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RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: Free Agency Starts 5pm CST/6pm EST - KillerLeft - 06-30-2025

(06-30-2025, 12:54 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Kelly Iko (@KellyIko)
The Rockets are working quickly to secure meetings with Dorian Finney-Smith, Nickeil Alexander-Walker and Luke Kennard at the outset of free agency, team sources tell @TheAthletic.

I hope DFS gets that gig. I always felt he was under appreciated here in Dallas, and it will be cool to see him get to compete for championships again. 

Plus, efff the Lakers, now and forever.


RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: Free Agency Starts 5pm CST/6pm EST - SleepingHero - 06-30-2025

Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania)
Free agent forward Nicolas Batum intends to sign a two-year, $11.5 million deal to return to the Los Angeles Clippers, sources tell ESPN. Deal includes a team option as well as a trade kicker. Batum's agent, Bouna Ndiaye of Comsport, negotiated the contract for the reunion.


RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: Free Agency Starts 5pm CST/6pm EST - SleepingHero - 06-30-2025

(06-30-2025, 12:56 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: I hope DFS gets that gig. I always felt he was under appreciated here in Dallas, and it will be cool to see him get to compete for championships again. 

Plus, efff the Lakers, now and forever.

I think that's a step too far. DFS was adored. Many were so mad that he was the basis for the Kyrie trade. 

But yes, F the Lakers. Luka is hopefully the next one to abandon that ship.


RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: Free Agency Starts 5pm CST/6pm EST - KillerLeft - 06-30-2025

Pretty good plan from HOU, all things considered.

They get KD by giving up one good pick (that's now already in the past), along with Green, a guy they'd apparently had enough of, and Dillon Brooks. Now, they plan to replace Brooks with either DFS or NAW? Personally, I'd take either of them over Brooks without thinking twice. I know some like Brooks, and there's something to be said for him, but I think he's a delusional culture killer, and culture matters.


RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: Free Agency Starts 5pm CST/6pm EST - KillerLeft - 06-30-2025

(06-30-2025, 12:59 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: DFS was adored.

Yes, but only by the smart half of the fan base.


RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: Free Agency Starts 5pm CST/6pm EST - SleepingHero - 06-30-2025

Grant Afseth (@GrantAfseth)
As NBA free agency nears, D'Angelo Russell continues to be a name to watch for the Dallas Mavericks, sources tell @DALHoopsJournal.


RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: Free Agency Starts 5pm CST/6pm EST - F Gump - 06-30-2025

Having a mild issue over who plays when, and having too many good players, is going to be a real plus. Keeping from being too thin on talent, because of a hard cap and the issues it creates, is a real thing.

Eventually it is likely to end with someone who wants more minutes and players getting moved as a result, but for a season at least (until a pecking order sorts itself out), Mavs should have real depth.

And I strongly disagree with the mantra saying Kyrie will be no real factor for a year -- his type of injury from surgery to full speed gets him back way before then. I'll say it now and you guys being negative please remember -- when we get to training camp in Oct, we are likely to hear Kyrie is on the floor getting shots in. (Not in scrimmages, but very mobile and active and involved.) I had similar surgery 50 years ago (maybe worse knee injury than KI, and no doubt much worse methods then to cut on it, and better ways for recovery now), and I was playing casual games in a few months - probably unwisely, but no issue and it felt good. In 8 months I was full speed again, playing league games at 100%. Mavs won't let him take chances like I did, because too much at stake, but his timeline almost certainly should be by January or even before, giving them a half season with him (and well before the trade deadline, if that might matter).


RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: Free Agency Starts 5pm CST/6pm EST - SleepingHero - 06-30-2025

(06-30-2025, 01:07 PM)F Gump Wrote: I had similar surgery 50 years ago (maybe worse knee injury than KI, and no doubt much worse methods then to cut on it, and better ways for recovery now), and I was playing casual games in a few months - probably unwisely, but no issue and it felt good. In 8 months I was full speed again, playing league games at 100%. Mavs won't let him take chances like I did, because too much at stake, but his timeline almost certainly should be by January or even before, giving them a half season with him (and well before the trade deadline, if that might matter).

