(01-04-2021, 03:48 PM)cow Wrote: It's more of an exercise on what I'll think the Mavs will do, not what I personally want.  If that makes any sense.

(01-04-2021, 04:18 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: Mavs need another playmaker/scorer to replace THJ who is terrible.

(01-04-2021, 04:27 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: The Powell/THJ bashing is getting out of hand.
It´s not like they are any worse (or better) than the other options. Yesterday WCS was worse than Powell has ever been this season but I don´t see anyone questioning him. When THJ is the only one that shows up against the Hornets and plays great defense in the next game against the Heat no one mentions it. But after a bad game the entire community cannot wait to throw him under the bus.

Yes the Mavs need more/better playmaking from the perimeter. But why is that on THJ? Can we at least question what anyone not named Doncic (or Brunson against the Bulls) is doing on offense. We all know that THJ is not a good 1st or 2nd option. Neither is Richardson. We also know that both are a lot better as spot up shooters.

(01-04-2021, 04:38 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: Convert THJ into a guy that can score and/or make plays and you have raised the ceiling of this basketball team.

(01-04-2021, 04:49 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Get a better player and the team improves.

(01-04-2021, 04:27 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: The Powell/THJ bashing is getting out of hand.
It´s not like they are any worse (or better) than the other options. Yesterday WCS was worse than Powell has ever been this season but I don´t see anyone questioning him. When THJ is the only one that shows up against the Hornets and plays great defense in the next game against the Heat no one mentions it. But after a bad game the entire community cannot wait to throw him under the bus.

Yes the Mavs need more/better playmaking from the perimeter. But why is that on THJ? Can we at least question what anyone not named Doncic (or Brunson against the Bulls) is doing on offense. We all know that THJ is not a good 1st or 2nd option. Neither is Richardson. We also know that both are a lot better as spot up shooters.

(01-04-2021, 04:49 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Get a better player and the team improves. Don´t think anyone would disagree. Question is if that kind of player is available for trade (remember that the Mavs don´t have a lot to give) or in free agency.

(01-04-2021, 05:34 PM)cow Wrote: The Powell bashing is justified at this point.  Powell was unplayable yesterday.  He air balled two (2!) lay ups.  I'll give you the fact that we don't have better options but boy oh boy is he a bummer.  Our entire front court doesn't rebound and unless we fix that issue, New York is going to be very happy with the outcome of our season.

(01-04-2021, 05:13 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: I don't see him saying this. I see him saying get a player, even if he is on the same level as THJ in what he does that switches the skillsets to a player that can make plays for himself and others to go with who we have on the roster currently. I keep saying this, but DRose with his skillset would do wonders on this team IMO.

(01-04-2021, 02:38 AM)juanc Wrote: Josh Green has 1 year and 7 months to score 17 points in a game before you compare him to Saddiq(That's how much younger he is than Bey, who is the same age as Luka(A month younger))
Or 2 years and 5 months younger than Bane.
Terry is 1 month older than Green.

And that's why you don't judge rookies in their first year. Luka realy spoiled us.

(01-04-2021, 05:34 PM)cow Wrote: The Powell bashing is justified at this point.  Powell was unplayable yesterday.  He air balled two (2!) lay ups.  I'll give you the fact that we don't have better options but boy oh boy is he a bummer.  Our entire front court doesn't rebound and unless we fix that issue, New York is going to be very happy with the outcome of our season.

(01-04-2021, 05:20 PM)mavsluvr Wrote: I think there's a lot to this. It's sort of in the nature of fan boards to scapegoat players, and this one is better than most about that, but some people are putting a lot on Powell and THJ that doesn't really belong on them. If one were to replace all of Powell's minutes with Maxi, WCS, Bobi, and Johnson, and replace all of Tim's minutes with the other guards, I see nothing to indicate that the team would be likely to have done better, and may well have done worse. The alternatives to those two players all have their own issues. 

Powell's injury is what it is, and he necessarily will have to operate within those limitations. Rick and the medical team evidently think he can get closer to where he used to be, and I don't have any information to the contrary. He is actually much smarter than WCS, who seems to be a bit of a coach's nightmare -- a guy that you never know what you're going to get when he's on the floor. Tim's assignment is to be the team's second scoring option while KP is out, and he is obviously trying to broaden his game. Volume shooters inherently have up and down nights. 

Part of the overall issue is, tbh, using these players in ways they're not good at. For example, iirc, they had put Tim on LaVine when Zach got going. What were they expecting? A lot better defenders than THJ have been stifled in attempts to stop LaVine. I'm not really throwing stones at Carlisle, either -- he always experiments early in the season, and some experiments inevitably are going to work better than others. 

This isn't really intended to be so much a defense of Powell and THJ as a comment that the Mavs' issues aren't nearly as simple as taking a couple of complementary players off the court and substituting others for them. Maybe they will be flipped eventually, maybe they won't, but for now, I think the best course of action is in helping them try to improve, hard as that is to stomach in the short run.

(01-04-2021, 03:14 PM)omahen Wrote: Good for him. However, huge difference between Seth situation in Dallas and Philly. He is surrounded by 4 good to great defenders in Philly who cover his weaknesses. Dallas didn't have that. That's why they can play him more.

Besides, it's still a very small sample. He is shooting insane 62/51/100 at the moment.

(01-04-2021, 03:48 PM)cow Wrote: It's more of an exercise on what I'll think the Mavs will do, not what I personally want.  If that makes any sense.

(01-04-2021, 05:53 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: All that being said I think THJ is a bigger more immediate problem. THJ is being relied upon too much. I realize KP & Luka were out and will both be back soon but I don't want THJ taking big shots in the playoffs. He needs to get moved this year or he will be a liability.

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(01-04-2021, 06:33 PM)F Gump Wrote: Then why are you saying Green or Griffin are good ideas we should think about, when they don't fit what the Mavs ever do? "Not Ever" feels like a pretty good guide.

(01-04-2021, 06:01 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: He was better than WCS. At least he was able to get some stops on defense and actually boxed out his matchup most of the time. WCS had one of his famous off games. Mistake after mistake leading to offensive rebounds and easy layups/dunks or FTs.
For me it is more about the tendency to blame Powell even though the other guys played just as bad or even worse. I don´t think anyone would argue that Powell had a good game against the Bulls.

Personally I agree with you that both aren´t getting the job done right now. I wanted the Mavs to sign a big forward or versatile bigman with the MLE instead of WCS.
We can only hope that KP stays healthy and fixes most of the problems.