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RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: - F Gump - 06-29-2025
(06-29-2025, 06:10 PM)RasheedsBigWhiteSpot Wrote: Just sayin'...
Klay, Gafford, Naji, Martin and OMax
for
Lebron
is EXACTLY $52.6 million for $52.6 million...
...soooooo
An edit to make it "workable" from Mavs POV ....
LAL gets Klay, Gafford, Naji, Martin and OMax AND HARDY AND POWELL
for
DAL gets Lebron AND 2031 FRP
7-for-1. If LAL figures out how to offload some of Mavs' outgoing to team 3, Mavs do have enough cap space to refill empty spaces.
Mavs are left with:
Lively
AD
PJW
Flagg
Max
Kyrie
B Will
(and LBJ incoming)
Fill roster with merry minimums. (Plan B: can have MLE if only have 14 players, in which case the cushion under A2 is ~1M).
Would you dare? LAL obviously likes it and begs you to do it.
RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: - omahen - 06-29-2025
You guys actually think a team would be doing LA a favor to get them out of LeBron expiring deal, so that they would pay a pick and take back trash contracts? Lakers don't need or want to trade LeBron and it will only happen if it will be a win-win-win deal. LeBron going to where he would want, that team able to stay competitive and Lakers getting a fair compensation.
RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: - cow - 06-29-2025
(06-29-2025, 06:56 PM)F Gump Wrote: An edit to make it "workable" from Mavs POV ....
LAL gets Klay, Gafford, Naji, Martin and OMax AND HARDY AND POWELL
for
DAL gets Lebron AND 2031 FRP
7-for-1. If LAL figures out how to offload some of Mavs' outgoing to team 3, Mavs do have enough cap space to refill empty spaces.
Mavs are left with:
Lively
AD
PJW
Flagg
Max
Kyrie
B Will
(and LBJ incoming)
Fill roster with merry minimums. (Plan B: can have MLE if only have 14 players, in which case the cushion under A2 is ~1M).
Would you dare? LAL obviously likes it and begs you to do it.
No chance Nico gets '31. Bronnie would need to be included. Can you keep Bron for 1-2 more years after this season while keeping the band together (PJW)? I still think '26-27 is our best shot at a run.
RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: - mvossman - 06-29-2025
(06-29-2025, 06:56 PM)F Gump Wrote: An edit to make it "workable" from Mavs POV ....
LAL gets Klay, Gafford, Naji, Martin and OMax AND HARDY AND POWELL
for
DAL gets Lebron AND 2031 FRP
7-for-1. If LAL figures out how to offload some of Mavs' outgoing to team 3, Mavs do have enough cap space to refill empty spaces.
Mavs are left with:
Lively
AD
PJW
Flagg
Max
Kyrie
B Will
(and LBJ incoming)
Fill roster with merry minimums. (Plan B: can have MLE if only have 14 players, in which case the cushion under A2 is ~1M).
Would you dare? LAL obviously likes it and begs you to do it.
I would do it. I don't think LA would be willing to give up the first.
RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: - Smitty - 06-29-2025
(06-29-2025, 06:56 PM)F Gump Wrote: An edit to make it "workable" from Mavs POV ....
LAL gets Klay, Gafford, Naji, Martin and OMax AND HARDY AND POWELL
for
DAL gets Lebron AND 2031 FRP
7-for-1. If LAL figures out how to offload some of Mavs' outgoing to team 3, Mavs do have enough cap space to refill empty spaces.
Mavs are left with:
Lively
AD
PJW
Flagg
Max
Kyrie
B Will
(and LBJ incoming)
Fill roster with merry minimums. (Plan B: can have MLE if only have 14 players, in which case the cushion under A2 is ~1M).
Would you dare? LAL obviously likes it and begs you to do it.
It would never happen, but I’m not shedding a tear for any of those outgoing.
Comes down to if Gafford, Naji, Klay is worth Lebron. I’m out, but my opinion doesn’t mean much.
Edit: What does LA do with all those extra roster spots? The math may work for the Mavs, but what about the Lakers?
RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: - RasheedsBigWhiteSpot - 06-29-2025
(06-29-2025, 06:56 PM)F Gump Wrote: An edit to make it "workable" from Mavs POV ....
LAL gets Klay, Gafford, Naji, Martin and OMax AND HARDY AND POWELL
for
DAL gets Lebron AND 2031 FRP
7-for-1. If LAL figures out how to offload some of Mavs' outgoing to team 3, Mavs do have enough cap space to refill empty spaces.
Mavs are left with:
Lively
AD
PJW
Flagg
Max
Kyrie
B Will
(and LBJ incoming)
Fill roster with merry minimums. (Plan B: can have MLE if only have 14 players, in which case the cushion under A2 is ~1M).
