(11-02-2020, 02:38 PM)Kammrath Wrote: This feels like fan, arm-chair GM overthinking.

Quote:Point guard [b]Grant Riller[/b] has intrigued multiple teams as a prospect with high upside ahead of the 2020 NBA draft, a source told Hoops Rumors.


Riller’s crafty ability to score — particularly around the rim — has helped him become a projected early-second round pick. Some league observers have even placed the 23-year-old at the end of the first round. He has already interviewed with teams such as the [b]Heat[/b] (No. 20), [b]Sixers[/b] (No. 21), [b]Nuggets[/b] (No. 22), and [b]Lakers[/b] (No. 28) and [b]Raptors[/b] (No. 29).

Riller, who spent four seasons at the College of Charleston and recorded a 39.5″ max vertical last week, averaged 21.9 points per game in his final two years with the school. He shot 51.9% from the floor and 34.4% from downtown during those campaigns, connecting on 63% of his attempts around the basket on non-post ups during his collegiate career.

Riller remains one of the only seniors who could be selected in the first round of the draft

Quote:What type of trade would make sense for both parties if the Wizards gave up the No. 9 pick for an established player? Fred Katz of The Athletic takes an in-depth look into that scenario, suggesting players such as [b]Luke Kennard[/b], [b]Larry Nance[/b] Jr., [b]Josh Okogie[/b] and [b]Derrick White[/b] could fit the bill. Washington is hoping for a playoff run with the return of [b]John Wall[/b] next season, which makes it sensible to deal the pick for more immediate help.


We have more on the Wizards:

• In another take on the draft, Tyler Byrum and Chase Hughes of NBC Sports Washington unveil a mock draft in which the Wizards trade down. In this instance, Washington does business with Boston to pick up two first-rounders later in this draft plus a young player.
  

(11-02-2020, 01:09 PM)burekemde Wrote:

(11-02-2020, 10:21 AM)Kammrath Wrote:

(11-02-2020, 10:11 AM)burekemde Wrote: To me, S. Bey really stands out for the mid range game

Here is SBey's shot chart (his midrange game is really bad even though he does it a lot):

Is this based on last season or in total? These numbers should be taken with caution like all stats should. I am also referring more to how he can score in what situations.

This also depends on the situation and if one shoots as covered up mid range, or an open mid range shot. In the end, watching to understand if he can do or not is more important IMO. 

With S. Bey, this is most often where he is covered, posting someone up and getting the shot off, one on one, this is what I find most thrilling about his game, more than his 3 point or inside game. 

Its like people that say Luka cant shoot 3s that he is terrible. They do not account that he does it in the most difficult imaginable situations, where defense cant do anything about, where he is covered, and stepping back. If he was shooting open 3 point shots every game, multiple times, his stats would look different obviously.

Sadiq can take the midrange game in a well covered defense and score. Due to his strength and size, this has more chance to translate IMO.

(11-02-2020, 09:18 PM)Kammrath Wrote: suggesting players such as [b]Luke Kennard[/b], [b]Larry Nance[/b] Jr., [b]Josh Okogie[/b] and [b]Derrick White[/b] could fit the bill.

(11-03-2020, 05:04 AM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Starting to think that this might be the golden opportunity to add more picks or move up. The value of picks in this years draft seems to be at an alltime low. Maybe the draft class is just really bad. Maybe teams aren´t confident because we had no NCAA tournament or the usual pre draft workouts/combines. Most of the time the difference in quality is more about the top picks and not the mid/late 1st or 2nd round. Gambling on those picks might be worth it.
I think Kamm already mentioned it. Zigging when everyone else is zagging. Not the usual Mavs approach but with the limited amount of assets it could be the best option.

(11-03-2020, 05:04 AM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Starting to think that this might be the golden opportunity to add more picks or move up. The value of picks in this years draft seems to be at an alltime low. Maybe the draft class is just really bad. Maybe teams aren´t confident because we had no NCAA tournament or the usual pre draft workouts/combines. Most of the time the difference in quality is more about the top picks and not the mid/late 1st or 2nd round. Gambling on those picks might be worth it.

(11-03-2020, 06:18 AM)omahen Wrote: Basically you are drafting a very similar level of player at pick number 4 or pick number 12.

(11-03-2020, 09:41 AM)DanSchwartzman Wrote: The Ringer's (Kevin O'Connor) mock has us taking Aaron Nesmith at 18.  This rings true to me and is now my fearless prediction.

Quote:The Mavericks were stuck with Seth Curry defending Kawhi Leonard in the playoffs on far too many occasions. Nesmith could help by providing another wing defender, and he’s one of the best shooters in the class.

(11-03-2020, 09:56 AM)Kammrath Wrote: HOWEVER, my question is this: Are they willing to trade up into the lottery to get him? Is he the guy (or one of the guys) they want to move up to ensure they get?

(11-03-2020, 11:02 AM)omahen Wrote: I just have a hard time seeing a team in 12-15 range that would be willing to trade down with us for #18+#31

(11-03-2020, 09:56 AM)Kammrath Wrote:

(11-03-2020, 09:41 AM)DanSchwartzman Wrote: The Ringer's (Kevin O'Connor) mock has us taking Aaron Nesmith at 18.  This rings true to me and is now my fearless prediction.

I think O'Connor tends to have sources so I do NOT think he connects guys to teams just arbitrarily like so many mock drafts. 

The Mavs taking Nesmith at #18 wouldn't surprise me and I would love that pick. 

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O'Connor's note on Mavs taking Nesmith:

Quote:The Mavericks were stuck with Seth Curry defending Kawhi Leonard in the playoffs on far too many occasions. Nesmith could help by providing another wing defender, and he’s one of the best shooters in the class.

Him mentioning Seth Curry in the same breath as drafting Nesmith makes me wonder if Curry will be on the move this offseason. You definitely need to take someone like Nesmith if you are using Curry as a trade chip.

(11-03-2020, 11:32 AM)DanSchwartzman Wrote: I kind of doubt the plan would be for Nesmith to immediately replace someone.  But, a year from now...

I’ve seen Tim Cato (I think) talk about the need to draft a SG.  THe theory is THJ may or may not still be here a month and certainly not a season from now.  If you take his salary to fill another position, Curry is all you have left at SG.  He’s 30 and gets hurt fairly regularly.  So, Nesmith fits as third in line there...now...and could easily move up a slot or two over time.

(11-03-2020, 12:21 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: This is from the Hoopshype rumor crawl, so take it for what it's worth, but:

"The Celtics have offered their three first-round picks (nos. 14, 26, and 30) in trades to try and move up, according to multiple league sources. So far, no one is biting. If the Celtics stay here, Hampton would make sense because he could serve as a spark-plug scorer off the bench. If Gordon Hayward were to leave Boston, secondary shot creation would be needed sooner rather than later."

Not sure that paints the "moving up is super cheap" narrative we were all hoping for. Could be BS though.