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RE: AROUND the NBA: Harden who is demanding a trade, is cleared to play - KillerLeft - 12-27-2020
(12-27-2020, 09:33 PM)Branduil Wrote: Morey is honestly a moron if he doesn't trade Ben Simmons for Harden.
Something at that high of a franchise altering level might not be completely up to him, less than two months into the job.
RE: AROUND the NBA: Harden is demanding a trade - MaxiThreeba - 12-27-2020
Mavs should have been all over Wood. He would have given them coverage for KP’s injury issues.
Whether Giannis signed the super max or not Wood should have been target numero uno.
Signing him would have put the Mavs in a position to have Wood and KP as key pieces and more importantly key assets.
Then if a FA is available or...as it played out...the FA market dries up but trade opportunities arise......you have...wait for it...assets!
As it stands now your only asset is the ability to take on salary another team doesn’t want.
RE: AROUND the NBA: Harden is demanding a trade - Kammrath - 12-27-2020
https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine/status/1343418637428801536
RE: AROUND the NBA: Harden is demanding a trade - khaled1987 - 12-28-2020
(12-27-2020, 11:42 PM)Kammrath Wrote: Who says you are alone on that team?
That is HIGH on my list at this point. With Giannis and Gobert locked up, I see very few targets that I like.
Almost every suggested move I've seen here had "throw" first in it. Mostly for players who aren't All NBA or even All-Stars.
I don't think people realise how long it will lock us tbh.
RE: AROUND the NBA: Harden is demanding a trade - Kammrath - 12-28-2020
(12-28-2020, 12:02 AM)khaled1987 Wrote: Almost every suggested move I've seen here had "throw" first in it. Mostly for players who aren't All NBA or even All-Stars.
Yeah, it is just impatient message board fans.
Pretty sure @"KillerLeft" is fully on Team Patient with us.
RE: AROUND the NBA: Harden is demanding a trade - Omega_Supreme - 12-28-2020
I do not like the idea of having big money tied into 2 stars with major injuries in their past.
I can see one but there are other options out there other than Oladipo
I posted the trade scenario that would work but he is not my first choice in a target player with superstar ability.
RE: AROUND the NBA: Harden is demanding a trade - Branduil - 12-28-2020
(12-27-2020, 11:35 PM)khaled1987 Wrote: Hmmm, it seems tome it is all based on that report that his tendon tear is 2nd worst injury in sports.Most of us who want to potentially trade for Dipo aren't suggesting using important assets, just our expirings and bench players.
If he looks good, and as athletic then I really don't believe that, it most likely mean he will be a Kawhi for his rest of career (both had quad injury, quad tendinopathy is more of a bitch of an injury btw. From personal experience)
Comparing that to KP who had ACL at 7'3, I would argue it is same risk tbh.
That said,I simply believe you don't invest in 2 injury prone core players, one is enough. We have KP for that tbh.
That is why I am sole member of team "reload" assets, simply keeping our draft picks until we pay the Knicks, or at least till 2022 summer, when we will have the ability to trade 3 picks and have KP contract close to end while having clearer picture of his health long term.
RE: AROUND the NBA: Harden is demanding a trade - Omega_Supreme - 12-28-2020
(12-27-2020, 11:36 PM)cow Wrote: Looks like Randle isn't just a Mavs killer.
That is exactly the type of player the Mavs need to counter a guy like Montrez Harrell
For some reason the Mavs do not value physical bigs.
He would fit perfectly with KP.
RE: AROUND the NBA: Harden is demanding a trade - Branduil - 12-28-2020
Randle plays zero defense, let's not get carried away because of one game.
RE: AROUND the NBA: Harden is demanding a trade - Kammrath - 12-28-2020
Another cautionary tale:
https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1343428726248386561
RE: AROUND the NBA: Harden is demanding a trade - cow - 12-28-2020
(12-28-2020, 12:30 AM)Kammrath Wrote: Another cautionary tale:
https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1343428726248386561
Most of those shots aren't even close. I'm not trying to make excuses for anyone but it might take time for some players to adjust to empty arenas. I like Oubre in Washington as he showed some flashes but I'm happy he didn't end up here.
When is the appropriate time to have the conversation about Kerr's coaching ability?
RE: AROUND the NBA: Harden is demanding a trade - Omega_Supreme - 12-28-2020
(12-28-2020, 12:16 AM)Branduil Wrote: Randle plays zero defense, let's not get carried away because of one game.
I think what we are saying is that we do not have a big that can consistently work inside and Randle can do that. He has improved his averages every year and averaged 19 and 10 last year.
Like I said if you want a guy that can do everything be prepared to pay 30 million. To say that Randle is a JAG is beyond idiotic. He is a legit 4 in this league and better than anything we have on the roster outside of KP.
RE: AROUND the NBA: Harden is demanding a trade - cow - 12-28-2020
(12-28-2020, 12:41 AM)Omega_Supreme Wrote: I think what we are saying is that we do not have a big that can consistently work inside and Randle can do that. He has improved his averages every year and averaged 19 and 10 last year.
