(11-06-2020, 04:23 PM)Mavsfan12 Wrote:

(11-06-2020, 03:55 PM)Kammrath Wrote:

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https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/1324451447845638145

Mavs, please find a way to get this dude.


With the 18th pick in the draft, the mavericks select Immanuel Quickley!

(11-06-2020, 05:44 PM)LukaDrive Wrote:

(11-06-2020, 04:23 PM)Mavsfan12 Wrote:

(11-06-2020, 03:55 PM)Kammrath Wrote:

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https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/1324451447845638145

Mavs, please find a way to get this dude.


With the 18th pick in the draft, the mavericks select Immanuel Quickley!

Quote:Townsend's report included another important nugget: the Mavericks want to move into the lottery. They have the ammunition to do so. They're close enough as it is at No. 18. Golden State's second-round pick is arguably more valuable than a late first-round pick, as it is not subject to the rookie scale. If absolutely necessary, they do have tradeable future first-round pick in the bank: their 2027 selection, which is the only choice available thanks to the Stepien Rule's interpretation of the protections on that 2023 pick. Throw in a player or two and the Mavericks should have some options here. The question is how high they can go. 

No. 8 is probably the ceiling, if the Knicks are still even willing to deal with them after the backlash from the Porzingis trade. The New York Post's Marc Berman has reported that they are open to moving down. They'd probably love to get their hands on Curry as well, given the lack of shooting around RJ Barrett and Mitchell Robinson. That is unlikely, but a picks-based trade is plausible here, especially if Dallas is willing to remove the protections on the 2023 pick they already owe New York. 

Phoenix at No. 10 is rumored to be preserving cap space. A trade down might make sense, especially if they're targeting one of the many 3-and-D players in this class. 

Sacramento has lost so much draft capital in recent years that moving down from No. 12 to recoup some of it makes some sense for new GM Monte McNair. 

Who would Dallas target in the lottery? Their roster construction would point to another 3-and-D wing. Both Florida State wings, Devin Vassell and Patrick Williams, fit the bill, and they, along with Isaac Okoro, are the players in that group that Dallas would probably need to move up for. Players like Aaron Nesmith, Desmond Bane, Josh Green and Saddiq Bey all make sense, but the Mavericks could probably get one of them at No. 18. 

The wildcard names to watch here would be the big men. Damian Lillard exposed Porzingis' weaknesses on the perimeter so thoroughly in the bubble that a look at Onyeka Okongwu might be warranted. Obi Toppin would be not only a replacement for Powell, but an all-around offensive upgrade. But both come with weaknesses Dallas probably isn't interested in covering up, and both would become redundant on a Giannis team. Expect them to settle for one of the 3-and-D wings wherever they land based purely on need. Their trade options are significantly more complicated.

Quote:Sunday marks the deadline to withdraw from the NBA draft, and a handful of international players have reached their decisions. The date doesn’t affect college players because the NCAA set an Aug. 3 deadline for players to remove their names from the draft and retain their eligibility.

• Lithuanian guard [b]Arnas Velicka[/b] has decided to take his name out of the draft, tweets Nicola Lupo of Sportando. Velicka currently plays in France.
  
  
• Belgian guard [b]Joel Ekamba[/b] is skipping this year’s draft, a source tells Lupo. The 19-year-old also plays in France.
  
  
• [b]Brancou “Papi” Badio[/b] of Senegal has decided to withdraw, according to Lupo. The 21-year-old guard is playing his first season on the senior team for FC Barcelona.
  
  
• Also removing his name from the draft is Greek guard [b]Nikos Rogkavopoulos[/b], Lupo adds. Rogkavopoulos is playing this season with AEK Athens.
  
  
• Greek shooting guard [b]Georgios Kalaitzakis[/b] is withdrawing, agent Marius Rutkauskas confirmed to Lithuanian basketball writer Donatas Urbonas (Twitter link). Kalaitzakis is ranked 90th on ESPN’s list of the top 100 prospects.
  
  
• Lithuanian center [b]Marek Blazevic[/b] is pulling out of the draft, sources tell Urbonas (Twitter link). He currently plays for  Zalgiris Kaunas of the Lithuanian Basketball League.
  