It honestly depends on inflammation, scar tissue, and just how his body responds to physical therapy. 

But yes, I have Kyrie with a penciled in return date for mid February. Just factoring in conditioning and getting ready for the season. I assume he'll be comfortable by mid-January and can take 3-4 weeks to get into game shape. Post ASB is a realistic and fine return date for him.


RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: Free Agency Starts 5pm CST/6pm EST - cow - 06-30-2025

(06-30-2025, 12:56 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: I always felt he was under appreciated here in Dallas

Not by me.  #GodKing4Life


RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: Free Agency Starts 5pm CST/6pm EST - Winter - 06-30-2025

The funny thing about DFS is that he was very well-liked by both LeBron and Luka. I have to believe that they're not exactly happy about this development ... even if they understand it.


RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: Free Agency Starts 5pm CST/6pm EST - KillerLeft - 06-30-2025

(06-30-2025, 01:07 PM)F Gump Wrote: Having a mild issue over who plays when, and having too many good players, is going to be a real plus. Keeping from being too thin on talent, because of a hard cap and the issues it creates, is a real thing.

Eventually it is likely to end with someone who wants more minutes and players getting moved as a result, but for a season at least (until a pecking order sorts itself out), Mavs should have real depth.

I agree with the above, which is the only reason I'm not losing my mind about the Gafford situation, or that they didn't rush into a PJW trade as an alternative. I feel strongly that if a deal for a difference making perimeter player was possible it would have been wise to cash one or both of them in at this juncture, but it's possible that no such deal is out there this summer. If that's the case (we'll never know), I obviously agree that retaining the talented players you like is better than bringing in lesser players just because they play a position of need. Worst case scenario, NOW, is that we see some of our concerns play out and they have to figure out how to fix them, but they're more likely to have the tools to do so if they keep lots of good players, to your point. And, to your other point, this gives them a chance to confirm what areas need addressing.


RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: Free Agency Starts 5pm CST/6pm EST - mvossman - 06-30-2025

(06-30-2025, 12:45 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: And I don't think that's a bad idea at all.

PJ as a super 6th man isn't the end of the world to me. Especially since we can expect AD to miss at least some time throughout the season. PJ will still probably start around 20-30 games.

My only concern is that not starting will impact his willingness to extend here.  Its interesting how starting is considered such an important thing when I would argue finishing is more important.  If we are trying to win games, my guess is that will be something similar to what Smitty suggested (AD/PJ/Flagg/Max/Dlo).  In a year if you replace Max/Dlo with Kyrie and somebody like Derrick White that is a legit contender.


RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: Free Agency Starts 5pm CST/6pm EST - KillerLeft - 06-30-2025

(06-30-2025, 01:16 PM)mvossman Wrote: My only concern is that not starting will impact his willingness to extend here.  Its interesting how starting is considered such an important thing when I would argue finishing is more important.  If we are trying to win games, my guess is that will be something similar to what Smitty suggested (AD/PJ/Flagg/Max/Dlo).  In a year if you replace Max/Dlo with Kyrie and somebody like Derrick White that is a legit contender.

If there's one thing we know about Harrison, it's this:

If/when he offers you and extension and you turn it down, get ready to be traded. I don't know if that's a good or bad thing regarding PJW, but my guess is that he won't be here (without an extension) long enough for his value to drop too much.


RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: Free Agency Starts 5pm CST/6pm EST - cow - 06-30-2025

(06-30-2025, 01:21 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: If there's one thing we know about Harrison, it's this:

If/when he offers you and extension and you turn it down, get ready to be traded. I don't know if that's a good or bad thing regarding PJW, but my guess is that he won't be here (without an extension) long enough for his value to drop too much.

Better to trade him now then.  Like Gafford to a lesser extent, but I'd expect their offensive production to slump while playing without Luka/Kyrie or another quality facilitator and that's going to last beyond the TDL.  Another reason why we should move heaven and earth to get CP3.


RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: Free Agency Starts 5pm CST/6pm EST - Smitty - 06-30-2025

(06-30-2025, 01:21 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: If there's one thing we know about Harrison, it's this:

If/when he offers you and extension and you turn it down, get ready to be traded. I don't know if that's a good or bad thing regarding PJW, but my guess is that he won't be here (without an extension) long enough for his value to drop too much.

