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RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: - Smitty - 05-16-2025
People, including the Lakers’ scouts and executives here in Chicago, have openly spoke about the team’s needs at the center position — an obvious priority for Pelinka and Redick.
The team has shown no interest in using Reaves in a trade that nets them anything less than a top-tier big, and there really aren’t any of those available, with the two most common names linked to them in the earliest stages of the offseason — Brooklyn’s Nic Claxton and Dallas’ Daniel Gafford.
Neither is a lock for a variety of reasons.
In Claxton, the Lakers would have the prototypical rim-protecting, lob-catching center that’s tailor-made for Doncic. Claxton’s due more than $66 million over the next three seasons and is two years removed from his most impactful stretch as a pro when he averaged 12.6 points, 9.2 rebounds and 2.5 blocks on a league-best 70.5% shooting from the field. This season in 70 games, those numbers dipped to 10.3 points, 7.4 rebounds and 1.4 blocks with 56.3% shooting.
An optimistic read on the situation would point to the Nets’ losing as a reason for his dip in production. A pessimist would point to his narrow frame (just 215 pounds), the two straight years in which his numbers have slumped and the high salary.
Gafford, we know, is a surefire Doncic fit because of their time together in Dallas. He’s about to enter the final year of his deal and plays on a roster with Dereck Lively and Anthony Davis, making it unlikely that there’s more cash headed his way from the Mavericks.
The trouble, of course, is that people around the NBA wonder how it would look if Mavericks general manager Nico Harrison engaged Pelinka and the Lakers on another trade after the last deal between the teams was so unpopular that it caused protests.
RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: - Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo - 05-16-2025
Trade Idea:
Gaff to LA, Mavs get Vit + pick 22, Hawks get defensive stopper to pair with Dyson as the team's stoppers
Mavs get Krejci+Niang+Mann+pick 22 (Walter Clayton)
Lakers get Gaff+Martin
Hawks get Vando+Vincent+future first
RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: - RasheedsBigWhiteSpot - 05-16-2025
(05-16-2025, 07:52 PM)Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo Wrote: Trade Idea:
Gaff to LA, Mavs get Vit + pick 22, Hawks get defensive stopper to pair with Dyson as the team's stoppers
Mavs get Krejci+Niang+Mann+pick 22 (Walter Clayton)
Lakers get Gaff+Martin
Hawks get Vando+Vincent+future first
Are you a Mavs fan??? Cuz this is great for everyone BUT the Mavs. I want quality vs quantity.
RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: - SleepingHero - 05-16-2025
(05-16-2025, 07:52 PM)Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo Wrote: Trade Idea:
Gaff to LA, Mavs get Vit + pick 22, Hawks get defensive stopper to pair with Dyson as the team's stoppers
Mavs get Krejci+Niang+Mann+pick 22 (Walter Clayton)
Lakers get Gaff+Martin
Hawks get Vando+Vincent+future first
Unfortunately this trade puts the Mavs further into the 2nd apron. This also caps them at 15 players on the roster and prevents them from resigning Exum for example.
RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: - SleepingHero - 05-16-2025
@GSWBallReport
REPORT: The Warriors are expected to aggressively pursue a playmaking wing defender or a center this offseason, per @ShamsCharania
A playmaking wing defender.... How many of those guys exist in the NBA?
RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: - KillerLeft - 05-16-2025
(05-16-2025, 09:21 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: @GSWBallReport
REPORT: The Warriors are expected to aggressively pursue a playmaking wing defender or a center this offseason, per @ShamsCharania
A playmaking wing defender.... How many of those guys exist in the NBA?
They just got one...how many do they need?
RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: - DanSchwartzgan - 05-17-2025
I've been trying to build something around the offer the Lakers made for Mark Williams instead coming to Dallas for Gafford. Recall, it was Knecht, 2031 and a pick swap. I like Knecht (and think he's much more likely to be moved than Reaves). But, I don't know that Knecht adds what Dallas needs.