  
• Deciding to remain in the draft is [b]Adrian Bogucki[/b], a 20-year-old center from Poland, according to Lupo. The 7’1″ Bogucki is playing in Poland and has been part of the U16, U18 and U20 Polish national teams.
  

Quote:NBA Draft 2020

MIN has been aggressively trying to move down while over aggressively wanting to get the most for their buck. They have made it clear they want a future 2021 1st from a team they think will be a lottery team next year and yes, Atlanta is one of them. No one has bit. That may change. They really want in for 2021 but they want a high-quality pick. They are not willing to move back for GS own 2021 1st. The value of the 2021 1st round pick is seen as extremely high.

They are targeting teams they believe will be lottery teams. Ball seems to be the player they are targeting the most mainly due to trade value. There is a chance Ball could be the pick and he would not play a min in MIN.

[b]NEW[/b]: This is probably the biggest deal on this list. This is hot off the presser. Jrue Holiday has become the target and there is a lot of interest from New Orleans and MIN. The only thing is Jrue must be willing to sign an extension as soon as he’s eligible which they (the NBA) are working on the date atm.
His extension could be nearing max range which will mean MIN has three max players under contract. The question is, does it make sense for MIN to have three max guys and still you have questions if this is a playoff team. There is a lot more to this potential deal than what I currently have so keep a look out for this deal.

This also highlights what I been hearing from NO of them looking for PG’s and seeing Lonzo Ball as a quick passing guard like Haliburton is getting seen as. Lonzo is Melo ying to Melo’s yang. This is big news.

GS has been doing the same as MIN but a lot more open to pick swap and higher end young player than MIN. GS is really pushing for a deal with CHI, CLE, DET, and ATL. CHI just lacks all interest as does CLE. As I’ve mention, the name that has been mention has been Kevin Huerter. For CLE, Collin Sexton and from CHI, Lauri M and L. Kennard from DET. If they stay, they could go in so many directions. Wiseman is NOT a lock is what I just recently got.
[b]NEW[/b]:
 
GS knows three things right now is what he directly got for GS.
1.      The talent in this draft is very good even if the players are not there yet or even close.
2.      No one in this draft will start next year for them.
3.      The biggest need is depth, and their biggest issue is salary.

As mentioned already, they are targeted trading back to add depth, but they do like the talent @2 if they cannot get the players they covet. Golden State likes Ball, Wiseman, Deni, and Edwards the most. They also like Haliburton, Hayes, Bey, Toppin, and Okongwu. He told me today to not be surprised if GS moved back twice as he feels GS been extremely aggressive even more of late for the draft. GS only position where they like their depth in at PF. There is a lot of interest in a trade down with both ATL and DET. Especially ATL due to Kevin Huerter contract (2 years – rookie deal).

CHA has been the most likely of the top 5 teams to keep their pick but even they are looking at all options. If Wiseman is here, expect him to be the pick but Okongwu and Toppin also have a case.

[b]NEW[/b]: The presumption is Wiseman will be the pick. There has been talk of Okongwu being the pick over Ball, but he thinks that’s smoke. Okongwu has been making major inroads to the point he is the top guy on DET board now.  

CHI is the team that MOST wants to move down between the 6-9 range and have been in talks with NY, WAS, ATL, and DET to move down on salary relief. It is clear they want a PG more than anything but would consider more than anything.

[b]NEW:[/b] He basically said he is hearing that Hayes or Haliburton is the choice here. Especially Hali if they want to start either with LaVine or White. He also said this could be Okongwu trade lane if you are willing to pay a major premium (14th overall pick swap, #26, with a lottery protected Boston 2021 1st).  Atlanta has not been open to moving up to #4 for the price CHI wants.

CLE is fine with staying at 5 as they are down to three players: Deni, Okoro, Vassell are all players they are targeting. The lean here is Deni from what is being said but there is serious interest in Okoro as well. That opens the door for trades if they can get one that sensible. Cleveland wants to be aggressive this year in FA which is unusual for a rebuilding team. They are target resigning and they want extend Drummond.

