(11-06-2025, 11:05 AM)From Dirk to SCREW YOU Nico Wrote: The hype around Flagg is about projection based on current age and skill.  He is so young. 

I try to temper my current expectations by thinking back to early Dirk.  He is SO FAR ahead of that curve right now...

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Dirk Nowitzki was 20 years old during his rookie season in 1998-99. His rookie year stats were 8.2 points, 3.4 rebounds, and 1.0 assist per game in 47 games.

(11-06-2025, 11:39 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: Caleb Martin doesn’t look like an nba player any longer.  He is t even close what he was in Miami.  Even discounting his playoff run with Miami.  Grimes on the other hand looks great.  And we gave up a high second for that trade.  Just an embarrassment.

There was a moment when the Mavs were up by 5 and they put Martin in.  He gave up a basket at the rim and then had an awful three attempt.  It was just deflating.

As much as I think NAji is a good player, I just don’t think he fits here with his lack of shooting.  He would be someone I would look for a betters longer term fit.

(11-06-2025, 11:50 AM)RoyTarpleysGhost Wrote:
Mavs had momentum and Kidd decided that was the time to get Martin some minutes.  That lineup really ruined it.

(11-06-2025, 01:18 PM)F Gump Wrote: Sometimes it sure does feel (already!) that the explanation is simple: "Clank, clank, I'm a tank!"

If we look at the recent past, the Mavs have always talked of winning and blue skies ahead -- even when they are tanking their butts off. So even if they talk about being great, I'm more focused on what they do rather than what they say.

Of course, they have not started tanking this early, in the past. But this will be their last opportunity for a great pick for some time, and some draft analysts are speaking of this draft class as historically good -- so if you want anywhere near the front of the line, you MUST start losing early. Is it possible they are headed that direction? 

Or are they just muddling along dealing with injuries and a total lack of chemistry? (Not only has much of the roster changed, including the engine that drove the play, but the coaching staff and system has completely changed as well. Not a good formula for winning, but with lots of confusion and no continuity, maybe....)

(11-06-2025, 01:18 PM)F Gump Wrote: Sometimes it sure does feel (already!) that the explanation is simple: "Clank, clank, I'm a tank!"

If we look at the recent past, the Mavs have always talked of winning and blue skies ahead -- even when they are tanking their butts off. So even if they talk about being great, I'm more focused on what they do rather than what they say.

Of course, they have not started tanking this early, in the past. But this will be their last opportunity for a great pick for some time, and some draft analysts are speaking of this draft class as historically good -- so if you want anywhere near the front of the line, you MUST start losing early. Is it possible they are headed that direction? 

Or are they just muddling along dealing with injuries and a total lack of chemistry? (Not only has much of the roster changed, including the engine that drove the play, but the coaching staff and system has completely changed as well. Not a good formula for winning, but with lots of confusion and no continuity, maybe....)

(11-06-2025, 03:44 PM)Nowitzki Way Wrote: . Their plan for ball handling was an 18 year old rookie, D-Lo, BWill, and Dante Exum. That was a terrible plan. I think we all knew it.

(11-06-2025, 04:05 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: In no way did I expect the play to be this bad, but you have to remember this was not a one off.   After they traded Luka, National basketball guys and most of us here thought, so your plan for creation rests on Kyrie and........   It didn't make sense.  Even Kyrie is not best served as a table setter.   We all thought they would look to add a move to get one at the trade deadline.  Only to be told that they thought the roster was ready for contention.   

Maybe I am giving Kidd too much credit, but he can't see this roster and know what it is missing, right?   It makes no sense.

(11-06-2025, 04:27 PM)Nowitzki Way Wrote: He has to see it. Its missing exactly what he was for 20 years. He's one of the best point guards of all time, he has to know his team doesnt have one. At all.

(11-06-2025, 05:13 PM)vfromlmf Wrote: We all thought Kidd was an idiot for starting Flagg at PG but did anyone else see what happened when they started DLo ?

It might be the case that our 18 year old rookie forward is, in fact, the best point guard on this roster.

Not sure if you noticed but DLo did some wild sh&t last night and the camera picked up Kidd saying something similar to "what the F" and immediately subbed in Naji to play point. Flagg initiated the offense in crunch time.

This is a bad team and AD isn't going to make it better.

Think: AD had 27 pts, 13 boards, 2 steals and 2 blocks while PJ pitched in an efficient 18 pts while Flagg managed another 18. That's probably ideal contribution from their top three players -- and they STILL lost by 10 to the Wizards who are now 1-7.

(11-06-2025, 04:48 PM)Jmaciscool Wrote: The locked on Mavs guys were speculating the other day that Kidd and Nico are not on the same page and wondered if part of Kidd's refusal to play any PG was a rebuke of Nico's roster construction. Basically a "you knew we needed a PG and you gave me DLo" type thing.

Not sure I completely buy that, but I think it's in the realm of possibility.