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RE: MAVS NEWS: KP a "full go" in practice, maybe two weeks away - haveitall - 12-29-2020
Would love to see KP make all star team. I say he will do it.
RE: MAVS NEWS: KP a "full go" in practice, maybe two weeks away - Kammrath - 12-29-2020
From the interviews some reading between the lines....
1) Rick was saying KP was doing some work at 4....Kleber was doing some work at 3 today. Not in a way that it would be the default from those two, but it is something I think he wants to be able to do.
2) WCS said the team was going to get much bigger at the 3, 4, and 5 once KP was back.
So it seems the small ball will mostly fade when KP is back. At least that is my hopeful read on this.
RE: MAVS NEWS: KP a "full go" in practice, maybe two weeks away - StepBackJay - 12-29-2020
(12-29-2020, 04:51 PM)Kammrath Wrote: From the interviews some reading between the lines....
1) Rick was saying KP was doing some work at 4....Kleber was doing some work at 3 today. Not in a way that it would be the default from those two, but it is something I think he wants to be able to do.
2) WCS said the team was going to get much bigger at the 3, 4, and 5 once KP was back.
So it seems the small ball will mostly fade when KP is back. At least that is my hopeful read on this.
Wow that would be nuts. I will believe it when I see it. I still think Rick goes small with KP taking Powell's spot. Maxi at the 3 would be nuts lol altho I am a fan of RC tinkering for sure.
RE: MAVS NEWS: KP a "full go" in practice, maybe two weeks away - omahen - 12-29-2020
(12-29-2020, 04:51 PM)Kammrath Wrote: So it seems the small ball will mostly fade when KP is back. At least that is my hopeful read on this.
You wish, I hope not
For me the interesting part was the question to WCS about Luka as a leader. "He leads by playing, he's a kid, he just enjoys game" So if I am reding between the lines - this is not leadership. I think they do need a vet leader that everyone will respect and that will let Luka be the star he is.
RE: MAVS NEWS: KP a "full go" in practice, maybe two weeks away - Kammrath - 12-29-2020
(12-29-2020, 05:01 PM)omahen Wrote: this is not leadership. I think they do need a vet leader that everyone will respect and that will let Luka be the star he is.
1) I agree it seems that Luka is not yet the leader he should be.
2) I think the Mavs purposely moved on from JJB to create a leadership vacuum that they are challenging Luka to fill.
Luka is going to have some growing pains as he learns to lead, but he is going to learn by doing it. I think the Mavs are purposely saying, "This is your team. Lead. Step up. It has to be you."
RE: MAVS NEWS: KP a "full go" in practice, maybe two weeks away - StepBackJay - 12-29-2020
Kamm can you point me to Rick's comments that talk ab KP working at the 4? I don't know if I would trust anything WCS says in terms of who is playing what spot on the floor. Rick's comfort level is with smallball so I will believe he will go big when I see it. Even against the extremely big Lakers he went again with Powell as the center so I don't think Mavs will go bigger.
RE: MAVS NEWS: KP a "full go" in practice, maybe two weeks away - omahen - 12-29-2020
(12-29-2020, 05:04 PM)Kammrath Wrote: Luka is going to have some growing pains as he learns to lead, but he is going to learn by doing it. I think the Mavs are purposely saying, "This is your team. Lead. Step up. It has to be you."
Who knows. This way it might take longer. I wonder if Barea was really the vet leader or just a locker room glue guy, sort of like Bobi. I think we need more a leader that can also regularly contribute. Millsap/Horford/Hill/Lowry type of guys. Guys that the whole league (refs included) respects.
RE: MAVS NEWS: KP a "full go" in practice, maybe two weeks away - Kammrath - 12-29-2020
(12-29-2020, 05:06 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: Kamm can you point me to Rick's comments that talk ab KP working at the 4?
In here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfABTCyIJY4&feature=emb_title
He was talking about the need for positional flexibility and that it is good for guys to know the other positions. Like I said above, I am NOT suggesting that he is saying KP will mostly play the 4.