ATL is the main chess piece on the board due to them not having any major needs while having a win now mindset but wanting to get the best player long term. Within the org, you got some that want Atlanta to move up to get Ball, Edwards, and even some for Wiseman.
You also have those who want Atlanta to trade back and add a quality rotational vet and a pick swap. No key player is available for #6 that is not a rental and Atlanta does not want a rental for this pick, which is different than a month ago, but Gordon Hayward was not in the picture back then. Because of Hayward, Atlanta could go any direction in this draft. Up, Down, or Stay. If they stay: Hayes, Deni, Obi, Okongwu, and Okoro are the targets. Due to Hayward, I personally think moving up might be their move.

[b]NEW:[/b] Okongwu seems to be slipping but the others seem to be the targets at #6. If anyone is starting to get more of a late push, it is Killian Hayes. When there is such a wide net that is cast so close to the draft, that usually means this team is prime to move down. In this case, Atlanta could go any direction. This is another Okongwu trade zone with a cheaper cost than #4. There is a good chance we do not know who the final team at this spot is like #4 last year.

DET is targeting PGs but Ball is their top guy. They really are not interested in the cost to move up for him from MIN and would rather move a key young player and pick swap for Ball aka GS. They also love Wiseman as well. Okongwu is also on their board. They are looking at a lot of things for trades but moving down is not that high unless all their guys are gone. If there is a team that is willing to move up to 1st overall, it is Detroit, but the price might be too steep.

[b]NEW:[/b] Okongwu is their top guy right now. After that, PGs like Lewis Jr, Hayes, and Haliburton are in the convo. DET is a team that could be on the move up. Especially considering #6 could be Okongwu land after trades.

NY really does not mind moving up to eat salary, but they are not interested in trading picks. They want to keep #27 and they want to keep all their future 1st rounders.

[b]NEW:[/b] NY is a difficult read. So many guys appear on their radar like Williams, Maxey, and others while the typical guys who are already in this range are also here. Remember what I said about a wide casted net. He said to me, he does not know what NY is going to do at all. This could be a trade up spot for a PG of your choice depending on the actions of others. Many have locked them into Obi Toppin, but I would not be too sure to do that either. Thibs is going to take the best Thibs player. Personally speaking, I think Vassell will be the pick. He is the most Thibs player in this draft aside from Okoro.

WAS is all in on Okongwu. They have even made a solid offer to Atlanta where we would get Troy Brown Jr. and a 2nd rounder. This has been considered very appealing to Atlanta depending how the board falls. If they do not land Okongwu, expect this to be a trade back hot spot. There are still players on the board teams are targeting where moving up will be extremely intriguing.

PHX is hoping Killian Hayes drops to them but if he does not, Kira Lewis Jr. could be the pick at this spot. PHX is clearly looking at PGs. It was assumed they were all in for FVV, but it seems like the interest has dampened as well as their interest in moving Oubre.
 
My top 10 mock without trades:
1.      MIN – Ball
2.      GS – Wiseman
3.      CHA – Edwards
4.      CHI – Haliburton
5.      CLE – Deni
6.      ATL – Toppin
7.      DET – Okongwu
8.      NYK – Vassell
9.      WAS – Achiuwa
10.   PHX – Hayes
 
My top 10 mock with trades:
1.      MIN (NO) – Ball – Holiday for Ball and salary filler.
2.      GS (ATL) – Edwards – Huerter and 6 for #2.
3.      CHA – Wiseman
4.      CHI – Haliburton
5.      CLE – Deni
6.      ATL (WAS) – Okongwu – Troy Brown Jr., #9, #37 for 6
7.      DET – Hayes
8.      NYK – Okoro
9.      WAS (GS) – Toppin
10.   PHX – Kira Lewis Jr.

(11-07-2020, 08:23 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: If he’s right about Minnesota demanding a 2021 lottery pick for this year’s #1, I think they’re dreaming.

(11-08-2020, 01:58 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Is anyone interested in Frank N and #8 for Curry/18 and 31?