Like I said if you want a guy that can do everything be prepared to pay 30 million. To say that Randle is a JAG is beyond idiotic. He is a legit 4 in this league and better than anything we have on the roster.
He reminds of a much more athletic version of Kanter. They just know how to work the inside and get buckets. I've always been intrigued by the idea of running your second unit through a guy like that.
RE: AROUND the NBA: Harden is demanding a trade - Omega_Supreme - 12-28-2020
(12-28-2020, 12:39 AM)cow Wrote: Most of those shots aren't even close. I'm not trying to make excuses for anyone but it might take time for some players to adjust to empty arenas. I like Oubre in Washington as he showed some flashes but I'm happy he didn't end up here.
When is the appropriate time to have the conversation about Kerr's coaching ability?
And to think people on this board wanted him to be a target. I also don't get the Otto Porter fascination when he can't even break the starting the lineup on a bad roster.
RE: AROUND the NBA: Harden is demanding a trade - Omega_Supreme - 12-28-2020
(12-28-2020, 12:44 AM)cow Wrote: He reminds of a much more athletic version of Kanter. They just know how to work the inside and get buckets. I've always been intrigued by the idea of running your second unit through a guy like that.
Same here and we could use a guy like that to counter a Montrez Harrell not that most teams have that but I think you get my point. That is why Montrez is such a bad matchup for us. We have no one that can challenge him on the other end in our second unit.
How do you feel about Andre Drummond? I know people are using the Philly Horford comparison but that is not the same situation since KP is a stretch 4/5.
RE: AROUND the NBA: Harden is demanding a trade - jesusshuttlesworth82 - 12-28-2020
The Cavaliers are 3-0 WTF
RE: AROUND the NBA: Harden is demanding a trade - cow - 12-28-2020
(12-28-2020, 12:52 AM)Omega_Supreme Wrote: Same here and we could use a guy like that to counter a Montrez Harrell not that most teams have that but I think you get my point. That is why Montrez is such a bad matchup for us. We have no one that can challenge him on the other end in our second unit.
How do you feel about Andre Drummond? I know people are using the Philly Horford comparison but that is not the same situation since KP is a stretch 4/5.
I guess it depends what he'll cost this offseason. He'd address a massive issue the team has in rebounding. He'll be 28 to start his next contract so a lot younger than Al. I haven't watched his game in a while so I'd have to say "I don't know for now".
RE: AROUND the NBA: Harden is demanding a trade - Mavs2019 - 12-28-2020
(12-28-2020, 12:58 AM)jesusshuttlesworth82 Wrote: The Cavaliers are 3-0 WTFThunder are the last unbeaten team in the West.
I wonder what the pay-out would have been on last five teams to be unbeaten:
Cavs
Thunder
Magic
Pacers
Hawks
Anyway Project Lavine coming along nicely at 0-3.
RE: AROUND the NBA: Harden is demanding a trade - jesusshuttlesworth82 - 12-28-2020
(12-27-2020, 10:49 PM)Kammrath Wrote: So that isn't even an apples to apples or a rational comparison.
Dipo is specifically having to rest the knee that was injured 22 months ago because of how completely devastating that injury was....his knee will NEVER be the same.
KP on the other hand had a torn ACL (something much easier to recover from than a quad tendon tear) in one knee 34 months ago and is sitting out now because of a completely separate contact injury in the other knee.
But go ahead and ignore facts and reality if you so desire. Thankfully the Mavs management will actually look at the facts.
I guess you missed the point I was trying to make with my joke. Oladipo sat on a BACK TO BACK. Porzingis sat in a few back to backs last year. He'll probably do it this year too. Kawhi and KD will probably sit out some back to backs too. Why dont you remind us how long it's been since Kawhi's injury? These days lots of players sit on back to backs for injury/body management. Not sure why you're melting down over Oladipo.
Everyone know it's BUYER BEWARE with him. No one wants to trade the farm for him. If he plays like an All-Star this year, he's probably going somewhere more glamourous like Miami. I'd easily trade our shitty 18th draft pick and THJ to take a chance on him and I'm not even convinced about him. On a scale of 1-10, that's like a 2.5 on the risk scale.
(12-27-2020, 11:16 PM)cow Wrote: Dipo has the added "benefit" of being a locker room disrupter to add to his health woes.
Yeah, just like everyone in NY said Porzingis was.
RE: AROUND the NBA: Harden is demanding a trade - jesusshuttlesworth82 - 12-28-2020
(12-28-2020, 12:07 AM)Kammrath Wrote: Yeah, it is just impatient message board fans.
Pretty sure @"KillerLeft" is fully on Team Patient with us.
Pretty sure it's just message board fans that wont trade a pick in the 16-24 range for anything less than an all-star. Covington got traded for two picks better than the Mavs 18th pick.
The question I'm posing is simple: Before you started "coming around on him" because we picked him, would you have traded Josh Green and THJ for Oladipo?
Oladipo's career could end tomorrow and I wouldn't lose much sleep over trading that package. Although it would suck not having THJ to finish the year out.