(12-15-2024, 04:05 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: That’s totally fine and I appreciate your perspective regarding the politics viewpoint. I don’t think it’s the main reason why viewership is down, but I think it should be mentioned in terms of gaffs. 
 
I think the national anthem isn’t political, as it’s a foundational thing that all Americans, regardless of party, are represented in and are apart of. Whether other Americans believe that or not is an entirely separate issue and a different conversation. I don’t care to debate politics at all. My main issue bringing it up was that as commissioner, Silver potentially polarized his viewership and ostracized close to half the country. 

Soccer has ads on jerseys because there are zero ad breaks for 45 mins at a time. Just a 15 min halftime break where it’s usually commentary about the 1st half. So in lieu of commercial breaks, there are ads on jerseys. That I understand. But the NBA is the furthest thing from that. We have a 3-5 minute ad break every 4-5 mins of game time. On top of in game ads, on top on ads on jerseys, on top of ads on courts. It’s ridiculous. 

In regards to gambling, I don’t care if people do it. I’m fine if Vegas allows people to bet on the league. What I don’t like is representatives and stewards of the league actively promoting gambling. I don’t need the Mavs saying they are partnering up with Fanduel for free bets. I don’t like Barkley giving me his parlay bets. It’s annoying. Leave that out of it.


And I suppose I should frame it as, Adam silver is a horrible commissioner for me, the consumer. He’s made it hard for me to watch the game. He’s diluted the product. He’s polarized the product. But at the same time, he’s made his bosses a boatload of money. But at what cost? Well we see it in the viewership numbers.

(12-15-2024, 04:43 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: Politics... the anthem is shoved down our throats, again with heinous pro-slavery verses.  That's what the BLM movement is...  rethink what we have blindly accepted.  If you truly want to de-politicize the NBA, drop the anthem.  70% of NBA players are black.  You don't think the league should take that into consideration?  

Silver...  the boatload of money you refer to comes fans.  It's capitalism.  Boatloads of money = boatloads of fans giving their money.  It's the definition of success.

The league doesn't worry about the likes of you and me.  We're not going away.  It's about expanding the fanbase more than catering to we actual fanatics.  For me, the game has become more and more enjoyable.

(12-15-2024, 03:55 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: Gambling... to me that's like people thinking certain crimes are up (that aren't) simply because it's covered more.  I lived in NOLA during the point shaving scandal.  Where gambling is dangerous is when you leave it in the dark.

(12-15-2024, 04:09 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: The NBA is the only major league in America that actively makes it as difficult as possible to watch their games. 

Adam Silver as a commissioner has failed every which way. I'm shocked he hasn't been ousted, but I suppose he has generated record breaking revenue for the owners.

(12-16-2024, 11:47 AM)RoyTarpleysGhost Wrote: ^  Getting rid of ALL back to backs seems like an obvious first step.  But I guess there are reasons they don't want to extend the regular season another two weeks?

Reducing the number of games will never happen for money reasons.

(12-16-2024, 02:21 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: This "reduced viewership" conversation isn't new. There have been conversations about this for like a decade. I don't understand the economics involved, really, but the league doesn't seem bothered, and revenue continues to go up, as evidenced by the rising cap and salaries.

It has seemed to me like the NBA is fine with people not watching full games, as they've pointed out how ahead of the curve they are with things like social media engagement, fans following their season like a soap opera, etc. I have no idea whether it's good for the health of basketball as a sport, but I don't think the NBA as a business is hurting in the least.

(12-16-2024, 01:43 PM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: I think the national anthem isn’t political, as it’s a foundational thing that all Americans, regardless of party, are represented in and are apart of.

This is inherently wrong. ALL Americans AREN'T represented and felt apart of.

(12-16-2024, 03:28 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: If you read the next sentence, you'd have answered your next post. 

Regardless, we can debate about it on ROTW, not on the Mavs side. We get enough politics everywhere else in our lives.

(12-16-2024, 01:43 PM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: I think the national anthem isn’t political, as it’s a foundational thing that all Americans, regardless of party, are represented in and are apart of.

This is inherently wrong. ALL Americans AREN'T represented and felt apart of.

(12-17-2024, 09:18 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: https://twitter.com/BricksCenter/status/1868851728722096321

THJ still being THJ LOL


What's even more hilarious is that he hit 3 threes in OT to help put the game away. The THJ experience in a nutshell.

(12-17-2024, 01:16 PM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: He helped them win a game. What's wrong with that?  LOL