(04-05-2021, 08:55 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1378905097741103105


Another chubby white guy that cannot get a call.

Embiid 11.6 FTA
Jokic 4.8 FTA

Luka 7.2 FTA (trending down, less than 5 in march and april)

(04-06-2021, 11:38 AM)HanspardShowerVoice Wrote: Zach Lowe's podcast had on the ESPN beat reporter who covers the Warriors.   Wiseman has been a huge disappointment for them.   They knew he was going to need some time and development, but he's actually regressed as the year has gone along to the point where they can't really even play him.     There is a pretty good likelihood that he won't even be a full time contributor by Year 3.    Sounds to me like they'll definitely try to package him and some picks for a proven player this offseason, because he's not going to be a contributor for them while Curry's window is still open. 

There was a lot of pushback earlier in the year that this wasn't as bad of a draft class as it was made out to be, but I dunno ... I think this draft class is pretty much as advertised.   LaMello was getting a lot of hype, but Charlotte was low key taking him out of games in clutch situations.    This will probably the weakest Rookie of the Year in recent memory.    Edwards will probably win it jacking up a ton of shots and getting accumulative numbers on an awful team.   I think Haliburton is the best player of the class, but hard to come up his highest ceiling comp .. maybe Jrue Holliday?

(04-06-2021, 11:57 AM)dynamicalVoid Wrote: Because of his size and athleticism Wiseman will be good some day.   Its whether you want to pay him while he is learning.  Being the 2nd overall pick means there are expectations because of your high paycheck.

(04-06-2021, 11:38 AM)HanspardShowerVoice Wrote: Zach Lowe's podcast had on the ESPN beat reporter who covers the Warriors.   They went in depth on how Wiseman has been a huge disappointment for them.   They knew he was going to need some time and development, but he's actually regressed as the year has gone along to the point where they can't really even play him.     There is a pretty good likelihood that he won't even be a full time contributor by Year 3.    Sounds to me like they'll definitely try to package him and some picks for a proven player this offseason, because he's not going to be a contributor for them while Curry's window is still open. 

There was a lot of pushback earlier in the year that this wasn't as bad of a draft class as it was made out to be, but I dunno ... I think this draft class is pretty much as advertised.   LaMello was getting a lot of hype, but Charlotte was low key taking him out of games in clutch situations.    This will probably the weakest Rookie of the Year in recent memory.    Edwards will probably win it jacking up a ton of shots and getting accumulative numbers on an awful team.   I think Haliburton is the best player of the class, but hard to come up his highest ceiling comp .. maybe Jrue Holliday?

(04-06-2021, 11:57 AM)dynamicalVoid Wrote: I say the same thing about WCS and get laughed at.   I get it...WCS sucks for his size...but I think if he works a little and isnt super lazy...the game will come to him at some point and at that time he will be able to use his size to contribute.  He is already 25...interesting to see if he figures it out before its too late(age 30 maybe).  

(04-06-2021, 11:57 AM)dynamicalVoid Wrote: It might not be until he is 28 or 29 when the game slows down for him and it clicks...but his size and ability to move should keep him in the league if he is willing to put in some work.

(04-06-2021, 12:36 PM)cow Wrote: WCS has terrible hands and he'll never overcome that.  WCS is 27 and 231 days old.

(04-06-2021, 01:09 PM)dynamicalVoid Wrote: Yeah...I was in the middle of editing that post to say that WCS is a bad example.  He cant dribble, bad hands and is sloppy around the rim(cant make a layup).   I mainly say WCS because people claim he is bad at his defensive assignments...which I think is something that can be overcome if the game slows down for him.  Also...I think if he stays in the league he will be a little more assertive/aggressive with rebounds/playing defensive as he gets older.  Not bullied as much.   But...his offense is bad and he seems absent minded...he probably wont turn it around.

If Wiseman doesnt give up....I could see him turning into a force at like 25-26 years old.   Everyone might be his size by then though...with better fundamentals.

(04-06-2021, 04:59 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: This team is better defensively when Willie plays.

(04-06-2021, 05:05 PM)Kammrath Wrote: He is one of the Mavs better defenders, easily.

(04-06-2021, 05:21 PM)cow Wrote: He can be good when he comes to play but that only occurs once in every five or so appearances.  If he were so good, he wouldn't have collected as many DNPs or games with fewer than 10 minutes of burn.  Stats are great and all but watch him play and you'll see the boneheaded mistakes, how easily he gets pushed around or him fumbling the ball on easy catches.  He's appeared in 35 games and we are 17-18 in those appearances.  Our best defensive run of the season has been without him (through not fault of his own).  He's the epitome of fools gold.

(04-06-2021, 05:32 PM)Kammrath Wrote: He is CONSISTENTLY good on the defensive end (this goes back to last year and RC has admitted as much). But he is often lost and confused on offense. RC has chosen to bypass the benefits of his defense because of his failures on the offensive end. 

The fact is that his DRating when he plays is still better than even this best stretch of Mavs D. 

WCS is a legit NBA team defender. His D is NOT fool's gold.

(04-06-2021, 05:45 PM)cow Wrote: If his defense was consistently good and impactful, he'd average over 15+ minutes in this rotation, even with his offensive woes with second units.  If he was an impactful player he wouldn't have DNPs or a losing record with the team.  Dude shouldn't be in the league.

(04-06-2021, 09:34 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: As Kamm has said, RPM is about literally the very basics of winning or losing basketball - the Mavs scored more points with Willie on the floor, and he made a major impact defensively. 

If WCS shouldn't be in the league, then Melli certainly shouldn't be either.