So, I need a third team (maybe even a fourth team to eat some necessary outgoing LA salary). Knecht projects to be a really good 3 point shooter. You know who needs 3 point shooting? Orlando. Do they have a PG I'd like? Yeah, Black.
Orlando is in an interesting position as the East seems quite open right now. I could see Knecht as the Gary Harris replacement in Orlando, but they aren't dealing Black straight up for Knecht unless it is part of a bigger deal. Could they decide to go for Giannis?
They've given big money to Suggs and Wagner and this summer it's Banchero's turn. That is just a status quo move and status quo hasn't gotten them very far. What if it was a Banchero plus picks package for Giannis. LA was giving up some draft assets in the Mark Williams deal. Maybe those go to Milwaukee instead of Dallas. Orlando has plenty of its own picks to trade. Maybe Dallas adds something for the spread between Gafford and Black. I'd be a big fan of adding Black to the Cooper/Lively/Christie timeline. He's got the size to play alongside Kyrie when he returns.
It isn't hard to make the money work.
LA sends out Knecht/Maxi and gets Gafford.
Dallas sends out Gafford and gets Black/Harris (expiring...TO was picked up to make the $ work).
Orlando gives up Banchero, Isaac, Anthony, Black and Harris and gets Giannis and Knecht.
Milwaukee gives up Giannis and gets Banchero, Isaac (flexible contract), Maxi (expiring), Anthony (TO after one year) and obviously draft capital from several teams.
The natural question is why wouldn't Milwaukee just take Black. That is an issue. My assumption is they need draft capital to try to regain control of their own draft picks (now owned by New Orleans and Portland). Portland doesn't need Black, but I could certainly see the Pelicans being interested. Anyway, just toying around with unrealistic ideas like everyone else.
RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: - loki - 05-17-2025
(05-17-2025, 09:52 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: I've been trying to build something around the offer the Lakers made for Mark Williams instead coming to Dallas for Gafford. Recall, it was Knecht, 2031 and a pick swap. I like Knecht (and think he's much more likely to be moved than Reaves). But, I don't know that Knecht adds what Dallas needs.
So, I need a third team (maybe even a fourth team to eat some necessary outgoing LA salary). Knecht projects to be a really good 3 point shooter. You know who needs 3 point shooting? Orlando. Do they have a PG I'd like? Yeah, Black.
Orlando is in an interesting position as the East seems quite open right now. I could see Knecht as the Gary Harris replacement in Orlando, but they aren't dealing Black straight up for Knecht unless it is part of a bigger deal. Could they decide to go for Giannis?
They've given big money to Suggs and Wagner and this summer it's Banchero's turn. That is just a status quo move and status quo hasn't gotten them very far. What if it was a Banchero plus picks package for Giannis. LA was giving up some draft assets in the Mark Williams deal. Maybe those go to Milwaukee instead of Dallas. Orlando has plenty of its own picks to trade. Maybe Dallas adds something for the spread between Gafford and Black. I'd be a big fan of adding Black to the Cooper/Lively/Christie timeline. He's got the size to play alongside Kyrie when he returns.
It isn't hard to make the money work.
LA sends out Knecht/Maxi and gets Gafford.
Dallas sends out Gafford and gets Black/Harris (expiring...TO was picked up to make the $ work).
Orlando gives up Banchero, Isaac, Anthony, Black and Harris and gets Giannis and Knecht.
Milwaukee gives up Giannis and gets Banchero, Isaac (flexible contract), Maxi (expiring), Anthony (TO after one year) and obviously draft capital from several teams.
The natural question is why wouldn't Milwaukee just take Black. That is an issue. My assumption is they need draft capital to try to regain control of their own draft picks (now owned by New Orleans and Portland). Portland doesn't need Black, but I could certainly see the Pelicans being interested. Anyway, just toying around with unrealistic ideas like everyone else.
Good call on Anthony Black. I've been wondering how to land him as well before he has a breakout season and becomes untouchable. He definitely fits the profile of the kind of guard the Mavs would want.
