(05-19-2025, 11:48 PM)Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo Wrote: I'd like a trade for Giddey but at this point, the Bulls would think twice even if the Mavs offered them AD.

(05-19-2025, 10:07 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Is Tyus Jones bad, all of a sudden, or is PHX just a dumpster fire?

I could be talked into him as a reclamation.

(05-20-2025, 12:58 AM)Knutsen Wrote: What about Tre Jones from the Bulls, who was with the Spurs before? He‘s a free agent, 25 years old, his stats after the trade to the Bulls look nice, he was defensive player of the year in college although he‘s smallish, and went to Duke like half our team - have never really watched him play, could he be worth taking a flier? 

His stats in a limited sample size where 11.5 points, 4.9 assists, 0.8 turnovers, 1.1 steals on 57% from the field in 25 minutes. 

I think the opportunity to start at least half a season on a really good time should be quite attractive to younger guys looking to establish themselves and showcase their skills, shouldn’t it?

(05-20-2025, 07:31 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: It will be really interesting to see what the teams thinks about Brandon Williams.  Was he just a neat story last year or does the team have hopes he could be a real rotation level player?

(05-20-2025, 07:40 AM)Winter Wrote: Can someone tell me why the dislike Brandon Williams? I can't find a good reason.

(05-20-2025, 07:46 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: I don't know if it is dislike.  It is just really hard to be a rotation level player.    He is a little small and from the looks of it, Kidd and Nico want big, physical players.   He is also 26, I believe.   

Wondering if someone is a legit rotation for a good team (hopefully) is not dislike.    It is just really hard to earn those spots.

(05-20-2025, 08:18 AM)Winter Wrote: It's a serious question though. What does he have to do? He plays defense, had a 40% 3-ball, not many TOs. Is there some reason why he shouldn't be in the rotation every night?

We need playmakers and I'm all for adding one. I just don't see many out there better than him if we take last year's stats as his baseline. I mean Tyus Jones isn't any bigger.

(05-20-2025, 08:38 AM)vfromlmf Wrote: Here's an interesting target. Unrestricted free agent Ty Jerome 

Placed 3rd in Sixth Man of the Year voting. Reminds me a little bit of Manu Ginobili

https://theswishtheory.com/nba/2024/12/ty-jerome-late-bloomer/

(05-19-2025, 11:18 PM)FireNicoHarrison Wrote: Not so good, but if he passed extra court issues is a good pick.

Bruce Brown is another great target.
All around player and 6th man of the year material.

But we need a floor general PG first... Giddey, CP3 , Micic or something like them.

Tyus Jones is pretty mediocre but he shot 40+% from 3s and he can set up some plays.
Nothing special but a solid player, obviously very bad on defense.

(05-20-2025, 09:30 AM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: IMO Bruce is cooked

(05-20-2025, 11:48 AM)Smitty Wrote: Not my favorite person in Twitter but I like this idea from Gunn:

Potential scenarios to get DAL under the 2nd apron on draft night:

BKN receives: Jaden Hardy
DAL receives: pick No. 27

> rookie scale for pick 27 is $2.3M which would net DAL to roughly $240K below the 2nd apron and open up the ability to aggregate players in a trade.

> BKN has an abundance of picks in this draft (8, 19, 26, 27, 36), D-Lo/Cam Thomas/De’Anthony Melton are all free agents this summer, and BKN originally tried to get Hardy included in the Kyrie deal. With only 9 players on their roster going into next season and only 2 of them being guards, there would be plenty of minutes for Hardy to take his game to the next level at a very low hit to the books.

DET receives: Jaden Hardy
DAL receives: pick No. 37, MIL 2027 2nd

> DET has the most cap space this summer and after their leap this past season, I suspect they will be looking to retain some of their vets and look to round out their roster around Cade. DET also has lots of young guys still looking to permanently solidify their spot in the rotation leaving little to no consistent minutes available for a current year 2nd round pick. Hardy is someone who has shot-creation skills, a need on the Piston’s bench.

> Also worth noting that Dennis Schroeder, Malik Beasley, and Tim Hardaway Jr. are all free agents this summer leaving Cade, Ivey, and Sasser as the only guards remaining. Hardy’s flat $6M salary over the next 3 years (team option in year 3) would be an inexpensive, low-risk addition to DET financial picture.

(05-20-2025, 11:48 AM)Smitty Wrote: Not my favorite person in Twitter but I like this idea from Gunn:

Potential scenarios to get DAL under the 2nd apron on draft night:

BKN receives: Jaden Hardy
DAL receives: pick No. 27

> rookie scale for pick 27 is $2.3M which would net DAL to roughly $240K below the 2nd apron and open up the ability to aggregate players in a trade.

> BKN has an abundance of picks in this draft (8, 19, 26, 27, 36), D-Lo/Cam Thomas/De’Anthony Melton are all free agents this summer, and BKN originally tried to get Hardy included in the Kyrie deal. With only 9 players on their roster going into next season and only 2 of them being guards, there would be plenty of minutes for Hardy to take his game to the next level at a very low hit to the books.

DET receives: Jaden Hardy
DAL receives: pick No. 37, MIL 2027 2nd

> DET has the most cap space this summer and after their leap this past season, I suspect they will be looking to retain some of their vets and look to round out their roster around Cade. DET also has lots of young guys still looking to permanently solidify their spot in the rotation leaving little to no consistent minutes available for a current year 2nd round pick. Hardy is someone who has shot-creation skills, a need on the Piston’s bench.

> Also worth noting that Dennis Schroeder, Malik Beasley, and Tim Hardaway Jr. are all free agents this summer leaving Cade, Ivey, and Sasser as the only guards remaining. Hardy’s flat $6M salary over the next 3 years (team option in year 3) would be an inexpensive, low-risk addition to DET financial picture.

(05-20-2025, 12:40 PM)ACMFFL Wrote: I love these trades but I don't think Hardy has that kind of value. I'd be happy even if we just dump him into capspace for free.

(05-20-2025, 12:40 PM)ACMFFL Wrote: I love these trades but I don't think Hardy has that kind of value. I'd be happy even if we just dump him into capspace for free.

(05-20-2025, 05:54 PM)ThisIStheYear Wrote: Yep. Hardy has no value at the moment.  Someone might take him for free. I’d probably just keep him and see if he can be rehabilitated.  He’s a project who’s actually gotten much worse from his rookie season.  I’m afraid that maybe the Mavs added too much to his developmental plate. Maybe he’s just a spot up shooter who can occasionally attack the basket and not a guy you train to set up other players.