trying to sabotage him.
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(12-28-2022, 03:14 PM)Nowitzki Way Wrote: That was pure greatness from Luka. We are so lucky and privileged to watch him for 82 games a year. This is why Mavs fans are so passionate about Cuban and co. building the right team around him. We cannot waste the prime years of Luka.
YOU CAN SAY THAT AGAIN!!!
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(12-28-2022, 03:14 PM)Nowitzki Way Wrote: That was the greatest individual sports performance I've seen in my 40 years of existence.
I watched Kobe drop 62 in 3 quarters against the Mavs. The Josh Hamilton 5 for 5 with 4 homeruns. Randy Moss with 3 catches for 163 yards and 3 TDs.
That was pure greatness from Luka. We are so lucky and privileged to watch him for 82 games a year. This is why Mavs fans are so passionate about Cuban and co. building the right team around him. We cannot waste the prime years of Luka.
As long as he stays healthy he WILL go down as one of the top 15 greatest Bball players ever.
Can he crack the 10 ?
- Jordan
- Lebron
- Wilt
- Kareem
- Bill Russell
- Magic
- Kobe
- Shaq
- Bird
- Duncan
- Oscar Robertson
- Durant
- Steph
- Hakeem
- Dr. J.
- Giannis
- Karl Malone
- Dirk
- Jerry West
- Moses Malone
I don't know who's list that is, but Kobe is too high and Dirk is too low. Durant is too high as well.
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12-28-2022, 03:26 PM
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(12-28-2022, 03:17 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: YOU CAN SAY THAT AGAIN!!!
More specifically. We cannot waste Luka's prime by surrounding him with one dimensional role players.
(12-28-2022, 03:24 PM)mvossman Wrote: I don't know who's list that is, but Kobe is too high and Dirk is too low. Durant is too high as well.
Just a random compilation. Nothing official. Wanted to give a visual for those who doubt Luka could reach the top 15-20.
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(12-28-2022, 03:26 PM)Nowitzki Way Wrote:
Just a random compilation. Nothing official. Wanted to give a visual for those who doubt Luka could reach the top 15-20.
They were so bold on The NBA Podcast today to raise the issue of how long before Lebron vs. Michael is replaced by Luka vs. Lebron. They pointed out that Luka is doing more in fewer minutes than Lebron was at the same point in their careers (five seasons). Below is an averaging of the season averages (which is slightly different than the per game average for each season, but the numbers were easier to come by). Note how close almost all of these numbers are:
Lebron Luka
Minutes 41.1 34.5
FGA 21.2 20.3
FG% .466 .466
3PA 4.0 8.2
3P% .322 .340
EFG .496 .535
FTA 8.7 8.2
FT% .730 .737
DRB 5.6 7.6
TRB 6.9 8.6
ASST 6.6 8.2
STL 1.8 1.2
TOV 3.3 4.1
PTS 27.4 27.9
Bear in mind that Lebron is achieving virtually identical counting stats while playing 19% more minutes. OK, Luka has more Assists, Rebounds and TO's, but everything else is about the same. It is kind of uncanny.
But wait!!! Now normalize the minutes and not only does Lebron never score as much per 36 in his first five years as Luka has averaged per 36 in that time (28.6), Lebron has only achieved that number per 36 once in 20 years (last season). Lebron has never once achieved a per 36 rebounding number equal to what Luka has averaged in his first 5 years per 36 (9.0). There have only been two seasons in 20 where Lebron's per 36 assists have bested the per 36 assists Luka has averaged his first five years (8.5)
So, the perception that Luka and Lebron were similar in their first five years is almost completely about the extra minutes Lebron played. Even without the extra minutes, Luka bests his numbers. Normalize the minutes and almost any scoring, rebounding or assist season for Lebron is a disappointment compared to what Luka is averaging super early in his career. Top 15-20. Yeah, just a matter of health.
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