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RE: ROSTER TALK: Maxi out indefinitely | Wood breaks left thumb | Silva to Mavs - Kammrath - 02-05-2023
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RE: ROSTER TALK: Maxi out indefinitely | Wood breaks left thumb | Silva to Mavs - SleepingHero - 02-05-2023
That Bertans deal sticks out like a sore thumb yeeesh.
My first inclination would be to find a way to turn him into any useable win under 20 mil a year, but it's hard to find a deal that makes sense.
RE: ROSTER TALK: Maxi out indefinitely | Wood breaks left thumb | Silva to Mavs - cow - 02-06-2023
(02-05-2023, 11:59 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: That Bertans deal sticks out like a sore thumb yeeesh.
My first inclination would be to find a way to turn him into any useable win under 20 mil a year, but it's hard to find a deal that makes sense.
I think your assets are better spent elsewhere. I'd just leave Bertans as-is and look elsewhere for upgrades/better fits.
RE: ROSTER TALK: Maxi out indefinitely | Wood breaks left thumb | Silva to Mavs - Smitty - 02-06-2023
When is Maxi supposed to be back? His health, with the current roster construction, is vital to the overall success of the team.
Kyrie + Luka + Wood give you all the offense you want
Maxi and Green are real NBA defenders
THJ and Bullock are a coin flip on what you'll get each night
Powell wasn't playable last postseason and McGee isn't an NBA player. I'm not counting on M. Morris for anything.
That gives you a 7-player rotation in the playoffs. Lot of work to do before Thusday if the Mavs are indeed all-in like this Kyrie move indicates.
RE: ROSTER TALK: Maxi out indefinitely | Wood breaks left thumb | Silva to Mavs - Mavs2021 - 02-06-2023
So the biggest question is:
Do you go all-in now?
I´d say Bertans + McGee + Mavs 2027 first top 6 protected for Bamba/Harris is an offer Orlando would accept.
Levert + Pinson + Mavs 2nd round pick to Phoenix
THJ to Cleveland
Crowder/Saric to Dallas
I guess Phoenix won´t do this, but if you do not want to extend Wood, then I´m 100% sure Phoenix does Crowder/Saric for Wood.
New positional roster (I know Irving starts)
Doncic/Irving/Ntilikina
Green/Harris/Hardy
Crowder/Bullock/X
Wood/Kleber/Morris
Bamba/Saric/Powell
Could work.
RE: ROSTER TALK: Maxi out indefinitely | Wood breaks left thumb | Silva to Mavs - BigDirk41 - 02-06-2023
(02-06-2023, 10:00 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: So the biggest question is:I think that's a championship caliber roster if it can be pulled off.
Do you go all-in now?
I´d say Bertans + McGee + Mavs 2027 first top 6 protected for Bamba/Harris is an offer Orlando would accept.
Levert + Pinson + Mavs 2nd round pick to Phoenix
THJ to Cleveland
Crowder/Saric to Dallas
I guess Phoenix won´t do this, but if you do not want to extend Wood, then I´m 100% sure Phoenix does Crowder/Saric for Wood.
New positional roster (I know Irving starts)
Doncic/Irving/Ntilikina
Green/Harris/Hardy
Crowder/Bullock/X
Wood/Kleber/Morris
Bamba/Saric/Powell
Could work.
RE: ROSTER TALK: Maxi out indefinitely | Wood breaks left thumb | Silva to Mavs - mvossman - 02-06-2023
(02-06-2023, 10:00 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: So the biggest question is:
Do you go all-in now?
I´d say Bertans + McGee + Mavs 2027 first top 6 protected for Bamba/Harris is an offer Orlando would accept.
Levert + Pinson + Mavs 2nd round pick to Phoenix
THJ to Cleveland
Crowder/Saric to Dallas
I guess Phoenix won´t do this, but if you do not want to extend Wood, then I´m 100% sure Phoenix does Crowder/Saric for Wood.
New positional roster (I know Irving starts)
Doncic/Irving/Ntilikina
Green/Harris/Hardy
Crowder/Bullock/X
Wood/Kleber/Morris
Bamba/Saric/Powell
Could work.
Mavs don't have any seconds left, so you can't send a second and you can't protect a first. I don't think you can trade Pinson either.
You admit Phoenix wont do that first trade (which we can't do anyways) but put all of Wood/Crowder/Saric in your roster.
RE: ROSTER TALK: Maxi out indefinitely | Wood breaks left thumb | Silva to Mavs - Mavs2021 - 02-06-2023
(02-06-2023, 10:28 AM)mvossman Wrote: Mavs don't have any seconds left, so you can't send a second and you can't protect a first. I don't think you can trade Pinson either.
You admit Phoenix wont do that first trade (which we can't do anyways) but put all of Wood/Crowder/Saric in your roster.