I've been a little hesitant to post anything that's effectively Gafford straight up for Black since it is a bit of gamble, but I don't hate it. Rolling it into a Giannis trade seems hard to work. There are some Magic fans who have had interest in Gafford so maybe a simpler deal is possible. I'm a little skeptical their front office would go for it though given how much money they have tied up in the center position.
RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: - vfromlmf - 05-17-2025
I like Black but if they hope to make the playoffs I think they target a veteran who knows how to read the game. Holiday, Smart, Ball, Tyus Jones, McConnell. Haven’t heard Brogdon mentioned much. After seeing Flagg initiate in that scrimmage video I wonder if he might get a decent amount of time on the ball until Kyrie gets back. I still like Bruce Brown but starting PG is probably a stretch. I highly doubt they bring in another young player.
Simmons, Coby White, and Sexton feel like expensive scoring guards who don’t read the game well defensively. The effort may be there but maybe not the BB IQ. It’s like Kuminga. It’s reported GSW is targeting a playmaking wing defender which is quite an indictment of Kuminga’s game.
RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: - myconsumerclub - 05-18-2025
(05-17-2025, 10:14 AM)loki Wrote: Good call on Anthony Black. I've been wondering how to land him as well before he has a breakout season and becomes untouchable. He definitely fits the profile of the kind of guard the Mavs would want.
I've been a little hesitant to post anything that's effectively Gafford straight up for Black since it is a bit of gamble, but I don't hate it. Rolling it into a Giannis trade seems hard to work. There are some Magic fans who have had interest in Gafford so maybe a simpler deal is possible. I'm a little skeptical their front office would go for it though given how much money they have tied up in the center position.
Definitely something worth looking into doing. He could become a decent PG that is Luka sized but would Orlando agree.
RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: - Knutsen - 05-19-2025
(05-18-2025, 10:00 PM)myconsumerclub Wrote: Definitely something worth looking into doing. He could become a decent PG that is Luka sized but would Orlando agree.
I think the Magic would definitely be interested in putting Gafford next to Banchero and Wagner, wouldn’t they? Especially since Moritz Wagner is injured and doesn’t have a contract and Carter Jr. is kind of smallish and can play the four as well.
I was looking at them as a potential great fit for Gafford a couple of days ago, but didn’t identify Black as an interesting piece for us, but was looking at their draft pick plus a veteran guard and didn’t find a match - so thanks for that!
RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: - Chicagojk - 05-19-2025
Would you do this trade?
Haven't seen either of these mentioned here, both are pretty interesting, per Sam Quinn at CBS:
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-mock-trades-five-possible-post-lottery-deals-as-giannis-kd-move-for-top-picks-another-lakers-mavs-swap/
Trade 1: Mavericks-Lakers round 2
Mavericks get: Anfernee Simons
Lakers get: Daniel Gafford
Blazers get: Maxi Kleber, Caleb Martin, Dalton Knecht, Dwight Powell, Lakers' unprotected 2029 (from Mavericks) and 2031 first-round picks, 2030 swap rights with the Lakers
RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: - Chicagojk - 05-19-2025
Would you do this trade? I personally wouldn't include our Lakers first. I am also against helping the Lakers.
Haven't seen either of these mentioned here, both are pretty interesting, per Sam Quinn at CBS:
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-mock-trades-five-possible-post-lottery-deals-as-giannis-kd-move-for-top-picks-another-lakers-mavs-swap/
Trade 1: Mavericks-Lakers round 2
Mavericks get: Anfernee Simons
Lakers get: Daniel Gafford
Blazers get: Maxi Kleber, Caleb Martin, Dalton Knecht, Dwight Powell, Lakers' unprotected 2029 (from Mavericks) and 2031 first-round picks, 2030 swap rights with the Lakers
RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: - Mavs2021 - 05-19-2025
(05-19-2025, 03:42 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: Would you do this trade?