Would you dare? LAL obviously likes it and begs you to do it.
After the initial deal I did, I came up with a separate Hardy and Christie to the Nets for their 2026 2nd (should be #31) and 2-3 additional future 2nds.
This would get the Mavs to below the 1st Apron and give them the full $15.6 MLE. They could go all in on Championship or bust and break it up with Paul/D-Lo, Horford, Kai Jones and something else or try and get somebody big for the full enchilada.
RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: - KillerLeft - 06-29-2025
(06-29-2025, 07:06 PM)omahen Wrote: You guys actually think a team would be doing LA a favor to get them out of LeBron expiring deal, so that they would pay a pick and take back trash contracts? Lakers don't need or want to trade LeBron and it will only happen if it will be a win-win-win deal. LeBron going to where he would want, that team able to stay competitive and Lakers getting a fair compensation.
The real question is: while many teams still probably day dream about seeing LeBron run the court in their uniform, how many of them would be be willing to part with the kind of players attached to the salaries it would take to get it done? Obviously, a 7-for-1 isn't gonna happen, and in any 2 or 3-for-1 scenario, some very good players are probably headed to LA. I doubt it's a worthwhile endeavor for anyone involved, at the end of the day.
RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: - Chicagojk - 06-29-2025
I just don’t see it. For any team really. I think LeBron and the lakers are Lebron are stuck with each other for another year.
Mavs have mostly good players on good/decent contracts. They should have a good team. Not a contender next year. Although let’s see what Cooper is and can be and then build a strategy around that.
Trading for a guy who may have a year left or maybe longer and giving up,solid players just doesn’t add up for me.
RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: - Chicagojk - 06-29-2025
Jabari Smith resigned for 5 years and 122 million. They are going to be tough for awhile.
I know Cam Whitmore may be a gunner, but if I am a bad team he would really interest me. I wonder what his market value is?
RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: - omahen - 06-29-2025
(06-29-2025, 07:50 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: The real question is: while many teams still probably day dream about seeing LeBron run the court in their uniform, how many of them would be be willing to part with the kind of players attached to the salaries it would take to get it done? Obviously, a 7-for-1 isn't gonna happen, and in any 2 or 3-for-1 scenario, some very good players are probably headed to LA. I doubt it's a worthwhile endeavor for anyone involved, at the end of the day.
Agree. Such a move would be very difficult. I also think way too much is given into the statements made. I think it is more about LeBron dragging attention to himself and using a bit of leverage for the team to improve. But, I don't think he has much leverage left. If he would have, he would get a new 1+1 deal.
Any potential move would be instigated by LeBron. He would pick a team that he would like to go to and that could match the salary without gutting the team. Looking around the league, Mavs actually do make for most realistic option. They have a bunch of contracts and since no great players would be going to LA, they do have picks to compensate. Miami would also likely be able to pull it off, but Wiggins, Rozier and Robinson is a real meh package and it would have to be heavily compensated with picks or some additional young players.
RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: - omahen - 06-29-2025
(06-29-2025, 08:05 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: Jabari Smith resigned for 5 years and 122 million. They are going to be tough for awhile.
I know Cam Whitmore may be a gunner, but if I am a bad team he would really interest me. I wonder what his market value is?
Some ideas related to Whitmore and DFS are floating around.
Houston can offer DFS full MLE. Not sure why Lakers wouldn't match that or why DFS would be so more willing to go to Houston than resign with Lakers for same money. Houston could offer more for DFS doing a SnT with Whitmore and Landale. Whitmore would be headed to a third team for a center. Of course additional pieces could be involved pending on who that center would be.
Connecting together some dots. No idea why Utah traded for Nurkic with Kessler and Filipowski on the team. Lakers are long rumored to be after Kessler, but their offer is light with just one FRP and Knecht. Whitmore could be a very interesting player for a team like Utah. Although there is some overlap with Ace Bailey. Whitmore+2031FRP+Knecht is a nice package.
Another option I could see is a similar concept with NO. They just gave an unprotected FRP for that centar at #13. It would be strange if he is not their starter, which makes Yves Missi a bit redundant. He had a good rookie season, but he is not that special. Whitmore+2031 pick+Knecht for Jones+Missi could be fair value. Of course someone in his right mind wouldn't trade such an excellent defender as Jones, but NO has made more head scratching moves lately.
RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: - Smitty - 06-29-2025
I messed around and came up with one Lebron trade I could possibly stomach. (Only if PJW won’t sign an extension)
DAL: Lebron, Bronny, ‘26 FRP (ATL), ‘31 FRP (LAL)
LAL: Klay, Gafford, Martin
ATL: PJW
This is perfectly legal and the Mavs can use the TPMLE and add a Vet Min to get to 14 spots:
Kyrie | DLO* | B-Will | Bronny
Christie | Exum* | Hardy
Lebron | Naji
Flagg | Omax
AD | Lively | Jones*
(Powell trade for air, send ‘30 SRP)
DLO - TPMLE
Exum - Min
Jones - Min
The Dallas Lakers
RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: - F Gump - 06-29-2025
(06-29-2025, 07:18 PM)Smitty Wrote: Edit: What does LA do with all those extra roster spots? The math may work for the Mavs, but what about the Lakers?
No prob. Mavs (Nico, once again) solves LA's problem (LBJ), for only one FRP. LA will gladly deal with extra bodies that ensue, if any, by finding swaps to other teams. Easy peasy.
RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: - cow - 06-29-2025
(06-29-2025, 08:38 PM)Smitty Wrote: I messed around and came up with one Lebron trade I could possibly stomach.
DAL: Lebron, Bronny, ‘26 FRP (ATL), ‘31 FRP (LAL)
LAL: Klay, Gafford, Martin
ATL: PJW
This is perfectly legal and the Mavs can use the TPMLE and add a Vet Min to get to 14 spots:
Kyrie | DLO* | B-Will | Bronny
Christie | Exum* | Hardy
Lebron | Naji
Flagg | Omax
AD | Lively | Jones*
(Powell trade for air, send ‘30 SRP)
DLO - TPMLE
Exum - Min
Jones - Min
The Dallas Lakers
Including PJW was my solution to the "7-for-1" problem. Glad you figured out a way to include another FRP as only 1 for PJW/Gafford (the Luka special) just seems incredibly light. Something tells me LA would want to keep PJW though so that would kill my interest. Mavericks becoming the Lakers and the Lakers becoming the Mavericks would be kind of funny though.
It would need to be done in the offseason as I'd want LeBron to help recruit CP3. I think LeBron probably plays three more seasons maybe less if he gets another ring. That fits in with the shelf life of AD/Kyrie and, more importantly, Nico.
RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: - F Gump - 06-29-2025
(06-29-2025, 07:39 PM)RasheedsBigWhiteSpot Wrote: After the initial deal I did, I came up with a separate Hardy and Christie to the Nets for their 2026 2nd (should be #31) and 2-3 additional future 2nds.
This would get the Mavs to below the 1st Apron and give them the full $15.6 MLE. They could go all in on Championship or bust and break it up with Paul/D-Lo, Horford, Kai Jones and something else or try and get somebody big for the full enchilada.
"This would get the Mavs to below the 1st Apron and give them the full $15.6 MLE." -- Sad to say, not close. Using those swaps, Mavs would end with an excess of 15.5M-18.0M in payroll if they are wishing to use the 14.1M MLE.
Lively, AD, Kyrie, LBJ, PJ, Flagg is ~177M, and filling empty slots is min of ~2.3M each, landing you around A1 already (w/ only 14 players signed).
A2 would be a major squeeze, frankly.
RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: - omahen - 06-29-2025
Ayton is being bought out by Portland. I will be surprised if he doesn't sign with Lakers now. Same agent as Luka
RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: - Smitty - 06-29-2025
@ShamsCharania
Breaking: Deandre Ayton is finalizing a contract buyout with the Portland Trail Blazers to become a free agent, sources tell ESPN.
RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: - Tyler - 06-29-2025
https://x.com/ShamsCharania/status/1939513083338322366
RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: - omahen - 06-29-2025
Interesting things on the center market. BKN didn't pick up Sharpe qualifying offer and now Portland buying out Ayton. Lakers could get their center position patched up without giving assets, saving them for wing upgrades
RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: - F Gump - 06-29-2025
(06-29-2025, 08:38 PM)Smitty Wrote: I messed around and came up with one Lebron trade I could possibly stomach. (Only if PJW won’t sign an extension)
DAL: Lebron, Bronny, ‘26 FRP (ATL), ‘31 FRP (LAL)
LAL: Klay, Gafford, Martin
ATL: PJW
This is perfectly legal and the Mavs can use the TPMLE and add a Vet Min to get to 14 spots:
Kyrie | DLO* | B-Will | Bronny
Christie | Exum* | Hardy
Lebron | Naji
Flagg | Omax
AD | Lively | Jones*
(Powell trade for air, send ‘30 SRP)
DLO - TPMLE
Exum - Min
Jones - Min
The Dallas Lakers
Interesting. I dunno if I like or not. It's a lot to give.
One revision needed imo. If PJW goes to Hawks, they have to take Powell also, saving Mavs a pick. Still a major bargain for them, and maybe also revise so a diff player in the mix goes there instead.
And ... w LBJ to DAL, could we also pencil in CP3 for the MLE? Much better player and more help imo.