WCS's comments in my mind are telling because he is implying that with KP back on the court, guys who previously were having to fill his spot in the 5 are not going to be bumped down to 3 or 4 (at least for some of their minutes)....making the team overall bigger with KP back.
RE: MAVS NEWS: KP a "full go" in practice, maybe two weeks away - fifteenth - 12-29-2020
(12-29-2020, 03:48 PM)Kammrath Wrote: https://twitter.com/CallieCaplan/status/1344002430254649351
Wow, he's putting in some work!! Is Rick going to prove to be the WCS whisperer?
RE: MAVS NEWS: KP a "full go" in practice, maybe two weeks away - Scott41theMavs - 12-29-2020
(12-29-2020, 05:09 PM)omahen Wrote:(12-29-2020, 05:04 PM)Kammrath Wrote: Luka is going to have some growing pains as he learns to lead, but he is going to learn by doing it. I think the Mavs are purposely saying, "This is your team. Lead. Step up. It has to be you."
Who knows. This way it might take longer. I wonder if Barea was really the vet leader or just a locker room glue guy, sort of like Bobi. I think we need more a leader that can also regularly contribute. Millsap/Horford/Hill/Lowry type of guys. Guys that the whole league (refs included) respects.
I would love Lowry and really like Hill. Think Hill would be far less expensive.
RE: MAVS NEWS: KP a "full go" in practice, maybe two weeks away - omahen - 12-29-2020
https://twitter.com/townbrad/status/1344051758977478667?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1344051865034625025%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es3_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Fdallas-mavericks
RE: MAVS NEWS: KP a "full go" in practice, maybe two weeks away - Scott41theMavs - 12-29-2020
(12-29-2020, 05:53 PM)omahen Wrote: https://twitter.com/townbrad/status/1344051758977478667?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1344051865034625025%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es3_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Fdallas-mavericks
Noooooooooooooooooooo....................
RE: MAVS NEWS: KP a "full go" in practice, maybe two weeks away - Tyler - 12-29-2020
(12-29-2020, 05:01 PM)omahen Wrote: For me the interesting part was the question to WCS about Luka as a leader. "He leads by playing, he's a kid, he just enjoys game" So if I am reding between the lines - this is not leadership. I think they do need a vet leader that everyone will respect and that will let Luka be the star he is.
I respectfully disagree. Here's the full quote:
Quote:"I think he’s the type of guy that leads by his play. He doesn’t necessarily talk a lot, and when he does he’s fun. He’s a kid, you know what I mean? He has fun with the game, you can tell that. The way he crafted his game and the way he approaches it in practice and in games, its fun. You know what I mean? For him, I just think he leads by playing fun, making everything fun, instead of like so serious all the time. You know in this league it’s hard to get a win. It can get real, real serious when you’re not getting that dub like you wanted. And then Luka’s always coming in with something to lighten the mood. And that’s a big-time leader."
IMO, it's important to understand WCS to fully appreciate his comments. He's an emotional dude, and the knock on him historically is that he's just not motivated enough to succeed in this league. He's previously talked about Carlisle helped him "fall in love with the work", and here he is raving about how Luka makes the game fun even when players may normally get down. It's basically the highest praise from WCS, where he's describing an aspect of Lukas leadership that he most responds to personally.
RE: MAVS NEWS: KP a "full go" in practice, maybe two weeks away - Tyler - 12-29-2020
(12-29-2020, 05:11 PM)Kammrath Wrote: WCS's comments in my mind are telling because he is implying that with KP back on the court, guys who previously were having to fill his spot in the 5 are not going to be bumped down to 3 or 4 (at least for some of their minutes)....making the team overall bigger with KP back.
It's actually not a new thing with WCS. Here's a quote from a month ago:
Quote:“I don’t think I am a center. That is straight up. I am playing the center role, but I don’t think I am a center. Can I play the role? Yeah, I can play any role, but mind frame-wise, body-wise, speed-wise, I think I am a small forward/power forward. I think I can transition into that. I think for my career I need to transition into that because the game is expanding. The big guy is weeding out. If you can’t shoot threes, run the floor, and play defense, you are not going to play this game for very long.”
https://thesmokingcuban.com/2020/11/03/mavericks-willie-cauley-stein-4szns/
I'm not sure how much he'll actually play the 3, but he's got the right attitude about expanding his game and I'm rooting for him to succeed.