Haven't seen either of these mentioned here, both are pretty interesting, per Sam Quinn at CBS:
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-mock-trades-five-possible-post-lottery-deals-as-giannis-kd-move-for-top-picks-another-lakers-mavs-swap/
Trade 1: Mavericks-Lakers round 2
Mavericks get: Anfernee Simons
Lakers get: Daniel Gafford
Blazers get: Maxi Kleber, Caleb Martin, Dalton Knecht, Dwight Powell, Lakers' unprotected 2029 (from Mavericks) and 2031 first-round picks, 2030 swap rights with the Lakers
As the official President of the Simons fanclub, I obviously have to comment.
Are you all aware he has only one year left on his contract? He says I want to go to Dallas and Dallas only, Gafford + Powell + Hardy + 1st should be enough.
Portland can turn around and trade Gafford for another 1st and test Hardy for two years at medium costs. He´s still a 38% career 3pt shooter that needs minutes at SG.
No reason to give up two 1sts. Lakers also basically get Gafford for nothing here, since Knecht is the fee for eating Maxi´s deal.
RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: - Chicagojk - 05-19-2025
(05-19-2025, 04:28 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: As the official President of the Simons fanclub, I obviously have to comment.
Are you all aware he has only one year left on his contract? He says I want to go to Dallas and Dallas only, Gafford + Powell + Hardy + 1st should be enough.
Portland can turn around and trade Gafford for another 1st and test Hardy for two years at medium costs. He´s still a 38% career 3pt shooter that needs minutes at SG.
No reason to give up two 1sts. Lakers also basically get Gafford for nothing here, since Knecht is the fee for eating Maxi´s deal.
I believe in The proposed trade the Lakers are giving up their 31 pick. Dallas included the 29 pick from the Lakers.
RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: - SleepingHero - 05-19-2025
(05-19-2025, 03:42 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: Would you do this trade?
Haven't seen either of these mentioned here, both are pretty interesting, per Sam Quinn at CBS:
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-mock-trades-five-possible-post-lottery-deals-as-giannis-kd-move-for-top-picks-another-lakers-mavs-swap/
Trade 1: Mavericks-Lakers round 2
Mavericks get: Anfernee Simons
Lakers get: Daniel Gafford
Blazers get: Maxi Kleber, Caleb Martin, Dalton Knecht, Dwight Powell, Lakers' unprotected 2029 (from Mavericks) and 2031 first-round picks, 2030 swap rights with the Lakers
2 FRPs PLUS Gafford is exceedingly rich for Anfernee Simons.
I mean is he even worth a single first alone?
RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: - vfromlmf - 05-19-2025
Agree, feels like way too much for Simons. This is a player Blazers fan are ready to move off of, who struggled as a primary initiator, and who doesn't play any defense. He'll also need a new contract. I could be wrong but Simons seems like a classic high-pace scoring combo guard off the bench. Nice to have, but I don't think that's what the Mavs need or are looking for.
DeAaron Fox was traded for Lavine (bad contract) + three ones and he's a much better player than Simons.
Dejounte Murray was traded for Dyson Daniels and two ones.
TBH I'd rather have Dyson Daniels than Simons.
RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: - SleepingHero - 05-19-2025
Honestly, the more I think about how desperate the Mavs are for shooting, the less I want to trade PJ Washington. Further, AD and Lively have shown they need a reliable backup. Gafford is definitely that.
What if our real tradeable assets are Naji (9), Martin (9.5), Hardy (6), and OMax (3)?
RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: - Smitty - 05-19-2025
(05-19-2025, 05:13 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Honestly, the more I think about how desperate the Mavs are for shooting, the less I want to trade PJ Washington. Further, AD and Lively have shown they need a reliable backup. Gafford is definitely that.
What if our real tradeable assets are Naji (9), Martin (9.5), Hardy (6), and OMax (3)?
Fine with me. Who’s the target? Coby? Lonzo?
RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: - Chicagojk - 05-19-2025
On the other hand Utah fans have higher expectations for Sexton. He is expiring but the general consensus was Pj and a future first.