2021 FREE AGENCY: Markkanen wants out of CHI | DAL "definitely interested" - Printable Version +- MavsBoard (https://www.mavsboard.com) +-- Forum: Boards (https://www.mavsboard.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=1) +--- Forum: Dallas Mavericks and the NBA (https://www.mavsboard.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=2) +--- Thread: 2021 FREE AGENCY: Markkanen wants out of CHI | DAL "definitely interested" (/showthread.php?tid=1072) Pages:
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RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL moving on from Lowry | Markkannen wants DAL? - wmffl87 - 08-02-2021 (08-02-2021, 02:01 PM)Kammrath Wrote: 4 yrs/$60M is a STEAL for RH IMO. With $33.5 million in cap space (before WCS), Dallas could probably get Holmes AND still have $17-18 million left over. Fournier + Holmes wouldn't have been bad. I'm not a fan of picking up the WCS options unless the Mavs already have some other grand plans worked out. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL moving on from Lowry | Markkannen wants DAL? - Kammrath - 08-02-2021 https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1422274739473690625 RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL moving on from Lowry | Markkannen wants DAL? - Kammrath - 08-02-2021 https://twitter.com/TheHoopCentral/status/1422274946076594176 RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL moving on from Lowry | Markkannen wants DAL? - cow - 08-02-2021 (08-02-2021, 02:15 PM)Kammrath Wrote: https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1422274739473690625 RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL moving on from Lowry | Markkannen wants DAL? - KillerLeft - 08-02-2021 (08-02-2021, 02:15 PM)Kammrath Wrote: https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1422274739473690625 Kind of hilarious, because he represents himself, so he's obviously the source here. I wonder if this is legit. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL moving on from Lowry | Markkannen wants DAL? - F Gump - 08-02-2021 Kammrath4 yrs/$60M is a STEAL for RH IMO. Hollinger's latest - not his theoretical analysis, but his look at the landscape - is that Homes could get squeezed by lack of suitors with money, and he opines that he could see RH "returning to Sacramento on an “Early Bird” deal for $11 million." That fits with reports they are offering him 4/50M. Does that leave the door ajar for a possible opportunity at a number north of 50 but maybe not quite 60? What's your analysis of the defensive comparison between Holmes and Portis? Most importantly, is it significant enough to outweigh the stretch element that Portis can offer, to a Luka-led offense? It sure seems to me that, in an ideal world, the Mavs would be well-served to replace DP with Holmes (similar rim-runner O game), and KP with Portis (similar stretchy O game), and give them each 55-60M deals over 4 yrs in which you kinda get the same roles filled by way more cost-efficient options. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL moving on from Lowry | Markkannen wants DAL? - TXBamanut - 08-02-2021 I would love to have Portis. 3 point shooting Rebounding Toughness Energy and vocal leadership That's a lot of boxes that we haven't checked yet. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL moving on from Lowry | Markkannen wants DAL? - KillerLeft - 08-02-2021 (08-02-2021, 02:18 PM)F Gump Wrote: It sure seems to me that, in an ideal world, the Mavs would be well-served to replace DP with Holmes (similar rim-runner O game), and KP with Portis (similar stretchy O game), and give them each 55-60M deals over 4 yrs in which you kinda get the same roles filled by way more cost-efficient options. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL moving on from Lowry | Markkannen wants DAL? - Kammrath - 08-02-2021 (08-02-2021, 02:18 PM)F Gump Wrote: What's your analysis of the defensive comparison between Holmes and Portis? Most importantly, is it significant enough to outweigh the stretch element that Portis can offer, to a Luka-led offense? I think Holmes is a big who can stay on the floor in the modern NBA. I think he can protect the rim and move his feet exceptionally well. I also love that he is an elite roll man who not only dunks but can get his floater anywhere in the paint (meaning his roll gravity is really good). I think RH improves the Mavs spacing immensely by drawing the defense IN toward the paint in an effort to contain his rolling. I want RH because of his fit with Luka. I do not know how he fits with KP, if at all. But I would hate to miss on him being so available. I do not have a strong opinion on Portis, but I think he is a very different player than RH and I get the argument that he fits way better with KP. