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RE: MAVS NEWS: 7th in West | 11th O | 19th D | 13th Net | 2-5 in last 7 - StepBackJay - 04-19-2021
(04-19-2021, 09:08 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: I'm not sure it would work, at this point but this thought has occurred to me many, many times this year.
Like why wouldn't it work? It would at least fix the offense, presumably. That was our starting lineup last year until Powell got hurt. Mavs made these lineup changes to try to improve defensively while still maintaining a pretty potent offense. I think right now we have neither. Also given that the Mavs have had a string of terrible first quarters that seems to me to fall on the starters who play most of the minutes in the first quarter.
So ya I think given where things are now would be the time to start tinkering with the starting lineup again. Mavs are sort of stuck at 7th place anyway. I don't think you'd be worse off with trying last year's lineup.
THJ and Powell both give you energy. THJ replaces Maxi's shooting and gives you a little more creation (no more or less than what J Rich gives you). You give up some defense but Powell can rotate to help with close-outs on shooters. We already are terrible at this so its like how worse can it get? Powell at least helps crashing the offensive glass. A lot of times KP is too far from the board to crash it. Also on offense I think Powell's presence sort of turns KP back into a spacer/shooter which wouldn't be the worst thing.
Powell also gives Luka some easy offense with his rim-running. Anyways this is probably my favorite idea at the moment. I wouldn't mind trying other lineups too but since we have a large sample size with this lineup having success last year it seems like the first one I would go to honestly. Our bench would certainly do fine with Brunson, J Rich, Maxi, & JJ.
Previously I didn't want to bench J Rich bc I knew that would hamper Mavs ability to keep him but at this point he's a goner so I'd rather see what things look like with THJ back in the starting lineup since the Mavs need to determine their future with him.
RE: MAVS NEWS: 7th in West | 11th O | 19th D | 13th Net | 2-5 in last 7 - Chicagojk - 04-19-2021
(04-19-2021, 10:26 AM)StepBackJay Wrote: Like why wouldn't it work? It would at least fix the offense, presumably. That was our starting lineup last year until Powell got hurt. Mavs made these lineup changes to try to improve defensively while still maintaining a pretty potent offense. I think right now we have neither. Also given that the Mavs have had a string of terrible first quarters that seems to me to fall on the starters who play most of the minutes in the first quarter.I think I would be in favor of this as well. Might as well try.
So ya I think given where things are now would be the time to start tinkering with the starting lineup again. Mavs are sort of stuck at 7th place anyway. I don't think you'd be worse off with trying last year's lineup.
THJ and Powell both give you energy. THJ replaces Maxi's shooting and gives you a little more creation (no more or less than what J Rich gives you). You give up some defense but Powell can rotate to help with close-outs on shooters. We already are terrible at this so its like how worse can it get? Powell at least helps crashing the offensive glass. A lot of times KP is too far from the board to crash it. Also on offense I think Powell's presence sort of turns KP back into a spacer/shooter which wouldn't be the worst thing.
Powell also gives Luka some easy offense with his rim-running. Anyways this is probably my favorite idea at the moment. I wouldn't mind trying other lineups too but since we have a large sample size with this lineup having success last year it seems like the first one I would go to honestly. Our bench would certainly do fine with Brunson, J Rich, Maxi, & JJ.
Previously I didn't want to bench J Rich bc I knew that would hamper Mavs ability to keep him but at this point he's a goner so I'd rather see what things look like with THJ back in the starting lineup since the Mavs need to determine their future with him.
I am so tired of starting games and have four guys waiting around the perimeter to shoot a three. It is so boring. When they hit a few shots, things are fine. When they don't, the offense seems to be running in mud. Most nights, I just hope they keep pace until Jalen and Hardaway come into the game. The Mavs are way to reliant on both Jalen and Hardaway having good offensive games. When they are off, this teams looks to have no other secondary ways to attack defenses.