I thought we had one second left? Anyway if the 2027 1st has to be unprotected, you can ask for three 2nd rounders from Orlando back. I´m sure they´d happily do that. That 2027 1st could be the top top pick and is easily worth three 2nd rounders.
I said I guess Phoenix says no, but it´s hard to tell. Crowder and Saric are both expiring and Crowder refuses to play for them. On paper Saric for Levert is a fair trade, but I think Phoenix overrates their position and leverage.
But let´s do it like that now...
Bertans + McGee + 2027 unprotected 1st for Bamba + Harris + three 2nd round picks.
Crowder/Saric to Dallas
THJ to Cleveland
Levert + three 2nd round picks to Phoenix
RE: ROSTER TALK: Maxi out indefinitely | Wood breaks left thumb | Silva to Mavs - Nowitzki Way - 02-06-2023
This hasnt beent talked about much. What do we do with the Morris twin? Does he have anything left.
RE: ROSTER TALK: Maxi out indefinitely | Wood breaks left thumb | Silva to Mavs - Chicagojk - 02-06-2023
(02-06-2023, 11:49 AM)Nowitzki Way Wrote: This hasnt beent talked about much. What do we do with the Morris twin? Does he have anything left.
He certainly hasn't gotten a lot of minutes this year. Cato thought he would get more minutes than McGee for the rest of the year. Take that as you want.
RE: ROSTER TALK: Maxi out indefinitely | Wood breaks left thumb | Silva to Mavs - KillerLeft - 02-06-2023
(02-06-2023, 11:55 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: He certainly hasn't gotten a lot of minutes this year. Cato thought he would get more minutes than McGee for the rest of the year. Take that as you want.
He's the lesser Morris twin, so I don't know his game well. Can he catch-and-shoot? If so, he'll absolutely get minutes.
Heck, if there aren't any more deals, I think he and Bertans are the only healthy 4's on the roster. Think about that!
RE: ROSTER TALK: Maxi out indefinitely | Wood breaks left thumb | Silva to Mavs - Hypermav - 02-06-2023
(02-06-2023, 11:49 AM)Nowitzki Way Wrote: This hasnt beent talked about much. What do we do with the Morris twin? Does he have anything left.
He is a dirty player and I will just have to ignore him on the roster. I hope he gets moved on or dumped.
RE: ROSTER TALK: Maxi out indefinitely | Wood breaks left thumb | Silva to Mavs - Nowitzki Way - 02-06-2023
I dont see a fit for him here. Did we get stuck with him in the negotiations? Or are we they planning on playing him? Not sure what they see there.
RE: ROSTER TALK: Maxi out indefinitely | Wood breaks left thumb | Silva to Mavs - Scott41theMavs - 02-06-2023
Morris the Lesser is shooting 40% from three this year at 10 mpg. He will absolutely get more minutes than McGee. He's better than half the roster we have left, unfortunately. I think you can reasonably pencil him in at around 9th or 10th in the rotation - depending on what other deals we do.
RE: ROSTER TALK: Maxi out indefinitely | Wood breaks left thumb | Silva to Mavs - KillerLeft - 02-06-2023
(02-06-2023, 12:05 PM)Nowitzki Way Wrote: I dont see a fit for him here. Did we get stuck with him in the negotiations? Or are we they planning on playing him? Not sure what they see there.
Again, he is one of only two 4's on the roster, currently. The other is Bertans. I think the "fit" is pretty obvious.
I'm sure Kleber will play that position a ton once he's healthy, as long as the roster stays as is, but my hunch is that Morris is at least able to get himself above Bertans in the pecking order.
RE: ROSTER TALK: Maxi out indefinitely | Wood breaks left thumb | Silva to Mavs - Scott41theMavs - 02-06-2023
Another thing about MTL (my new designation for him) is that having him on roster keeps Luka's ankles safe for two more games a year...
RE: ROSTER TALK: Maxi out indefinitely | Wood breaks left thumb | Silva to Mavs - StrandedOnBeauboisHill - 02-06-2023
Gotta feeling they’re about to start asking Frank to play that same undersized 4 role that DFS was playing unless there’s another move. Will be interesting what happens next.
RE: ROSTER TALK: Maxi out indefinitely | Wood breaks left thumb | Silva to Mavs - dirkfansince1998 - 02-06-2023
Has he recovered from his last encounter with Jokic?
RE: ROSTER TALK: Maxi out indefinitely | Wood breaks left thumb | Silva to Mavs - Scott41theMavs - 02-06-2023
(02-06-2023, 12:11 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Has he recovered from his last encounter with Jokic?
Get into superstars' heads. I guess it means I'm evil, but I like it.
RE: ROSTER TALK: Maxi out indefinitely | Wood breaks left thumb | Silva to Mavs - dirkfansince1998 - 02-06-2023
(02-06-2023, 12:20 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: Get into superstars' heads. I guess it means I'm evil, but I like it.
Missed most of the season with a back/neck injury. Classic case of F around and find out.