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL moving on from Lowry | Markkannen wants DAL? - Kammrath - 08-02-2021 https://twitter.com/TheHoopCentral/status/1422276979789684739 RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL moving on from Lowry | Markkannen wants DAL? - Dova - 08-02-2021 (08-02-2021, 02:15 PM)Kammrath Wrote: https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1422274739473690625 RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL moving on from Lowry | Markkannen wants DAL? - haveitall - 08-02-2021 (08-02-2021, 02:18 PM)F Gump Wrote: Kammrath4 yrs/$60M is a STEAL for RH IMO. I don't see why not offer Holmes 70/4 same as Wendell Carter. Then see if you can land best remaining shooter whether its THJ, Fournier, or Markanen. Or do a S&T of Powell for Hield. 2021 free agency has no stars available, so then pickup 2 starters instead. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL moving on from Lowry | Markkannen wants DAL? - mvossman - 08-02-2021 (08-02-2021, 02:18 PM)F Gump Wrote: Kammrath4 yrs/$60M is a STEAL for RH IMO. To be honest, with Holmes at center, you can more easily get away with DFS/Luka at the 3/4. If you want more size at the 4 then go with Maxi. If we are looking to bring in a true 4 to start with Holmes in this scenario, I thing I prefer Batum due to defense and a little play making, but I could be convinced on Portis due to age. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL moving on from Lowry | Markkannen wants DAL? - cow - 08-02-2021 I'm really not a fan of the "fit" narrative particularly in relation to KP who has shown he can't fit with our Superstar. Holmes on a value contract is ammo for the war chest. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL moving on from Lowry | Markkannen wants DAL? - Kammrath - 08-02-2021 RE: Holmes Fit in DAL One opinion I have on the whole KP situation is that if his D is as broken as it looked last year then I don't think putting another big like RH next to him makes anything any WORSE. I think four wings and KP will be just as bad defensively as KP with a big. So to me you still go after a guy like RH even if KP is around for now. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL moving on from Lowry | Markkannen wants DAL? - KillerLeft - 08-02-2021 (08-02-2021, 02:28 PM)cow Wrote: I'm really not a fan of the "fit" narrative particularly in relation to KP has shown he can't fit with our Superstar. Holmes on a value contract is ammo for the war chest. Great, until you're stuck playing them together. Other than that, I totally agree with the logic. Honestly. It's just that in my mind, Holmes at the 5 and KP at 4 (with a new head coach who is probably powerless to bench him) might actually make for a worse season than the last two. (08-02-2021, 02:29 PM)Kammrath Wrote: RE: Holmes Fit in DAL You might be right about this. I don't think that way, but I can't really argue against it. Honestly, I'm just so ready for us not to have to imagine all of this in such a way that works with KP. It's like fighting with one arm tied behind your back. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL moving on from Lowry | Markkannen wants DAL? - cow - 08-02-2021 I don't see why you can't play Holmes and KP together. Weren't there some favorable on/off numbers for the KP/DP combo? RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL moving on from Lowry | Markkannen wants DAL? - StrandedOnBeauboisHill - 08-02-2021 https://twitter.com/DailyKnicksFS/status/1422270089966010380 18 for Fournier should mean the same for Hardaway RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL moving on from Lowry | Markkannen wants DAL? - bin610 - 08-02-2021 nooooooooooooooooooooooooo RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL moving on from Lowry | Markkannen wants DAL? - mvossman - 08-02-2021 (08-02-2021, 02:29 PM)Kammrath Wrote: RE: Holmes Fit in DAL I look at it the other way. If his D is as broken as it was last year, then they have to do everything they can to dump him. They don't appear to be doing that, so I think they are operating on the assumption that with a healthy offseason he will be closer to what he was before (a slightly above average rim protector). (08-02-2021, 02:34 PM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: https://twitter.com/DailyKnicksFS/status/1422270089966010380 I would not have hated that for Fournier. I would for THJ. |