I would also be fine testing out Powell as a starter. As you mention, at least he is cutting, can rim run, and may even get a few offensive rebounds. Right now, in our starting lineup a three goes up and sometimes no one else is inside the three point line. That bugs me like crazy.
It was weird. Last night the bench appeared to be cheering hard when the Mavs were struggling. So that would tell me it is not a chemistry issue, but something appears off. Maybe Luka is just tired from being involved in almost every play when he is on the floor. Or maybe there is something with the starters. Although I don't think Kleber, Richardson or DFS would be causing problems. But maybe something else is there.
RE: MAVS NEWS: 7th in West | 11th O | 19th D | 13th Net | 2-5 in last 7 - Kammrath - 04-19-2021
https://twitter.com/tim_cato/status/1384157322943946763
RE: MAVS NEWS: 7th in West | 11th O | 19th D | 13th Net | 2-5 in last 7 - StepBackJay - 04-19-2021
Watching some highlights from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03vCN2HW8qE just to remind me of some of the offensive combinations.
You have a lot of Powell and KP out there and Powell is near the offensive glass when the shot goes up nearly every time. So he is either directly involved, ie the one taking the shot or there for put-backs and rebounds. He also helps you with defensive rebounding.
I think we fell in love two much with the idea that we could just play a lot of 5-out and put more defensive-minded guys in there and it would all work out. Clearly whatever defense that adds (which is questionable) is hurting the offensive and the Mavs overall ability to win games.
Going back to offense first and defense late to me would be the way to go. Mavs get their energy from offense. If their offense isn't working then the defense struggles as well because guys just aren't into the game.
RE: MAVS NEWS: 7th in West | 11th O | 19th D | 13th Net | 2-5 in last 7 - StepBackJay - 04-19-2021
Full disclosure the starting lineup we have was the one I wanted. 5 players that can shoot deep and 4 guys around Luka that can play defense. J Rich was also supposed to be able to do some playmaking. I thought Powell would get too much in the way of KP's offense. Now we have a big enough sample size where its just not working.
I don't think Powell gets in the way and his screen setting will help free guys up including KP for easier baskets. Powell brings something besides just jacking up 3s.
I'd like to see us get back to the rotations we were at last year substituting a mix of more Brunson, less J Rich and some JJ to make up for the loss of Curry. We have seen that Maxi has lost some of his defensive effectiveness as his minutes have gone up so I could see him being better overall coming off the bench at that 25 mpg number and also helping close games.
Brunson can help close games in the role that Curry had. Rick would usually go with the hotter of Curry and THJ to close and I think you could do the same here. J Rich is basically a marginally better 2019 Delon Wright to me so I would like to see his minutes decreased. Similar to Maxi its possible you see J Rich more effective on the defensive end and perhaps he could spell DFS more by coming off the bench.
RE: MAVS NEWS: 7th in West | 11th O | 19th D | 13th Net | 2-5 in last 7 - dirkfansince1998 - 04-19-2021
(04-19-2021, 10:26 AM)StepBackJay Wrote: Powell also gives Luka some easy offense with his rim-running.
Powell looked a lot better in recent games but the improvement is mostly coming on the defensive end. He is vocal, plays good positional defense and hustles.
Offense is still questionable. Percentages and O-Rating improved but the volume/production isn´t big enough to make a difference. Not a single point in the last two games (26 minutes total). He had a few games with vintage Powell performances but it is mostly against teams like the Wolves or Grizzlies with bad interior defense.
RE: MAVS NEWS: 7th in West | 11th O | 19th D | 13th Net | 2-5 in last 7 - StepBackJay - 04-19-2021
(04-19-2021, 01:02 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Powell looked a lot better in recent games but the improvement is mostly coming on the defensive end. He is vocal, plays good positional defense and hustles.
Offense is still questionable. Percentages and O-Rating improved but the volume/production isn´t big enough to make a difference. Not a single point in the last two games (26 minutes total). He had a few games with vintage Powell performances but it is mostly against teams like the Wolves or Grizzlies with bad interior defense.
