(07-19-2025, 07:10 PM)Smitty Wrote: I have a sneaky suspicion that Martin WILL start the season in the Mavs 10-man rotation. Really, Kidd plays 11-man rotations in the regular season. Still, when everyone is healthy, I see B-Will being the odd man out. I like him, but DLO and Exum are better and Flagg will play some point-forward also. In those instances, B-Will doesn’t provide the same off-ball advantages that DLO and Exum do.

In the end, Nico traded for Martin, and his salary/skillset tells me that he’ll play. At least to start the season. He’s by far the best POA defender on the team and has some playmaking ability. Nico/Kidd will give him the rope early, to see if the vision/trade was what they thought it’d be.

DLO 26 - Exum 16 - (Flagg 6)
Klay 24 - Christie 16 - Martin 8
Flagg 24 - Naji 16 - (Martin 8)
AD 22 - PJW 26
Gafford 20 - Lively 18 - (AD 10)

AD 32
Flagg 30
PJW 26
DLO 26
Klay 24
Gafford 20

Lively 18
Exum 16
Christie 16
Naji 16
Martin 16


This will be so rare, that it’s almost not worth talking about. I imagine there will only be a handful of games where EVERYONE is healthy, but it’s easy to see a path where these 11 all get minutes they’re used to getting, even in the ~10 games they’re all available.

(07-19-2025, 08:12 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Despite fairly good numbers at times, no one seems to want to pay Grimes and the assets it takes to get him when he's traded are less than impressive.  At the time it all happened, it made sense to move from Green to Grimes and from THJ to Klay.  Green finally got to start and saw his usage actually go down on a bad team.  And, as mentioned, THJ was a rental and is now a Vet Min.  But, Klay and Martin don't seem to be the answer either...especially at guard.  Because of his status around the league, you can't just ship Thompson off to some cellar dweller.   Meanwhile, Martin looks like someone who is going to really be costly from a tax standpoint if he's indeed the 12th man or so on the depth chart.

(07-22-2025, 06:59 AM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45790173/all-30-nba-teams-roster-mistakes-2020



All 30 teams roster mistakes since 2020

(07-22-2025, 07:53 AM)ballsrchr Wrote: I especially like #1...

It was pretty spot on.

(07-22-2025, 02:12 PM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: Regardless of how the future plays out between both teams, this has to be top five for the worst trade ever, no matter what sport.

(07-22-2025, 02:12 PM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: Regardless of how the future plays out between both teams, this has to be top five for the worst trade ever, no matter what sport.

(07-22-2025, 04:08 PM)DallasMaverick Wrote: Hmm…

Isn’t the big question about how the future plays out?

For example, Luka ruptures an Achilles in November, and never plays again.  AD wins 4 championships with the Mavs. Do you still believe it was a bad trade?

(07-22-2025, 04:08 PM)DallasMaverick Wrote: Hmm…

Isn’t the big question about how the future plays out?

For example, Luka ruptures an Achilles in November, and never plays again.  AD wins 4 championships with the Mavs. Do you still believe it was a bad trade?

(07-22-2025, 04:53 PM)Jmaciscool Wrote: Yes, it was a bad trade.  There aren't any what-ifs or what-abouts that can happen that will change that.

To me the above scenario is like saying "if you bet your life savings on one roll of the dice in Vegas and win a ton of money then doesn't that make it a good decision?"  It's still a bad decision even if an unlikely positive outcome is the result.

(07-22-2025, 08:06 PM)Winter Wrote: I was listening to Jason Timpf's podcast about the Lakers moves this off-season.

Essentially, he said this could go pretty bad given the history. The Lakers are relying on the health and professionalism of LeBron who's over 40, Doncic who is frequently out of shape, Ayton who has real maturity issues, and Smart who had had trouble playing half a season for the last six years. Even LaRiva has had trouble staying healthy in his short career. The Lakers are relying on perfect health to be competitve in the playoffs.

And of course, none of the players mentioned have played a full season together.

(07-22-2025, 08:14 PM)DallasMaverick Wrote: But wait…

Aren’t you saying that we need to see results before we render a judgement on the trade?

Can’t we just render an opinion and be done with it?

(07-22-2025, 08:12 PM)DallasMaverick Wrote: I guess I’m stuck. Aren’t results the only real measure of a value-based decision?

Back in 1990, I kept my Novell stock and sold my Microsoft stock. In retrospect, it was a really bad trade - because of the results.

I suppose that, if you’re using some other measure than team success, you could render an absolute and immediate judgment.

So, let me try to state your position: “The Luka trade was a bad trade because I don’t like it.”

I certainly can’t argue with that!

(07-22-2025, 08:06 PM)Winter Wrote: I was listening to Jason Timpf's podcast about the Lakers moves this off-season.

Essentially, he said this could go pretty bad given the history. The Lakers are relying on the health and professionalism of LeBron who's over 40, Doncic who is frequently out of shape, Ayton who has real maturity issues, and Smart who had had trouble playing half a season for the last six years. Even LaRiva has had trouble staying healthy in his short career. The Lakers are relying on perfect health to be competitve in the playoffs.

And of course, none of the players mentioned have played a full season together.

(07-22-2025, 08:06 PM)Winter Wrote: I was listening to Jason Timpf's podcast about the Lakers moves this off-season.

Essentially, he said this could go pretty bad given the history. The Lakers are relying on the health and professionalism of LeBron who's over 40, Doncic who is frequently out of shape, Ayton who has real maturity issues, and Smart who had had trouble playing half a season for the last six years. Even LaRiva has had trouble staying healthy in his short career. The Lakers are relying on perfect health to be competitve in the playoffs.

And of course, none of the players mentioned have played a full season together.

(07-23-2025, 09:17 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: Mavs at #19 in the athletic rankings post draft and most of free agency.

San Antonio at 20

Dallas Mavericks

Last ranking: 17
Free agency: PG Kyrie Irving (re-signed), SF Dante Exum (re-signed), C Dwight Powell (exercised option)
Additions: SF Cooper Flagg (draft), PG D’Angelo Russell
Departures: PG Spencer Dinwiddie

Midsummer summary: Dallas has something of a crowded roster and needs to shed a standard contract. But whoever that player might be, No. 1 pick Flagg replaces them. Automatic upgrade! The only other roster change of note is that Russell is here to replace Dinwiddie, which should be another upgrade for the Mavericks, although Russell had a forgettable season that saw him drop below 40 percent from the field for the first time in his career. It will be up to Flagg and Russell to run Dallas’ offense and find Anthony Davis, who is recovering from surgery to repair a detached retina. Elsewhere in the surgery department, center Dereck Lively II had foot surgery this month. While Davis and Lively should be ready for camp, it underscores the lack of availability both players have had. Availability, of course, is a major concern for Kyrie Irving as well, who re-signed about four months after tearing his ACL. There is more than enough size here, but Irving isn’t saving the shaky guard play that this team projects to have.