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RE: AROUND the NBA: McCollum trade "probable" | Lillard unhappy - SleepingHero - 06-28-2021
(06-28-2021, 01:56 PM)Thukydides Wrote: Ok we disagree over Siakam's and especially Wiseman's value. I agree, Raps should trade him, but this GSW offer wouldn't entice me
Interesting.
I'm curious where do you put Siakam's value if Wiseman+#7 isn't enough?
RE: AROUND the NBA: McCollum trade "probable" | Lillard unhappy - jesusshuttlesworth82 - 06-28-2021
Dame and Steph on the same team would be nuts.
RE: AROUND the NBA: McCollum trade "probable" | Lillard unhappy - Thukydides - 06-28-2021
Siakam averaged 21/7/4,5 this season with good to great defense and switchability. The wings, who can give you this production can be counted with two hands (Kawhi, KD, PG, Lebron, Tatum, Brown, Middleton, Butler). And the Raps would have to take on Wiggins? At least I'd want the 14th pick too and I'd have to think hard, before agreeing to this.
RE: AROUND the NBA: McCollum trade "probable" | Lillard unhappy - omahen - 06-28-2021
(06-28-2021, 02:19 PM)Thukydides Wrote: Siakam averaged 21/7/4,5 this season with good to great defense and switchability. The wings, who can give you this production can be counted with two hands (Kawhi, KD, PG, Lebron, Tatum, Brown, Middleton, Butler). And the Raps would have to take on Wiggins? At least I'd want the 14th pick too and I'd have to think hard, before agreeing to this.
Siakam efficiency is below 50 %, which is very bad. Wiggins was scoring 18.6 points on 54 % efficiency while adding 5 boards and 2.5 assists. His contract is a year shorter. Both are overpaid so the Wiseman and pick covers the difference between the two, imho.
RE: AROUND the NBA: McCollum trade "probable" | Lillard unhappy - Thukydides - 06-28-2021
(06-28-2021, 02:26 PM)omahen Wrote: Siakam efficiency is below 50 %, which is very bad. Wiggins was scoring 18.6 points on 54 % efficiency while adding 5 boards and 2.5 assists. His contract is a year shorter. Both are overpaid so the Wiseman and pick covers the difference between the two, imho.
Wiggins played with Curry and Siakam was lead ballhandler on a bad team. I don't think this comparison is justifies
RE: AROUND the NBA: McCollum trade "probable" | Lillard unhappy - mvossman - 06-28-2021
(06-28-2021, 01:44 PM)Thukydides Wrote: In my eyes the only franchise for a KP trade is San Antonio. They can absorb him and have some kind of mid tier value to give back (ideally someone like Derrick White)
I would do that trade in a second. He would be a great fit as a shooting guard next to Luka, and we would generate another 17 Mil in cap space. I would be surprised if the Spurs do this.
I think there other options for a KP trade. If we end up signing DeRozan, we could probably do a S&T for KP if we wanted. Might also be able to do something like a DeRozan/White for KP/Brunson trade.
Charlotte has also expressed interest in KP and a willingness to trade Hayward. Something involving those two (including a straight up trade) seems possible.
The Wizard have expressed interest as well, but not sure what could make sense there.
RE: AROUND the NBA: McCollum trade "probable" | Lillard unhappy - HanspardsShowerVoice - 06-28-2021
It seems like Toronto is in a mini rebuild, and I'm not sure Siakam fits their organizational timeline anymore at 27 years old. They have some pieces in place in 23 year old Anunoby and 22 year old Gary Trent and whoever they take at the #4 pick. If/when they let Lowry walk they should have some cap space to grab ome more young talent in free agency. Fred Van Vleet is a little old at 27, but he is such a high character guy they might want him to stay in in a lockerroom tone-setter/leadership position. Getting Wiseman and the #7 pick could acccelerate the rebuild even faster. Wiseman's age/inexperience might not bother Toronto too much, because they're not expecting to contend in the next 2-3 years.
RE: AROUND the NBA: McCollum trade "probable" | Lillard unhappy - Kammrath - 06-28-2021
https://twitter.com/TimBontemps/status/1409611212929867779
RE: AROUND the NBA: McCollum trade "probable" | Lillard unhappy - Kammrath - 06-28-2021
https://twitter.com/SIChrisMannix/status/1409607026708140041
RE: AROUND the NBA: McCollum trade "probable" | Lillard unhappy - Hypermav - 06-28-2021
(06-28-2021, 04:26 PM)Kammrath Wrote: https://twitter.com/TimBontemps/status/1409611212929867779
![[Image: giphy.gif]](https://media.giphy.com/media/Q09lToTa0H3Es/giphy.gif)
Be nice, be nice...
RE: AROUND the NBA: McCollum trade "probable" | Lillard unhappy - Scott41theMavs - 06-28-2021
Clipps living off of DeMarcus Cousins right now.
RE: AROUND the NBA: McCollum trade "probable" | Lillard unhappy - Tyler - 06-28-2021
When you build your various trade ideas to get Lillard to Dallas, be sure to include Nurkic in the deal.
https://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/2021/06/portland-trail-blazers-jusuf-nurkic-says-if-damian-lillard-goes-he-goes.html
RE: AROUND the NBA: McCollum trade "probable" | Lillard unhappy - KillerLeft - 06-28-2021
Haven't been able to watch the game tonight, but I see Ayton is -20 and the internet tells me Mann has played a lot of center tonight...I guess the Clippers went even smaller?
RE: AROUND the NBA: McCollum trade "probable" | Lillard unhappy - Kammrath - 06-28-2021
![[Image: E5BLZlhWQAEzlGV?format=jpg&name=large]](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E5BLZlhWQAEzlGV?format=jpg&name=large)
RE: AROUND the NBA: McCollum trade "probable" | Lillard unhappy - Kammrath - 06-28-2021
https://twitter.com/basketbllnews/status/1409706726442508295
RE: AROUND the NBA: McCollum trade "probable" | Lillard unhappy - KillerLeft - 06-28-2021
Clippers staying in this series without Kawhi Leonard and Zubac. I think they would've trounced PHX if they hadn't have lost KL, personally.
Feeling better about the fight the Mavs put up every day, tbh.
RE: AROUND the NBA: McCollum trade "probable" | Lillard unhappy - KillerLeft - 06-28-2021
https://twitter.com/WorldWideWob/status/1409703635538223104?s=20
RE: AROUND the NBA: McCollum trade "probable" | Lillard unhappy - Hogmelon - 06-28-2021
(06-28-2021, 10:41 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: https://twitter.com/WorldWideWob/status/1409703635538223104?s=20
What a P.O.S. [Beverley].
RE: AROUND the NBA: McCollum trade "probable" | Lillard unhappy - Kammrath - 06-28-2021
(06-28-2021, 10:33 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Clippers staying in this series without Kawhi Leonard and Zubac. I think they would've trounced PHX if they hadn't have lost KL, personally.
LAC was the best team in the West by a decent margin IMO.
I feel good about how Luka performed for 3 quarters through the series....but feel like the Mavs had no business winning games 1-2, thought it was just a fluke with how the role players shot.
RE: AROUND the NBA: McCollum trade "probable" | Lillard unhappy - ClutchDirk - 06-28-2021
(06-28-2021, 10:41 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: https://twitter.com/WorldWideWob/status/1409703635538223104?s=20
Should be punished by the NBA....