2021 FREE AGENCY: Markkanen wants out of CHI | DAL "definitely interested" - Printable Version +- MavsBoard (https://www.mavsboard.com) +-- Forum: Boards (https://www.mavsboard.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=1) +--- Forum: Dallas Mavericks and the NBA (https://www.mavsboard.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=2) +--- Thread: 2021 FREE AGENCY: Markkanen wants out of CHI | DAL "definitely interested" (/showthread.php?tid=1072) Pages:
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RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL to pursue Lowry & THJ as free agency opens - omahen - 07-30-2021 (07-30-2021, 01:26 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: Just a question and would like to hear other answers. What do you think gives you the best chance of signing Lowry? These days players like to buddy up on same team, so I would definitely go after that duo. I think that would be a skilled summer. Of course operating over the cap with THJ as one of outgoing salaries in SnT RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL to pursue Lowry & THJ as free agency opens - F Gump - 07-30-2021 (07-30-2021, 01:31 PM)omahe Wrote: I think that Sac-Mem alleged proposal makes no sense, there must be other pieces involved that were not mentioned. If you are Memphis and you have Sac offer of Bagley (9 mil) and #9 for Valanciunas and #17, do you really prefer 2 years of Adams and Bledsoe at 35 mil and #10? I am certain that offer was not on the table. I assume the SAC offer looked like the NO offer, with pick 17 heading back the other way, and taking Bagley being the price for MEM to move up from 17 to 9. Like the NO deal, MEM was willing to take on salary. As for why they would prefer the NO offer, the Grizz are looking for paths to win now. Adams gives them a very useful player at center to replace JV, probably a starter. Bagley is just dead weight. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL to pursue Lowry & THJ as free agency opens - omahen - 07-30-2021 (07-30-2021, 01:46 PM)F Gump Wrote: I assume the SAC offer looked like the NO offer, with pick 17 heading back the other way, and taking Bagley being the price for MEM to move up from 17 to 9. Like the NO deal, MEM was willing to take on salary. I am not convinced at all. Memphis is certainly not in win now, they are patiently rebuilding. Taking 9 mil of salary instead of 50 mil is a no brainer. First option would enable them to have 20 mil of cap space. They could find a cheaper center of similar quality than that. Even from Sac perspective. Dumping Bagley would cost a SRP, max. More realistically someone would still see an upside and offer a second rounder. This would enable them to throw a lot of money at Holmes, who is arguably much better than JV. And they would keep the high pick. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL to pursue Lowry & THJ as free agency opens - IamDougieFresh - 07-30-2021 Who do we need to dump to have enough money for Lowry + THJ? Only Dwight answers please. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL to pursue Lowry & THJ as free agency opens - F Gump - 07-30-2021 (07-30-2021, 02:13 PM)omahen Wrote: Taking 9 mil of salary instead of 50 mil is a no brainer. Apparently the pieces coming and going didn't add up like you think. Go figure. (07-30-2021, 02:32 PM)IamDougieFresh Wrote: Who do we need to dump to have enough money for Lowry + THJ? Only Dwight answers please. One avenue would be to get Lowry via sign-and-trade, with something like DP and J-Rich going to TOR. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL to pursue Lowry & THJ as free agency opens - Thukydides - 07-30-2021 One avenue would be to get Lowry via sign-and-trade, with something like DP and J-Rich going to TOR. My understanding is that we can´t keep THJ and sign Lowry into space. So wouldn´t this be the only possible way? RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL to pursue Lowry & THJ as free agency opens - F Gump - 07-30-2021 (07-30-2021, 03:01 PM)Thukydides Wrote: There would have to be outgoing salary in some fashion. A sign-and-trade for Lowry is the most efficient way to do it. Powell-JRich is one possibility for the salary matching if it's an over-cap trade, and perhaps one of the simplest. But there are a lot of other ways to skin that cat. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL to pursue Lowry & THJ as free agency opens - Thukydides - 07-30-2021 (07-30-2021, 03:10 PM)F Gump Wrote: There would have to be outgoing salary in some fashion. A sign-and-trade for Lowry is the most efficient way to do it. Powell-JRich is one possibility for the salary matching if it's an over-cap trade, and perhaps one of the simplest. But there are a lot of other ways to skin that cat. Raptors will not eat Powell. There would have to be some incentive for them. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL to pursue Lowry & THJ as free agency opens - DrMav - 07-30-2021 (07-30-2021, 03:15 PM)Thukydides Wrote: Raptors will not eat Powell.I would certainly hope not. As much as a lot of people want to get rid of him, Dwight is still a good guy and no one wants him to be cannibalized. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL to pursue Lowry & THJ as free agency opens - Hogmelon - 07-30-2021 (07-30-2021, 03:17 PM)DrMav Wrote: As much as a lot of people want to get rid of him, Dwight is still a good guy and no one wants him to be cannibalized. Yeah, but Raptors gotta eat. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL to pursue Lowry & THJ as free agency opens - Thukydides - 07-30-2021 (07-30-2021, 03:19 PM)Hogmelon Wrote: Yeah, but Raptors gotta eat. Damn, you beat me to it RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL to pursue Lowry & THJ as free agency opens - cow - 07-30-2021 Someone had to do it. Confused the Rex with the Raptor, so this is more appropriate, DwightCam: RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL to pursue Lowry & THJ as free agency opens - Scott41theMavs - 07-30-2021 (07-30-2021, 01:11 PM)Hogmelon Wrote: So, in your opinion, there are only two possibilities for the future of the Dallas Mavericks: What I'm saying is, the other main free agents seem not to want to come here (except Norman Powell, but we'll choose THJ over him, because evidently the defensive end of the floor is a figment of we fans' imagination ) or are spoken for elsewhere. It appears that if we don't get Lowry, we will be gleaning scraps - not like Holmes, but rather MLE-types that we'll pay the amount of money we ought to be paying THJ. This is the final year before Luka's max. To have that happen would be an epic fail. We would be going into next season (and the years to come) with a very slightly superior roster to last year's poopshow. Someone mentioned the unfortunate events of the Wright, JRich, and Burke acquisitions. To have new players only slightly better when 1) this is our final chance to right that ship and 2) we just hired a front office that supposed to be so much better at pursuing this type of model would be disastrous. We have two decent NBA starters in Luka and DFS. Last time I checked, NBA teams need five. Three or four would be nice all things considered. So, yeah, Lowry, or unmitigated disaster, or Scott41 is (very improbably but very happily) wrong. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL to pursue Lowry & THJ as free agency opens - cow - 07-30-2021 (07-30-2021, 03:39 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: What I'm saying is, the other main free agents seem not to want to come here (except Norman Powell, but we'll choose THJ over him, because evidently the defensive end of the floor is a figment of we fans' imagination ) or are spoken for elsewhere. It appears that if we don't get Lowry, we will be gleaning scraps - not like Holmes, but rather MLE-types that we'll pay the amount of money we ought to paying THJ. This is the final year before Luka's max. To have that happen would be an epic fail. We would be going into next season (and the years to come) with a very slightly superior roster to last year's poopshow. We have two decent NBA starters in Luka and DFS. Last time I checked, NBA teams need five. Three or four would be nice all things considered. Again, Nico said they already have 15 scenarios and expects those to double. I'm not trying to blow sunshine but let's doom and gloom after we fail, if we fail. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL to pursue Lowry & THJ as free agency opens - wmffl87 - 07-30-2021 (07-30-2021, 11:02 AM)Kammrath Wrote: https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1421133956007743488 Alright alright I had no idea why the Nets would want those two bums. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL to pursue Lowry & THJ as free agency opens - StepBackJay - 07-30-2021 (07-30-2021, 03:15 PM)Thukydides Wrote: Raptors will not eat Powell. There would have to be some incentive for them. Prob like Brunson. The bigger problem is talking Lowry into the Mavs if Heat are in the mix. Lakers are out on DMR. Who other than the Knicks would be hot for DMR? I wish Mavs would go after him especially if they can get a good deal. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL to pursue Lowry & THJ as free agency opens - cow - 07-30-2021 (07-30-2021, 04:09 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: Prob like Brunson. The bigger problem is talking Lowry into the Mavs if Heat are in the mix. Knicks have a lot of money and are rumored to have interest. I think a good deal is probably out the window for someone of his stature. RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL to pursue Lowry & THJ as free agency opens - DanSchwartzgan - 07-30-2021 (07-30-2021, 08:54 AM)omahen Wrote: Draft night gave some action but there is still a lot open: Good recap. The other thing about Charlotte is they loaded up on guards and don't really need to go under the cap any more. Feels like one too many. If you are them, do you let an improving Monk walk and then deal with Rich Paul's demands for Rozier a year from now. Or, do you try to get something for Rozier now and keep Ball/Bouknight backed eventually by Graham, Monk and Riller? I really like Maxi...I really do. But, I wonder if he'd be valued in SA next to Poeltl instead of bringing back Rudy Gay. Is that the path to DeRozan and someone? Feels to me like Turner to Boston with Smart taking the place of the departed Holiday more than Turner to Charlotte. I will say, Charlotte needs a "consolidation trade". RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL to pursue Lowry & THJ as free agency opens - ClutchDirk - 07-30-2021 https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1421130566016065540 RE: 2021 FREE AGENCY: DAL to pursue Lowry & THJ as free agency opens - ClutchDirk - 07-30-2021 https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1421224078824910852 |