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RE: MAVS NEWS: - ACMFFL - 12-09-2025
Dallas has to get the rights to swap pick with Atlanta's NOP 1st at least in any AD to the Hawks deal. No reason to move AD just for the sake of it.
RE: MAVS NEWS: - omahen - 12-09-2025
(12-09-2025, 10:01 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: I had once upon a time posted KP/Risacher/picks as an idea. I now wonder if it wouldn't be KP/Okongwu/picks instead. This is especially true if Gafford were to move. Okongwu is younger and has more to his offensive game than Gafford. His stretch ability helps spread things out for Flagg, yet he is perfectly capable as a roll man or from the dunker's spot. No way Atlanta gives up what would currently be the #1 overall pick. Best you could hope for their middle pick in 26 and the Milwaukee pick they own in 2027. The problem with Atlanta is they are better set up to deal with Milwaukee, so as long as Giannis is a possibility...
I see things I like from Detroit, but don't get the Toronto thing. I'd add GSW to the list of possible Gafford destinations.
I am with you on not getting the Toronto thing. Poeltl and Barret seem like logical salaries, but why would Mavs want that? Unless they would be shipped to other teams. Still, Toronto would need to include more salaries, which would leave them holes around the roster. Quickley instead of Poeltl or Barret? Another overpaid player on a long-term deal.
Atlanta has three large salaries in KP, Johnson and Trae and one of them would need to be included. I think Johnson is too young and too good to be included in such a move. KP is basically an ideal player to allow Davis to play PF that he prefers. I doubt Atlanta would include both of their centers (KP+Okongwu) for Davis. KP+Risacher works nicely for both teams salary wise, although Atlanta would be down to 13 players with only 1 million left under the first apron. Perhaps Atlanta adds Kennard and takes something else from Mavs.
If the target was Giannis, I would have zero problems including Trae, as Giannis and Daniels could handle PG duties adequately, imho. But Davis is not Giannis in terms of creating for himself or others, he needs a PG. So unless there is a deal that nets Atlanta a decent PG, it is difficult to imagine Trae. On Dallas side, Trae could work nicely surrounded with all the defense Mavs have, but not with Kyrie.
Detroit could make a lot of sense for Davis, as they seem to be a team that is one move away from being a true contender. But, they would also have a bunch of difficult decisions to make. AD next to Duren is a huge question mark, since it is almost impossible to be a contender with two non shooters. I would not really deal Duren for AD, if I am Detroit. Detroit is already one of the worst shooting teams as it is (third worst in attempts and 19th best in makes). But, if they have answers to those question marks, they certainly make a lot of sense.
RE: MAVS NEWS: - omahen - 12-09-2025
(12-09-2025, 09:12 AM)Smitty Wrote: Klay to LAL makes sense
While LAL bench scoring is total crap recently, I don't think a shooter is near the top of LAL priorities. First and foremost they need a true 3-D wing, someone who really takes pride in playing defense and is adequate on offense (think Herb Jones, Wiggins types). If those are not available, I doubt LA will spend any assets on moves around the edges. They have a key offseason coming, where they will likely have to replace LeBron and will have several paths to do it. Cap space, SnT, 3 FRP,... There would perhaps be a deal, if Mavs would be intrigued in Vincent and Kleber with no assets attached (add one more salary on Mavs side to make the salaries work).
I see Detroit as a team that could really use Klay and his shooting. They wanted to keep Beasley, which went wrong and they really miss such a guy. I think Klay could be great coming of the bench for Detroit.
RE: MAVS NEWS: - Scott41theMavs - 12-09-2025
(12-09-2025, 10:02 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Funny! I still think it ends up being Riccardi.
Screw this franchise. If they aren't waiting for Presti, then Go. Get. Lindsay. Now.
RE: MAVS NEWS: - Smitty - 12-09-2025
(12-09-2025, 09:12 AM)Smitty Wrote: Working through possibilities with each of the 3 teams listed, and what a potential AD package could be centered around, the Hawks are the only ones that really interest me.
Porzingis (expiring), Risacher (#1 overall pick 2024), '26 Pelicans FRP
Klay to LAL makes sense. Gafford to CHI or IND? Maybe DLO to someone like MIN or MIL.
@All_Things_Mavs
The Indiana Pacers are interested in acquiring Daniel Gafford, per @JakeLFischer
I like the Mathurin idea that others have posted here. Feels like the Mavs would have to add a sweetener. He's a RFA next year and will probably command mid-20M AAV?
RE: MAVS NEWS: - mvossman - 12-09-2025
(12-09-2025, 03:22 PM)Smitty Wrote: @All_Things_Mavs
The Indiana Pacers are interested in acquiring Daniel Gafford, per @JakeLFischer
I like the Mathurin idea that others have posted here. Feels like the Mavs would have to add a sweetener. He's a RFA next year and will probably command mid-20M AAV?
I like this idea, but if we trade Gafford, Cisse runs out of games and we trade AD (or he gets hurt) we could easily end up with Powell being the only healthy center on the roster. I'm not looking to push for the playoffs, but I would prefer to not repeat the shitshow of last season and the organizational incompetence it represents.
RE: MAVS NEWS: - Dirknows - 12-09-2025
(12-09-2025, 03:22 PM)Smitty Wrote: @All_Things_Mavs
The Indiana Pacers are interested in acquiring Daniel Gafford, per @JakeLFischer
I like the Mathurin idea that others have posted here. Feels like the Mavs would have to add a sweetener. He's a RFA next year and will probably command mid-20M AAV?
I’d rather pay mid-20s to Mathurin than Coby White that’s for sure. Not sure what additional assets we have to give. Would probably have to do a trade for Mathurin using returns from a separate deal.
