(01-06-2023, 01:36 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Well, if Green is as ready for huge minutes as we think, you might be able to fill both holes with ONE high paid player *coughRussellcough*.

Someone who can play off ball like Hardaway and create like Dinwiddie, who is at least in the ballpark, defensively (probably better than Dinwiddie, I bet). Then, throw Green some extra minutes behind them at the 2 and supplement with Hardy. 

I'd be all over that.

(01-06-2023, 02:49 PM)mvossman Wrote: I think I'm out on this one.  Russell falls in the same defensive category as Dinwiddie, bad.  In fact, I'm not sure he is really much different than Dinwiddie.  Din has actually been better off ball than Russell since being a Mav and they are scoring about the same.

Also (and I can't believe I'm saying this) Timmy is the best healthy 3&D player we have right now.  If he continues to play at this elevated defensive level (at least average) he has much more value to this team.  I still think he probably makes the most sense outgoing (although I could see a strong argument for sending out Din if the incoming is a quality playmaker) but in either case I think it needs to be a legit two way player or we are not moving the needle enough.

(01-06-2023, 03:23 PM)F Gump Wrote: D-Lo for Hardaway/McGee?

Sure I'd do that deal. And D-Lo might only be a rental.

But I doubt Minny would. I suspect they would hope to find someone to offer "expiring plus a pick" and this isn't giving them any of that. What will be interesting is what happens if they still have him when his contract expires, and then what do they do.

(01-06-2023, 03:23 PM)F Gump Wrote: What will be interesting is what happens if they still have him when his contract expires, and then what do they do.

(01-06-2023, 02:53 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Honestly, I'd try to do it for only one of Hardaway/Dinwiddie, not both, along with whatever you have to give up (which hopefully isn't much). 

But, it seems like I have a higher opinion of Russell than you do. I certainly agree he's not a perfect player, but I feel like he's the best of the Russell, Hardaway, Dinwiddie trio and the one I'd pick first if given the choice. Just my opinion. I think he's having a bad season, but so was Dinwiddie at this time last year, at least according to the streets. I think the chaos that the Gobert trade has caused in Minnesota is poised for exploitation, personally, and since there's no way they're getting Edwards or KAT...Russell looks like opportunity (that the Mavs can afford) to me.

(01-06-2023, 03:59 PM)mvossman Wrote: He probably is the best of the three, but his AAV is over 10 mil more than those guys and I'm not sure they are that far apart.

(01-06-2023, 01:56 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Bembry- was an average wing but could rebound and defend. He's a good hustle guy should they want wing depth.

Lamb- can actually score off the bench and even distribute some. His defense is terrible. Not a bad look though if they just want more reliable bench scoring.

Cousins- Please get McGee off this team and replace him with Cousins. 

Anthony- Again vet scoring. He can't defend, but is he much worse than Bertans at this point? He can hit threes pretty good too. 

All in all none of those names are ones I'm chomping at the bit for. I can make a case for almost all of them to get a run on the bench given how sorry our rotation is.

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It's funny because I'd choose Dinwiddie every single time if I had the choice.

Dinwiddie can handle the ball, distribute, AND score. Hardaway is a streaky catch and shoot 3pt guy. 

We need dynamic players. THJ is not that.

(01-06-2023, 03:29 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: He's expiring, likely never wanted to be there in the first place

(01-06-2023, 03:29 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: I do think Russell is getting traded at the deadline (especially now that I know he's expiring) and I doubt there will be a huge bidding war for him

(01-07-2023, 11:54 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: Not sure, I truly buy this but a case can be made that Bullock is hurt the most not having a really good second creator on the roster.

(01-06-2023, 04:16 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: I wonder if the Mavs would explore a Center?  If McGee is not playable, I wonder if you try out a guy like Whiteside???

(01-06-2023, 04:16 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: I wonder if the Mavs would explore a Center?  If McGee is not playable, I wonder if you try out a guy like Whiteside???

(01-07-2023, 11:54 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: Not sure, I truly buy this but a case can be made that Bullock is hurt the most not having a really good second creator on the roster.

https://twitter.com/iztok_franko/status/1611756885912190978?s=61&t=AThspt4hO96AGZ8DzFlZfw

(01-07-2023, 11:57 AM)Kammrath Wrote: Yeah, Iztok's takes are not "gospel" by any means. He is hit or miss like all of us.

(01-07-2023, 05:53 PM)sefant Wrote: I don't know, i guess its also the type of guys he defends. Tatum is kinda "slow" compared to speedy guards. Thats the same type of guys that DFS usually defends. Bigger more crafty forwards.

I think his defensive mechanics are still somehow ok, but he is being used as point of attack defender guarding the matchups with the most foot speed most of the time.

And if you can't keep those guys infront, you have a problem and the team defense has a problem. Getting blown by once in a while happens to every defender, but not at an alarming rate.

(01-07-2023, 10:13 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: if they can get Wood under contract and just avoid the temptation of trading Green or Hardy they might have something. Those three, along with Luka, DFS and Kleber, need to be in the plans moving forward.

(01-07-2023, 10:30 PM)Kammrath Wrote: FIFY

(01-07-2023, 10:32 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Your assessment that they are suddenly bad players isn’t going to fly with me

(01-07-2023, 10:34 PM)Kammrath Wrote: That's not my assessment at all.