(11-03-2025, 02:10 PM)mvossman Wrote: We didn't even have to offer him the full MLE.  He got 10 mil with the Clippers.  All we had to do was not offer someone else his starting spot.  I still contend this was the move that started the downward spiral (not surprisingly it was Nico first move after Linsey left and Cuban was pushed out).  We let our best perimeter defender walk (who we have never replaced) for a guy we could have mostly replaced with the Timmy upgrade Grimes (who currently looks wildly better).

(11-04-2025, 05:00 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: This team is very bad.

Extremely bad.

I've watched a lot of basketball over my years and this team is approaching the status of worst of all time. Ridiculous given the talent they have on this roster, but.... the the vibes are just all off. I cannot tell you from exactly what is the main cause, but you can feel it.

There is no offensive identity. There is no flow. There is absolutely nothing from possession to possession that makes me believe that any of the 5 players is comfortable being out there.  It shows. The Mavs are 30th in the NBA this season in basically every offensive metric. They currently have a 103.4 ORTG, which is behind other offensive powerhouses like the Washington Wizards and New Orleans Pelicans. But relative to the league they are about 12 points behind league average. That is the lowest in franchise history. Not even the teams in the 90s had such a bad offense relative to league average.

Its such a glaring issue that its insurmountable. And one can argue missing AD for 3 out of the 7 games hasn't helped (i don't count the one where he never returned) and could be skewing the numbers, but the teams' offensive rating with AD on the court hasn't changed. Its a systemic issue. In fact, the only player that has a marked difference thus far vs. being on the court vs. off has been DLo. Which I don't think its a testament to DLo, but rather to how piss poor this offense is that even a guy shooting sub 40% can make them look better.

Further, Cooper Flagg has disappointed me a bit. The talent is there, but the drive? The aggression? It feels as if he's already mentally checked out. He goes through 5-10 minute stretches of basically running cardio on offense. The guy at Duke had passion for the full 40 minutes. Cooper appears disinterested thus far. Its making the alarm bells go off a bit.


Defensively this team actually isn't that bad. They've ranked pretty respectably across most defensive metrics, notably being 8th in DRTG. I attribute having PJ, Flagg, Christie, and Naji on the wings is helping that.


I am just sad guys. This is a bad team. I don't think they are going anywhere any time soon. Nico's creation, as many believed in February, is doomed to fail. The quicker we eject and salvage some assets the quicker we can hope to get back to where we were with Luka. Cooper is the future. Hopefully someone with a modicum of power within the Mavs can see this.

(11-04-2025, 05:00 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: This team is very bad.

Extremely bad.

I've watched a lot of basketball over my years and this team is approaching the status of worst of all time. Ridiculous given the talent they have on this roster, but.... the the vibes are just all off. I cannot tell you from exactly what is the main cause, but you can feel it.

There is no offensive identity. There is no flow. There is absolutely nothing from possession to possession that makes me believe that any of the 5 players is comfortable being out there.  It shows. The Mavs are 30th in the NBA this season in basically every offensive metric. They currently have a 103.4 ORTG, which is behind other offensive powerhouses like the Washington Wizards and New Orleans Pelicans. But relative to the league they are about 12 points behind league average. That is the lowest in franchise history. Not even the teams in the 90s had such a bad offense relative to league average.

Its such a glaring issue that its insurmountable. And one can argue missing AD for 3 out of the 7 games hasn't helped (i don't count the one where he never returned) and could be skewing the numbers, but the teams' offensive rating with AD on the court hasn't changed. Its a systemic issue. In fact, the only player that has a marked difference thus far vs. being on the court vs. off has been DLo. Which I don't think its a testament to DLo, but rather to how piss poor this offense is that even a guy shooting sub 40% can make them look better.

Further, Cooper Flagg has disappointed me a bit. The talent is there, but the drive? The aggression? It feels as if he's already mentally checked out. He goes through 5-10 minute stretches of basically running cardio on offense. The guy at Duke had passion for the full 40 minutes. Cooper appears disinterested thus far. Its making the alarm bells go off a bit.


Defensively this team actually isn't that bad. They've ranked pretty respectably across most defensive metrics, notably being 8th in DRTG. I attribute having PJ, Flagg, Christie, and Naji on the wings is helping that.


I am just sad guys. This is a bad team. I don't think they are going anywhere any time soon. Nico's creation, as many believed in February, is doomed to fail. The quicker we eject and salvage some assets the quicker we can hope to get back to where we were with Luka. Cooper is the future. Hopefully someone with a modicum of power within the Mavs can see this.

(11-04-2025, 06:48 PM)Smitty Wrote: Breathe. 