RE: MAVS NEWS: KP a "full go" in practice, maybe two weeks away - omahen - 12-29-2020
(12-29-2020, 06:36 PM)Tyler Wrote: IMO, it's important to understand WCS to fully appreciate his comments. He's an emotional dude, and the knock on him historically is that he's just not motivated enough to succeed in this league. He's previously talked about Carlisle helped him "fall in love with the work", and here he is raving about how Luka makes the game fun even when players may normally get down. It's basically the highest praise from WCS, where he's describing an aspect of Lukas leadership that he most responds to personally.
I wasn't saying WCS was disrespectful, I hope it didn't sound that way. I just have my doubts that this kind of leadership really pushes everybody to give not just their best but more. What motivates players more - see Luka "having fun" or (for example) Lowry diving for every ball, sacrificing his body and not giving up an inch? Luka will be Luka and he is a great guy. Everybody loves him. I don't want to change him. He will change with getting older, as we all do. Unless he will stay a big baby like Shaq
Everybody loves ShaqWhat I am saying is Dallas might use one "Lowry" to push everybody. Push in a positive way, not by being a tyrant. Plus bring vet calming presence when things get serious. And, because "Lowry" type is respected by everybody, he would be able to hold everybody accountable - even Luka. Early reports indicate JRich could be that guy. Although I doubt he has the power and respect to hold Luka accountable.
RE: MAVS NEWS: KP a "full go" in practice, maybe two weeks away - Tyler - 12-29-2020
Ah... that's a fair point. We're on the same page.
Personally I suspect the fact that Luka is hardest on himself without attacking others helps build his own credibility among his teammates, especially as a young player. Think of him as the opposite of Paul George in that regard, who is kind of a joke as a lockerroom leader these days. But while I do think he'll grow into more of a vocal leader, I also appreciate the perspective that having anther guy around in the meantime to fill that role might be a good thing.
RE: MAVS NEWS: KP a "full go" in practice, maybe two weeks away - KillerLeft - 12-29-2020
(12-29-2020, 06:54 PM)omahen Wrote: What I am saying is Dallas might use one "Lowry" to push everybody.
I like Lowry. He’d be great. I also think Green could bring that element in a major way.
Powell can do more of this, too, if/when he gets his rhythm back. Luka will grow into a leader, and Brunson might, too. I believe both Richardson and Johnson can be good sources of leadership as they start to get more comfortable on the team.
But, anyone who watched “Sounds from the baseline” last year knows that the team treated KP like it was his team behind the scenes. I think when he’s back on the court, that stuff will improve.
RE: MAVS NEWS: KP a "full go" in practice, maybe two weeks away - cow - 12-29-2020
WCS at the SF spot.
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RE: MAVS NEWS: KP "weeks" away from returning, playing 4 on 4 - BolsDamols - 12-29-2020
(12-06-2020, 02:11 PM)Kammrath Wrote: https://twitter.com/townbrad/status/1335644660119851009
https://twitter.com/townbrad/status/1335644930153263104
https://twitter.com/IsaacLHarris/status/1335645008855248896
https://twitter.com/IsaacLHarris/status/1335646486735032320
https://twitter.com/IsaacLHarris/status/1335646835130707968
https://twitter.com/townbrad/status/1335648142881013767
https://twitter.com/CallieCaplan/status/1335650773863178248
(12-29-2020, 02:29 PM)sefant Wrote: https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon/status/1343997533853544451
https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon/status/1343997860736626690
https://media.giphy.com/media/111feFJzkob5oQ/giphy.gif
RE: MAVS NEWS: KP a "full go" in practice, maybe two weeks away - pompelmo - 12-30-2020
Willie understands where the game is headed. There is no longer a "center" as a high minute allocation role. All rim-running, shot-blocking but nothing else centers are situational now. The new five is a rim protecting wing.