Ya so that's why I want to see DP with a bigger role again. He was an analytics darling there for a couple of years bc if his very high efficiency. I was very critical of DP and his triple single stat lines but I've come around on him as a useful player. At least for this year I'd like to see what it'd look like going back to last year's starting lineup to see if the offense makes sense again.
RE: MAVS NEWS: 7th in West | 11th O | 19th D | 13th Net | 2-5 in last 7 - Kammrath - 04-19-2021
https://twitter.com/MarcJSpears/status/1384356982337929221
RE: MAVS NEWS: 7th in West | 11th O | 19th D | 13th Net | 2-5 in last 7 - Kammrath - 04-19-2021
https://twitter.com/townbrad/status/1384346848408735747
RE: MAVS NEWS: 7th in West | 11th O | 19th D | 13th Net | 2-5 in last 7 - Kammrath - 04-20-2021
https://twitter.com/dmn_mavericks/status/1384669467767083009
RE: MAVS NEWS: 7th in West | 11th O | 19th D | 13th Net | 2-5 in last 7 - HoosierDaddyKid - 04-21-2021
(04-19-2021, 08:27 AM)StepBackJay Wrote: Time to go to last year's starting lineup: Luka, THJ, DFS, Powell, KP. Mavs had the best offense in NBA history.
This year is totally different. Too many challenges to overcome. Covid, no fans, a ton of injuries to star players. Mavs will probably never reach that zenith of last year ever again. This year's most efficient teams on offense are the Jazz and Clippers.
RE: MAVS NEWS: 7th in West | 10th O | 21st D | 13th Net | 3-5 in last 8 - Kammrath - 04-22-2021
https://twitter.com/townbrad/status/1385087230352322561
RE: MAVS NEWS: 7th in West | 10th O | 21st D | 13th Net | 3-5 in last 8 - Kammrath - 04-22-2021
https://twitter.com/dallasmavs/status/1385082903667769345
RE: MAVS NEWS: 7th in West | 10th O | 21st D | 13th Net | 3-5 in last 8 - Kammrath - 04-22-2021
https://twitter.com/CallieCaplan/status/1385070782640963584
RE: MAVS NEWS: 7th in West | 10th O | 21st D | 13th Net | 3-5 in last 8 - michaeltex - 04-22-2021
So, after all the crappy play for the last few weeks, DAL is now tied with POR in losses and one behind in wins.
Wouldn't mind a sweep of the LALs this weekend, but will settle for a split. Especially if AD is back.
RE: MAVS NEWS: 7th in West | 10th O | 21st D | 13th Net | 3-5 in last 8 - ClutchDirk - 04-22-2021
https://twitter.com/dallasmavs/status/1384990330416771072
RE: MAVS NEWS: 7th in West | 10th O | 21st D | 13th Net | 3-5 in last 8 - ClutchDirk - 04-22-2021
https://twitter.com/dallasmavs/status/1384303299432644612
RE: MAVS NEWS: 7th in West | 10th O | 21st D | 13th Net | 3-5 in last 8 - ClutchDirk - 04-22-2021
https://twitter.com/dallasmavs/status/1385186622162055169
RE: MAVS NEWS: 7th in West | 10th O | 21st D | 13th Net | 3-5 in last 8 - KillerLeft - 04-22-2021
(04-22-2021, 09:38 AM)ClutchDirk Wrote: https://twitter.com/dallasmavs/status/1385186622162055169
What the Hell is this even about?
RE: MAVS NEWS: 7th in West | 10th O | 21st D | 13th Net | 3-5 in last 8 - HanspardsShowerVoice - 04-22-2021
(04-22-2021, 08:14 AM)michaeltex Wrote: So, after all the crappy play for the last few weeks, DAL is now tied with POR in losses and one behind in wins.
Wouldn't mind a sweep of the LALs this weekend, but will settle for a split. Especially if AD is back.
It's nice when the team you're chasing has a negative point differential and net rating for the year.