(07-19-2021, 12:01 PM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: One other thing I would add is that if Adams stretched the floor vertically it would also help but he doesn't really do that either.  I just worry he would clog the paint on offense.

(07-19-2021, 12:24 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: https://www.basketballnetwork.net/steven-adams-working-on-his-three-pointer-tells-us-small-ball-is-here-to-stay/

Seems like Steven is 1 step ahead of you 

(07-19-2021, 10:40 AM)Kammrath Wrote: Would anyone consider....

KP + JR

for

Adams + Bledsoe + #10 + #35

?


1) I personally think both Adams & Bledsoe would be better fits with Luka than KP & JR. So you might upgrade both positions right away.
2) Bledsoe becomes an expiring after next season because the last year of his contract is not guaranteed. 
3) Adams is cheaper than KP by $14M per yr and both have some defensive liability in a playoff situation. Adams expires sooner than KP. Adams has been a consistent positive for his teams, helping with rebounding, screen setting, and overall great effort.
4) You get draft capital to either use or pass along in another trade.

(07-19-2021, 08:39 PM)cow Wrote: I'm torn on Adams.  I bitch a lot about rebounding so he solves that issue.  On the other hand, the modern NBA has greatly reduced the value of his skillset.  

(07-19-2021, 08:39 PM)cow Wrote: Are there 10 players in this draft that everyone loves?

I'm torn on Adams.  I bitch a lot about rebounding so he solves that issue.  On the other hand, the modern NBA has greatly reduced the value of his skillset.  

We own our 2022 pick but even with a trade that reduces our talent, Luka too good to let the team be bad enough to make that a top five pick.  The ping pong ball Gods hate us anyway.

I also don't believe that Nico is in win now mode.  The roster isn't close to that and we don't have enough pieces on the chess board to make that viable.  While I could see us getting talent to take a step forward, I never rule out taking a step back for the greater good of the future (assets, cap space).

(07-20-2021, 01:00 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: The Kings I suppose are trying a package of Fox+Hield+Haliburton+picks, but I don't think anyone values their guys as much as Sacramento thinks.

(07-20-2021, 05:13 AM)Mapka Wrote: I'm pretty sure Nico is in win now mode.
His boss is telling him to be, his superstar is addicted to winning and hates losing, the rest of the roster is in his prime or far from playing, we have cap but no pics. What else than win now can he do?

(07-20-2021, 01:00 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Rockets...? Kings...? 

(07-20-2021, 01:19 PM)cow Wrote: I guess it depends how you define win now.  Mavs are kind of stuck in the middle.  Too good to be a lottery team, not nearly good enough to be a championship team.  I think they'll try to improve the team with our available cap space, but if that doesn't work out, you could use that cap space to take on shorter, bad contracts and try to grab assets.  They could do this with KP too.  You could also flip our better players/contracts (Brunson, DFS, Maxi) for future picks.  

I agree that Mark wants to win, he's always impatient.  But if you can't land an impact player with our cap space, there is no use in spending money on a player along the lines of Wright or Richardson as you aren't improving the ceiling of the team (2nd round exit).

(07-20-2021, 01:19 PM)cow Wrote: I guess it depends how you define win now.  Mavs are kind of stuck in the middle.  Too good to be a lottery team, not nearly good enough to be a championship team.  I think they'll try to improve the team with our available cap space, but if that doesn't work out, you could use that cap space to take on shorter, bad contracts and try to grab assets.  They could do this with KP too.  You could also flip our better players/contracts (Brunson, DFS, Maxi) for future picks.  

I agree that Mark wants to win, he's always impatient.  But if you can't land an impact player with our cap space, there is no use in spending money on a player along the lines of Wright or Richardson as you aren't improving the ceiling of the team (2nd round exit).

(07-20-2021, 04:50 PM)mvossman Wrote: I don't think they are quite as far as you are stating from competing, especially if KP gets back to what he was last year.  I don't think Cuban brought in Nico and Kidd to trade away players for picks.  That's not something he did back when it made sense, and I would argue it probably does not make sense now.  Luka is about to sign his first extension.  The clock is ticking.  They have 34 in cap and need to add two starters, preferably one who is at least close to "star".  If they have to go old (Lowry/Conley), bad fit (DeRozan), out for a year (Kawhi) or overpay an RFA (Collins/Ball) they are going to go balls out to get that star.  And if they completely fail on getting a star, then they will go hard at second tier guys (Powell, Fournier, Holmes, Barton, Schroder, Dinwiddie) and there are a lot of guys around the MLE that could easily start on this team.

There are probably over 20 guys out there before you get to Wright/Richardson level.  We are one of the few teams that has significant cap space and can spend well over MLE on multiple players.  This is it.  I don't think they can push the can down the road any more after Luka signs his extension.  They have to get some talent in, and I think they will do anything they can to do it.

(07-20-2021, 04:50 PM)mvossman Wrote: I don't think they are quite as far as you are stating from competing, especially if KP gets back to what he was last year.  I don't think Cuban brought in Nico and Kidd to trade away players for picks.  That's not something he did back when it made sense, and I would argue it probably does not make sense now.  Luka is about to sign his first extension.  The clock is ticking.  They have 34 in cap and need to add two starters, preferably one who is at least close to "star".  If they have to go old (Lowry/Conley), bad fit (DeRozan), out for a year (Kawhi) or overpay an RFA (Collins/Ball) they are going to go balls out to get that star.  And if they completely fail on getting a star, then they will go hard at second tier guys (Powell, Fournier, Holmes, Barton, Schroder, Dinwiddie) and there are a lot of guys around the MLE that could easily start on this team.

There are probably over 20 guys out there before you get to Wright/Richardson level.  We are one of the few teams that has significant cap space and can spend well over MLE on multiple players.  This is it.  I don't think they can push the can down the road any more after Luka signs his extension.  They have to get some talent in, and I think they will do anything they can to do it.

(07-20-2021, 06:13 PM)Aussiebballer Wrote: If JRich ops in then I think they will sign THJ, use the MLE and try to add more players via trades.
Seems like that is where this headed.