(11-03-2020, 12:21 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: I think it says more that picks in *this* draft don't have so much move-up value.

(11-03-2020, 12:21 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: "The Celtics have offered their three first-round picks (nos. 14, 26 and 30) in trades to try and move up, according to multiple league sources. So far, no one is biting.

(11-03-2020, 12:32 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: I think they're trying to trade off the pick AND dump Wiggins, only so far, nobody has agreed to take Wiggins.

(11-03-2020, 12:44 PM)Kammrath Wrote:

(11-03-2020, 12:32 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: I think they're trying to trade off the pick AND dump Wiggins, only so far, nobody has agreed to take Wiggins.

No question this is the kind of thing GSW would want, in addition to guys who can contribute NOW.



I think we are also WAY too far out for any trades to be agreed to. Teams are feeling each other out and trying to get the best deal they can.

Deadlines make deals. The deadline is still 15 days away.

I think when all is said and done, deals will happen and I think trading up in this draft will prove to be relatively cheap compared to most years.


P.S. I think #2+Wiggins fits the Mavs narrative of willing to take on bad money for a star....IF the Mavs have a guy identified in this draft as that. And for those who would balk at Wiggins contract, it is way cheaper than Tobias. I personally would pull the trigger on #2+Wiggins (depending on what is going the other way) and I would take Hayes at #2. But that's just me.

Quote:Texas Tech guard [b]Jahmi’us Ramsey[/b] and Kentucky guard [b]Immanuel Quickley[/b] are among the prospects whom the [b]Heat[/b] have reached out to about potential in-person workouts, according to Barry Jackson of The Miami Herald.


The club only holds the No. 20 pick in this month’s draft, but is doing plenty of homework on the players who could be options in that range — Ramsey is the 35th prospect on ESPN’s big board, while Quickley – who has interviewed with Miami twice, per Jackson – ranks 42nd.

As Jackson details, the Heat have also “taken a look” at Washington forwards [b]Jaden McDaniels[/b] and [b]Isaiah Stewart[/b], who are 23rd and 27th on ESPN’s board. Additionally, Miami has called to speak to Kentucky guard [b]Ashton Hagans[/b], who is ranked just 68th by ESPN. Hagans would likely only be an option for the Heat if they acquire a second-round pick or if he goes undrafted, Jackson notes.

The Heat were also expected to view group workouts for Minnesota big man [b]Daniel Oturu[/b] (No. 37 on ESPN) and Arizona guard [b]Nico Mannion[/b] (No. 25), writes Jackson. And as our JD Shaw reported on Monday, College of Charleston guard [b]Grant Riller[/b] has interviewed with Miami as well.

(11-03-2020, 01:22 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: Why would the Warriors be willing to strip away so much talent when they're competing for a championship?

Quote:I have Tyler Bey slotted as a wing but you can make the case of him projecting as a small big. I am a bit concerned about where he fits at the next level. But one thing is certain, he is going to bring immediate defensive versatility. Bey’s tape screams of high defensive IQ. At a 43.5″ vertical, you can sprinkle an element of rim protection to his game as well.

Bey was frequently used as a post up big in Colorado. I do not see that as his path in the NBA. I do like his potential as a rim runner. Bey is super active off the ball, and finished in the 88th percentile among possessions near the rim (per Synergy). His passing vision, defensive potential and explosiveness should warrant a late first round pick. But we will have to see if teams will overlook his scoring shortcomings.

Quote:Ty-Shon Alexander is flying under the radar and it is about time the draft world takes notice. He is one of the draft’s best point of attack defenders. Some of what made Lu Dort a household name was his length and ability to shuffle his feet against James Harden. Alexander is not as stout physically, but mirrors Dort in length. Alexander’s exceptional shuttle time is a strong indicator of his lateral quickness translating in similar fashion.

I also love the shot making potential off the catch. Alexander ranked in the 77th percentile in all catch and shoot possessions (per Synergy). He has a high release point that should translate in the pros. Now, do not expect much of him on the ball. Alexander is not an explosive downhill player. The vertical numbers validate the film. Just give him the tough defensive assignments and let him thrive as a shooting outlet. This is a good combine for Alexander, who is likely to slot in the middle of the second round.

(11-03-2020, 01:22 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: Even Curry/Maxi/DFS/18/31/'25 probably doesn't get it done

(11-03-2020, 01:55 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: giving away both 2 and Wiggins for minimal talent

(11-03-2020, 05:46 PM)cow Wrote: Wiggins to the Mavs?

(11-03-2020, 07:05 PM)Kammrath Wrote:

(11-03-2020, 05:46 PM)cow Wrote: Wiggins to the Mavs?

Just a theoretical. 

If two years ago the Mavs would have had to take on Wiggins to get the #3 pick to get Luka would you have done it?

(11-03-2020, 07:27 PM)cow Wrote: At the time, no.  Is there a Luka in this draft?

(11-03-2020, 07:34 PM)Kammrath Wrote:

(11-03-2020, 07:27 PM)cow Wrote: At the time, no.  Is there a Luka in this draft?

I do not think there is a Luka, but I am REALLY high on Killian Hayes. 

My only point in asking the question is to at least hold out the possibility that if the Mavs LOVE someone in this draft (like they did Luka) then it might make sense to take on Wiggins to get that guy. That is all I was proposing. If the Mavs scouts don't think there is a star in this draft then "HELL NO" to Wiggins.

(11-03-2020, 11:39 AM)Kammrath Wrote:

(11-03-2020, 11:32 AM)DanSchwartzman Wrote: I kind of doubt the plan would be for Nesmith to immediately replace someone.  But, a year from now...

I’ve seen Tim Cato (I think) talk about the need to draft a SG.  THe theory is THJ may or may not still be here a month and certainly not a season from now.  If you take his salary to fill another position, Curry is all you have left at SG.  He’s 30 and gets hurt fairly regularly.  So, Nesmith fits as third in line there...now...and could easily move up a slot or two over time.

Great points.

If THJ is being moved for any reason this year OR next and you aren't immediately replacing him with a SG, then again a Nesmith type becomes a HUGE need.