(09-05-2022, 10:16 PM)F Gump Wrote: Nah, it's not over-correction. It's Cuban finding himself in a new financial reality that he can't handle.

He will pay enough to fund a so-so team. That means spending at the cap, and sometimes a bit more. In that world, mistakes don't matter because the overall spending is easy to justify. But good teams cost way more, and at that level with tax issues, even small mistakes get expensive.

I find it interesting Cuban doesn't demand of himself the same attention to basics he expects from the companies on Shark Tank. If you don't know your business, the uncertainty of how to make it work gets scary. But he has always tried to shortcut the basics with the Mavs, and his continuing refusal to hire an expert at evaluating and negotiating and developing now has him too timid to spend more money, because he can't trust the decision-making on who to sign.

(09-05-2022, 11:14 PM)Jym Wrote: I do find it interesting how freaked out people are with the PG rotation when Dinwiddie is better than the 2021-22 Brunson we were expecting going into the last season. Brunson just totally blew expectations out of the water 
Sure I'd like Conley. That's probably the best bet we have at recreating some of that guard magic from last year without giving up a ton.

I'm most curious how we'll end up using the bigs and how Wood & Maxi are going to end up meshing. I think it's going to be huge for them to play well together and for us to play plenty of big lineups with one PG

(09-05-2022, 11:14 PM)Jym Wrote: I do find it interesting how freaked out people are with the PG rotation when Dinwiddie is better than the 2021-22 Brunson we were expecting going into the last season. Brunson just totally blew expectations out of the water  

(09-06-2022, 02:29 AM)F Gump Wrote: The issue is not Luka-JB vs Luka-SD. If you think it is, that's why you (and others) don't get it. It's about missing a realistic backup for TWO positions.

When the season began a year ago,
PG Luka, JB, Burke, Franky

When last season ended, it was
PG1 - Luka, SD, Burke/Green/Franky
PG2 - JB, SD, Burke/Green/Franky

When this season begins, it will be
PG1 - Luka, ?, ?
PG2 - SD, ?, ?

SD will be replacing JB, obviously. But who will fill the minutes that SD filled last year, backing up BOTH PG1 and PG2? It's a big need, and they don't seem to have a plan to fill it. That should be alarming, because it isn't workable to go through a season without such a key backup.

(09-06-2022, 07:44 AM)Jym Wrote: I feel like it does make more sense rotationwise to have Spencer playing starter minutes but come off the bench so it's easier to stagger.

(09-06-2022, 07:44 AM)Jym Wrote: Yeah no matter what they're saying I feel like it does make more sense rotationwise to have Spencer playing starter minutes but come off the bench so it's easier to stagger. End the game with both PGs but overall play them a lot less together.
And overall your post feels so dramatic since Green and Franky are still on the team. Did you have that much trust in Burke?
Were you begging for an extra PG at this point last year? I don't remember too many people that had it as at a major need.

I just really hope they don't go for the same idea of 2 PGs on the court at all times but with much lesser and more ineffective players unless we pull off a trade. We are going to have to find something different to fit the personnel with all these bigs. Some of them are going to play together

(09-06-2022, 07:44 AM)Jym Wrote: I just really hope they don't go for the same idea of 2 PGs on the court at all times but with much lesser and more ineffective players unless we pull off a trade. We are going to have to find something different to fit the personnel with all these bigs. Some of them are going to play together

(09-06-2022, 08:11 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: This is a good point.    The Mavs are sort of stuck between a rock and a hard spot.  They have a lot of quality players on the roster who deserve minutes while also having a major hole as the third ball handler.   Is it better to sign a veteran who expects 20 plus minutes a night that might cause other issues with the rotation and/or limit young player development?  Or look for a guy to have in case of rest issues or injuries to jump in when needed that allows us to play Hardaway 30 minutes a night while also evaluating the growth of Green and Frankie?