RE: MAVS NEWS: - HoosierDaddyKid - 12-09-2025
(12-09-2025, 11:19 AM)omahen Wrote: While LAL bench scoring is total crap recently, I don't think a shooter is near the top of LAL priorities. First and foremost they need a true 3-D wing, someone who really takes pride in playing defense and is adequate on offense (think Herb Jones, Wiggins types). If those are not available, I doubt LA will spend any assets on moves around the edges. They have a key offseason coming, where they will likely have to replace LeBron and will have several paths to do it. Cap space, SnT, 3 FRP,... There would perhaps be a deal, if Mavs would be intrigued in Vincent and Kleber with no assets attached (add one more salary on Mavs side to make the salaries work).
I see Detroit as a team that could really use Klay and his shooting. They wanted to keep Beasley, which went wrong and they really miss such a guy. I think Klay could be great coming of the bench for Detroit.
Good point. But Detroit doesn't look for 3's like most teams. They'll take open looks, but like you said, they don't shoot a good percentage as a team. Cunningham and Robinson are probably their best 3 pt shooters. Detroit plays in the paint and shoots middies. They lead the league in paint points.
RE: MAVS NEWS: - RoyTarpleysGhost - 12-09-2025
(12-09-2025, 03:22 PM)Smitty Wrote: @All_Things_Mavs
The Indiana Pacers are interested in acquiring Daniel Gafford, per @JakeLFischer
Definitely down to trade Gafford but it would be funny if we went from 3 centers to 0 centers.
RE: MAVS NEWS: - RoyTarpleysGhost - 12-09-2025
[Mavs Film Room] Exclusive: Dwight Powell is likely to retire at the end of this season, league sources tell Mavs Film Room.
RE: MAVS NEWS: - DanSchwartzgan - 12-09-2025
Evan Sidery
@esidery
The East’s No. 1 seed Pistons, who will pursue a trade for Anthony Davis, have the necessary assets to make a trade with the Mavericks.
Detroit can create a package headlined by Jaden Ivey, Tobias Harris’ $26.6 million expiring contract, another role player, plus draft capital.
RE: MAVS NEWS: - DanSchwartzgan - 12-09-2025
(12-09-2025, 06:50 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Evan Sidery
@esidery
The East’s No. 1 seed Pistons, who will pursue a trade for Anthony Davis, have the necessary assets to make a trade with the Mavericks.
Detroit can create a package headlined by Jaden Ivey, Tobias Harris’ $26.6 million expiring contract, another role player, plus draft capital.
For those who care about the financial side of things, AD/Martin/Hardy for Harris/Stewart/Ivey leaves both teams about a million under the tax.
RE: MAVS NEWS: - Dirknows - 12-09-2025
(12-09-2025, 06:56 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: For those who care about the financial side of things, AD/Martin/Hardy for Harris/Stewart/Ivey leaves both teams about a million under the tax.
Is Ron Holland a whole lot of nothing? Top-5 pick in 2024 if I recall but he hasn’t done anything in the NBA so far. Picks from Detroit don’t do much for me they will be in the 20s for a while.
RE: MAVS NEWS: - Winter - 12-09-2025
(12-09-2025, 06:56 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: For those who care about the financial side of things, AD/Martin/Hardy for Harris/Stewart/Ivey leaves both teams about a million under the tax.
I wouldn't think they would send us Stewart, but I'll take him.
RE: MAVS NEWS: - Chicagojk - 12-09-2025
(12-09-2025, 07:03 PM)Dirknows Wrote: Is Ron Holland a whole lot of nothing? Top-5 pick in 2024 if I recall but he hasn’t done anything in the NBA so far. Picks from Detroit don’t do much for me they will be in the 20s for a while.
from what I have seen he is a long ways away. Really raw. One of those roll of the dice upside picks who either hit or are out of the league in a few years. I have only seen him play a few times though. I want shooters though.
To be honest though, I may prefer Holland over Ivey. Look at the 24 highlights of Ivey and he looks great. I really liked him in college too. Although last year he had a terrible injury and then a knee scope before the season. I watched some videos of his recent games and it looks like he is still trying to get back the athleticism. Those type of players scare me. He was awesome in college though.
RE: MAVS NEWS: - DanSchwartzgan - 12-09-2025
(12-09-2025, 07:03 PM)Winter Wrote: I wouldn't think they would send us Stewart, but I'll take him.
Duren/AD is the center rotation post trade
RE: MAVS NEWS: - Chicagojk - 12-09-2025
(12-09-2025, 07:03 PM)Winter Wrote: I wouldn't think they would send us Stewart, but I'll take him.
I think their coach made a comment recently that Stewart is the best defending center in the league. I found it strange. No idea if it has any merit.
RE: MAVS NEWS: - DanSchwartzgan - 12-09-2025
(12-09-2025, 07:09 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: from what I have seen he is a long ways away. Really raw. One of those roll of the dice upside picks who either hit or are out of the league in a few years. I have only seen him play a few times though. I want shooters though.
To be honest though, I may prefer Holland over Ivey.
Agreed. Shot is non-existent. D is very good. He has the 5th most minutes of any Detroit player so far this season. He further crowds the forward position, so Naji might need to be outgoing in such a deal.
RE: MAVS NEWS: - RoyTarpleysGhost - 12-09-2025
Pistons and Hawks play on NBA TV Friday night.
That's going on my DVR.
RE: MAVS NEWS: - Winter - 12-09-2025
The AD/Martin/Hardy for Harris/Stewart/ Ivey and two first-rounders probably has me saying "yes".