(11-08-2020, 10:10 AM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Just a quick question because I saw some mock drafts that have Wiseman dropping out of the top 5. He was the undisputed 1st overall pick prior to the NCAA drama but not playing any competitive basketball for more than a year obviously hurt his draft stock. Where do you guys rank him and would you be willing to trade up for him?

(11-08-2020, 01:58 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Is anyone interested in Frank N and #8 for Curry/18 and 31?

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• There’s increasing chatter around the league that former Memphis center [b]James Wiseman[/b] is the most likely No. 1 pick, according to Jonathan Wasserman of Bleacher Report. Sources tell Wasserman that some Golden State officials believe Wiseman will be selected first, whether the Timberwolves keep their pick or not. Sources also say the [b]Hornets[/b] “want Wiseman badly” and are interested in trading up to get him.
  
  
• [b]Warriors[/b] ownership may put pressure on the front office to select [b]LaMelo Ball[/b] with the second pick if Wiseman is off the board, Wasserman adds in the same story. A source close to the team claims Ball has supporters and detractors in the front office. Golden State remains in the market to trade down, with [b]Deni Avdija[/b] and [b]Devin Vassell [/b]as possible targets.
  

(11-08-2020, 01:58 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Is anyone interested in Frank N and #8 for Curry/18 and 31?

(11-08-2020, 02:19 PM)chaparral Wrote: Haliburton

Quote:In a draft full of uncertain prospects, Iowa State’s [b]Tyrese Haliburton[/b] may be the safest pick, writes Steve Popper of Newsday. Haliburton offers good size for a point guard at 6’5″ with a 6’9″ wingspan. He’s also an elite passer, an effective shooter and has natural leadership qualities.


[i]“I’ve had a lot of No. 1, No. 2 picks, and this guy is a difference maker,”[/i] said Joe Abunassar, who trained Haliburton at Impact Basketball in Las Vegas after the season was shut down.[i] “As teams look at him, part of that is his approach, his mentality, his personality. Everyone steps up their game when he steps in the game. He’s the most humble guy. I know with him, what you’re getting is a guy that’s going to win games for your franchise.”[/i]

Abunasser said Haliburton has gotten stronger since the college basketball season ended, adding roughly 15 to 18 pounds to his frame. With so many lottery teams needing a point guard, he could go higher than projected on draft night.

[i]“He’s a winner. He has an amazing personality,” [/i]Abunassar added.[i] “He’s contagious. He’s something that if I was a GM, I’d say we need guys like that.”[/i]

(11-08-2020, 02:32 PM)Kammrath Wrote:

(11-08-2020, 02:19 PM)chaparral Wrote: Haliburton

Quote:In a draft full of uncertain prospects, Iowa State’s [b]Tyrese Haliburton[/b] may be the safest pick, writes Steve Popper of Newsday. Haliburton offers good size for a point guard at 6’5″ with a 6’9″ wingspan. He’s also an elite passer, an effective shooter and has natural leadership qualities.


[i]“I’ve had a lot of No. 1, No. 2 picks, and this guy is a difference maker,”[/i] said Joe Abunassar, who trained Haliburton at Impact Basketball in Las Vegas after the season was shut down.[i] “As teams look at him, part of that is his approach, his mentality, his personality. Everyone steps up their game when he steps in the game. He’s the most humble guy. I know with him, what you’re getting is a guy that’s going to win games for your franchise.”[/i]

Abunasser said Haliburton has gotten stronger since the college basketball season ended, adding roughly 15 to 18 pounds to his frame. With so many lottery teams needing a point guard, he could go higher than projected on draft night.

[i]“He’s a winner. He has an amazing personality,” [/i]Abunassar added.[i] “He’s contagious. He’s something that if I was a GM, I’d say we need guys like that.”[/i]

(11-08-2020, 01:58 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Is anyone interested in Frank N and #8 for Curry/18 and 31?

(11-08-2020, 02:19 PM)chaparral Wrote:

(11-08-2020, 01:58 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Is anyone interested in Frank N and #8 for Curry/18 and 31?

I'm in on a chance to get Haliburton or Vassell w/the 8th pick.