(09-06-2022, 08:11 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: This is a good point.    The Mavs are sort of stuck between a rock and a hard spot.  They have a lot of quality players on the roster who deserve minutes while also having a major hole as the third ball handler.   Is it better to sign a veteran who expects 20 plus minutes a night that might cause other issues with the rotation and/or limit young player development?  Or look for a guy to have in case of rest issues or injuries to jump in when needed that allows us to play Hardaway 30 minutes a night while also evaluating the growth of Green and Frankie?

(09-06-2022, 08:28 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: I don’t see it as them thinking they’re stuck between a rock and a hard place. I see it as a work in progress. This team is built for Donnie and RC, not Nico and Kidd. It was always going to take time to get to the end goal with possible trial and error factored in. Especially given what they came in to work with.

(09-06-2022, 08:41 AM)Jym Wrote: If that part works then we just need a veteran PG who's willing to be buried on the bench the majority of the time but still competent enough to start here and there.

(09-05-2022, 11:14 PM)Jym Wrote: I do find it interesting how freaked out people are with the PG rotation when Dinwiddie is better than the 2021-22 Brunson we were expecting going into the last season. Brunson just totally blew expectations out of the water 
Sure I'd like Conley. That's probably the best bet we have at recreating some of that guard magic from last year without giving up a ton.

I'm most curious how we'll end up using the bigs and how Wood & Maxi are going to end up meshing. I think it's going to be huge for them to play well together and for us to play plenty of big lineups with one PG

(09-06-2022, 08:57 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: I see the goal as to find more two way players.

(09-06-2022, 08:19 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: I don´t see a Utah trade. Bogdanovic and Beasley are expiring. No way you give up a first for them. They are MLE-level next summer due to age or criminal record. Conley is also way past his best. Markkanen and Sexton maybe, but that would reflect so poorly on the Mavs again to acquire Markkanen for a 1st now, when they could have him for nothing 12 months ago.

I wasn´t aware of the brilliant seasons Musa and Vezenkov had overseas, but that could have been two realistic targets.

At this point it feels that everybody left on the market according to spotrac (Bledsoe, Schroeder, Lamb, E. Payton) will have to settle for the minimum. Now it becomes a matter of selling it to the players. On paper we have a good team AND plenty of opportunity.

(09-06-2022, 09:00 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: I think this is always a good goal for any team trying to win. It's an oversimplification, but probably for good reason, as it's easy to forget how important this goal should be. 

The problem is that they haven't added any two-way guys this summer, imo.

(09-06-2022, 08:44 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: Your thinking might go a long way towards explaining why they were only lukewarm on Dragic after losing Brunson. I'm just not sure that plan has much of a chance to be successful. We'll see.

(09-06-2022, 09:11 AM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: Lamb and Elfrid Payton are still available? Am I crazy to far prefer them to Schroeder or the no-longer-plays-defense Bledsoe?

(09-06-2022, 10:34 AM)mvossman Wrote: Man, they both were really bad last year.  Payton can pass, but he had a 40% TS.  That is unbelievably bad.  Lamb was bad too, and I'm not sure he would be any better running an offense than Frank would.  I would have to go with Bledsoe over that group.

(09-06-2022, 08:52 AM)mvossman Wrote: However, It should be pointed out that there was a lot of consternation last offseason regarding 3rd playmaker.  Cuban stated their biggest need was a playmaker with size (which screamed DeRozan or Dinwiddie) and they failed to get anything.  When Luka or Brunson missed time before the TDL, this offense was a shit show without one of them on the court.  It makes it more frustrating because this mistake has already been made once.  Why are they repeating it again?

(09-06-2022, 10:58 AM)F Gump Wrote: Having figured out what they NEED, it's a weird fail that they set their lineup accordingly featuring 2 playmakers as starters, yet fail to fill the position of 3rd playmaker (backup to both PG1 and PG2) that will be a significant part of their rotation needs.