(04-10-2025, 02:17 AM)cow Wrote: Still hard to believe our trash organization traded him. I don't think this wound will heal. Sell the team or move to Vegas.  At this point, I'm envious of Supersonic fans.

(04-09-2025, 10:43 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: Because I have the misfortune to still be a Mavs fan, my only hope for the offseason is that Nico is fired and the league gifts us Flagg (or at the very least a top four pick - the "and" is there because no team so self-flagellating as to retain Nico as its GM deserves that), or, if the owners are too moronic to fire Nico, that someone outbids us for KD.

(04-10-2025, 06:23 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: Yeah the morning after I am left with empty void. I just seriously cannot believe we live in this timeline. 

Luka didn't want this. The fans didn't want this. The only people that wanted this were Nico and his yes-men. The literal ONLY path through this is a reset. And it'd start by listening to the fans for ONCE and firing that dolt right now. 

After last night, I don't see how anyone in management could think this will just blow over. It will carry through to next year. The fire Nico chants will never stop until he's gone.

(04-10-2025, 02:59 AM)audiosway Wrote: I gotta admit that I feel terrible for you guys. I'm fully in with the Lakers now and could care less about the Mavs trash organization. The more news that comes out the worse this looks. I gave them 25 years of being a fan. Nico trashed that.

Luka looks great. Nico is a petty idiot.

(04-10-2025, 06:23 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: After last night, I don't see how anyone in management could think this will just blow over. It will carry through to next year. The fire Nico chants will never stop until he's gone.

(04-10-2025, 07:35 AM)FireNicoHarrison Wrote: Agree.

Like i said yesterday, if (and it's a big if) Dumont really wants to repair the connection with the fans he has to fire Harrison and probably Kidd too.

Admit that he was wrong, cut those heads and dump on them all the fault.

Otherwise they will lose a lot of money in next years because the roster is not fixable honestly, too many teams are way ahead of the Mavs right now and our assets are weak. Very weak.

I don't see a future in this path (ok you said i'm always negative ecc ecc and maybe you are right though) so trade AD and don't resign Kyrie is the fastest way to rebuild. No other really good options for me.

Teams like Dallas never trade for a Batman, we have to draft our Batman and resign until his retire just like Dirk.
AD is a great player but he never carried a team, he is not able to do. He is not his job. Too soft.

(04-10-2025, 07:44 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: They are going to lose a ton of money regardless.  I think the question they have to ask is if this team has a realistic chance to compete either as is or with an all in move.   It is tricky because you are making a conclusion without seeing them on the court mostly.   If the answer is no or likely no, is an all in move sound?  That could make a rebound 15 years instead of 8.    I mean when you suck, you can suck for awhile.   But if you suck and have no picks...good luck.

(04-10-2025, 06:48 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: This.  I love Lively.  He has been bad since returning.  I loved the center combo of Lively and Gafford just playing hard all the time.  I really liked PJ as a PF wild card.  Who provided toughness and athleticism with streaky shooting, but had gotten up to 37% from three from the year.    I don't want to make final judgements because everyone has been hurt and just returned, but the reviews are not great.  Our starting front court has looked terrible so far.  PJ looks not suited to be a SF, especially when we are so limited by creation.  Lively is just out there when playing with AD.    AD looks slow and moves like a 5 right now.  On defense teams are getting shots at the rim and wide open threes.  Tough to imagine this being a super strength of the team moving forward.  If it is not, how do they change it?

(04-10-2025, 06:23 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: Yeah the morning after I am left with empty void. I just seriously cannot believe we live in this timeline. 

Luka didn't want this. The fans didn't want this. The only people that wanted this were Nico and his yes-men. The literal ONLY path through this is a reset. And it'd start by listening to the fans for ONCE and firing that dolt right now. 

After last night, I don't see how anyone in management could think this will just blow over. It will carry through to next year. The fire Nico chants will never stop until he's gone.

(04-10-2025, 10:23 AM)hakeemfaan Wrote: I said this in the other chat and posting it here as well.

Every player will have warts. More you see them everyday the warts tend to get magnified.  It is important that we not lose focus on the good as well.

To me, Gafford, Lively, PJ and Naji are warriors regardless of their warts. I would be in no hurry to get rid of any of them just to have a more well balanced roster.  If we are going to suck the next 5-7 years at least give me relatively young players who I know will bring it every night. I can live with that. I will pay to watch and support them as well once Nico is let go.

(04-10-2025, 10:27 AM)cow Wrote: It's why it hurts so much.  After wasting the post championship years and be lost a desert of mediocrity and a massive sexual harassment scandal, the basketball God's gifted us Luka Doncic and Jalen Brunson which this organization completely mismanaged and less than seven years later turned into a past-his-prime Anthony Davis, a marginal rotation player, and one first round pick.  That's what we got for two superstars, one of which being a generational talent.  

Jerry Jones has made me question my fandom over the years, but this feels different as not even Jerry would make a move this idiotic and lopsided which is saying something considering the clown show that is the Cowboys.  I don't hate the players or the people still cheering, but I do hate this team right now and wish them a lack of success.  I've considered picking another team to cheer for, but that doesn't feel right and  who the heck do you pick anyway?   So I'm left rooting for this team to fall on its' face.  So bring on KD.  At least we can see the rock bottom of MBT2.0.

I think Nico survives until next season.  Partly because of the injury excuses and mostly because the ownership group are basketball neophytes. 


Considering the future, which this organization obviously will not, I'd sell high on Gafford and Lively before they take a step back without the Luka bump.  They're fine players who I like a lot, but their warts are about to become a lot more evident and Lively's health scares the hell out of me.  I love Naji and I'd hang onto him.  Seems like he could be a culture guy like Powell, except a lot more useful on the court.  He's also inexpensive.

(04-10-2025, 10:45 AM)hakeemfaan Wrote: I agree that both are limited.  I never said they are untouchables. However to me I would rather watch both of them than KD running around here.   I like young, athletic players who play hard every night and don’t back down. I am just cautioning against overreacting to their shortcomings and rushing to move them out.

(04-10-2025, 10:45 AM)hakeemfaan Wrote: I agree that both are limited.  I never said they are untouchables. However to me I would rather watch both of them than KD running around here.   I like young, athletic players who play hard every night and don’t back down. I am just cautioning against overreacting to their shortcomings and rushing to move them out.

(04-10-2025, 11:03 AM)hakeemfaan Wrote: Let me put it another way. I would rather move on from AD, Klay and Kyrie. I will take less talented. limited, younger athletic players who don’t back down. If we lose by 40 every night so be it.  The product out there is now slower than when Luka was here and that’s unacceptable.

(04-10-2025, 02:39 PM)BigDirk41 Wrote: This probably won't be popular, but the Luka trade has ruined my 30 plus years of being a Mavs fan. I honestly can't call myself a fan now. I haven't gotten over it and I don't think I will unfortunately. I actually hurt for Luka. Last night broke me watching him cry watching his tribute. The guy wanted to be here for his entire career and honestly I'd rather have 10-15 years of Luka even if the result was zero championships, which I don't believe would be the case. That would still be better than this current and future team. Some might say I'm not a real fan, but I've been around since the three Js days and I supported them through the bad and good times, but this was self induced and completely different. I don't have to support a team that doesn't value it's fan base. I do hope they turn it around at some point, but I'm strictly a Luka fan now even though I hate the Lakers. I want to root for that guy now no matter what. Last night didn't give me closure. It just made me hate Nico and the new owners even more and it's pretty obvious that the majority of fans feel the same way.