I don’t like the way it looks either. Maybe this team needs to trade for three difference makers. Kyrie, Davis, & Lively. They don’t have a lot of draft capital, so it will be difficult to pull off, but those three could put them over the top.

In all seriousness, I’m not even the least bit concerned about Flagg. He shows flashes of IT. That’s more than enough to give me the patience to see his growth play out. I think Kidd is playing the long game with him, and I think it’s the right call. He’ll be special. Give it time.

(11-04-2025, 12:26 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: Any surprise teh Mavs have played the top 3?

https://x.com/CBAMavs/status/1985741164532908211/photo/1

(11-04-2025, 05:00 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: This team is very bad.

Extremely bad.

I've watched a lot of basketball over my years and this team is approaching the status of worst of all time. Ridiculous given the talent they have on this roster, but.... the the vibes are just all off. I cannot tell you from exactly what is the main cause, but you can feel it.

There is no offensive identity. There is no flow. There is absolutely nothing from possession to possession that makes me believe that any of the 5 players is comfortable being out there.  It shows. The Mavs are 30th in the NBA this season in basically every offensive metric. They currently have a 103.4 ORTG, which is behind other offensive powerhouses like the Washington Wizards and New Orleans Pelicans. But relative to the league they are about 12 points behind league average. That is the lowest in franchise history. Not even the teams in the 90s had such a bad offense relative to league average.

Its such a glaring issue that its insurmountable. And one can argue missing AD for 3 out of the 7 games hasn't helped (i don't count the one where he never returned) and could be skewing the numbers, but the teams' offensive rating with AD on the court hasn't changed. Its a systemic issue. In fact, the only player that has a marked difference thus far vs. being on the court vs. off has been DLo. Which I don't think its a testament to DLo, but rather to how piss poor this offense is that even a guy shooting sub 40% can make them look better.

Further, Cooper Flagg has disappointed me a bit. The talent is there, but the drive? The aggression? It feels as if he's already mentally checked out. He goes through 5-10 minute stretches of basically running cardio on offense. The guy at Duke had passion for the full 40 minutes. Cooper appears disinterested thus far. Its making the alarm bells go off a bit.


Defensively this team actually isn't that bad. They've ranked pretty respectably across most defensive metrics, notably being 8th in DRTG. I attribute having PJ, Flagg, Christie, and Naji on the wings is helping that.


I am just sad guys. This is a bad team. I don't think they are going anywhere any time soon. Nico's creation, as many believed in February, is doomed to fail. The quicker we eject and salvage some assets the quicker we can hope to get back to where we were with Luka. Cooper is the future. Hopefully someone with a modicum of power within the Mavs can see this.

(11-04-2025, 09:42 PM)vfromlmf Wrote: Wasn't AD supposed to be reevaluated today? I see he's listed as OUT for tomorrow's game. Did anyone see an update?

(11-04-2025, 06:48 PM)Smitty Wrote: Breathe. 

I don’t like the way it looks either. Maybe this team needs to trade for three difference makers. Kyrie, Davis, & Lively. They don’t have a lot of draft capital, so it will be difficult to pull off, but those three could put them over the top.

In all seriousness, I’m not even the least bit concerned about Flagg. He shows flashes of IT. That’s more than enough to give me the patience to see his growth play out. I think Kidd is playing the long game with him, and I think it’s the right call. He’ll be special. Give it time.

(11-04-2025, 10:00 PM)ballsrchr Wrote: I am concerned about Flagg.  He does show flashes of "IT"...but he also seems to be showing signs of losing confidence.  The Mavs, Kidd?, the fans (us) have put him in an untenable, almost impossible situation.  I've seen way too many bright prospects lose confidence because of  unrealistic coaching and situations.  Carlisle was a master at this, Kidd has done it.  I'm sure others have as well, but I don't watch them.  Once the tender young star loses confidence it takes a long time to regain it...and may never reach the level they would have without the blow to their tender, young egos.  Yeah...I'm worried...

(11-05-2025, 12:42 AM)SkenfromLMF Wrote: I am scared that of all the comparisons for Flagg we might be willingly missing the most accurate one…


KVH

I don’t think I am there yet by any means, but it is a definite possibility in the outcome of his career. Especially in this environment

(11-05-2025, 12:42 AM)SkenfromLMF Wrote: I am scared that of all the comparisons for Flagg we might be willingly missing the most accurate one…


KVH

I don’t think I am there yet by any means, but it is a definite possibility in the outcome of his career. Especially in this environment

(11-05-2025, 03:57 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: Umm....ok......

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/1op8grx/nico_harrison_signing_autographs_before_a_mavs/

(11-05-2025, 03:57 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: Umm....ok......

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/1op8grx/nico_harrison_signing_autographs_before_a_mavs/