The ONLY thing that will upset me is if we find out PJ was never offered an extension. I can understand if it's offered and PJ says no, because he thinks he's worth more than $23M AAV. If that's the case, I can even understand Nico trading him before he gets to UFA and you get nothing in return. 

I don't want to think about the other possibilities. I have 29 August circled on the calendar. I'll be waiting for the Stein tweet that says PJ signs a new 4-year, nearly $92M extension to stay with the Mavs through 2030. ($91,898,435 to be exact)


RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: Free Agency Starts 5pm CST/6pm EST - mvossman - 06-30-2025

(06-30-2025, 01:07 PM)F Gump Wrote: Having a mild issue over who plays when, and having too many good players, is going to be a real plus. Keeping from being too thin on talent, because of a hard cap and the issues it creates, is a real thing.

Eventually it is likely to end with someone who wants more minutes and players getting moved as a result, but for a season at least (until a pecking order sorts itself out), Mavs should have real depth.

And I strongly disagree with the mantra saying Kyrie will be no real factor for a year -- his type of injury from surgery to full speed gets him back way before then. I'll say it now and you guys being negative please remember -- when we get to training camp in Oct, we are likely to hear Kyrie is on the floor getting shots in. (Not in scrimmages, but very mobile and active and involved.) I had similar surgery 50 years ago (maybe worse knee injury than KI, and no doubt much worse methods then to cut on it, and better ways for recovery now), and I was playing casual games in a few months - probably unwisely, but no issue and it felt good. In 8 months I was full speed again, playing league games at 100%. Mavs won't let him take chances like I did, because too much at stake, but his timeline almost certainly should be by January or even before, giving them a half season with him (and well before the trade deadline, if that might matter).

I don't think anybody said he will be a non factor next season, but there is a lot of history of guys with that injury that come back in less than a year but don't seem to get to full 100% until a little after a year.  Kyire could be different, but I don't think it prudent to assume he will back to 100% himself by the all star break, or even late in the season.  We shall see.


RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: Free Agency Starts 5pm CST/6pm EST - DallasMaverick - 06-30-2025

(06-30-2025, 01:07 PM)F Gump Wrote: And I strongly disagree with the mantra saying Kyrie will be no real factor for a year -- his type of injury from surgery to full speed gets him back way before then. I'll say it now and you guys being negative please remember -- when we get to training camp in Oct, we are likely to hear Kyrie is on the floor getting shots in. (Not in scrimmages, but very mobile and active and involved.) I had similar surgery 50 years ago (maybe worse knee injury than KI, and no doubt much worse methods then to cut on it, and better ways for recovery now), and I was playing casual games in a few months - probably unwisely, but no issue and it felt good. In 8 months I was full speed again, playing league games at 100%. Mavs won't let him take chances like I did, because too much at stake, but his timeline almost certainly should be by January or even before, giving them a half season with him (and well before the trade deadline, if that might matter).

They said the surgery was ACL only.  No MCL, no meniscus.  

So the odds of a quicker recovery are better.


RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: Free Agency Starts 5pm CST/6pm EST - Chicagojk - 06-30-2025

Utah buying out Clarkson. Probably not room for him here, but interesting.


RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: Free Agency Starts 5pm CST/6pm EST - SleepingHero - 06-30-2025

Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania)
Jordan Clarkson is finalizing a contract buyout with the Utah Jazz, sources tell ESPN. Clarkson will target contending teams for his new home -- with interest from multiple playoff teams already expected.


RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: Free Agency Starts 5pm CST/6pm EST - SleepingHero - 06-30-2025

(06-30-2025, 01:21 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: If there's one thing we know about Harrison, it's this:

If/when he offers you and extension and you turn it down, get ready to be traded. I don't know if that's a good or bad thing regarding PJW, but my guess is that he won't be here (without an extension) long enough for his value to drop too much.

He's only extension eligible late August. Which means if by the end of training camp he hasn't signed, I expect PJ to be traded.