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RE: AROUND the NBA: Bezos Not Interested In Celtics? - HoosierDaddyKid - 08-27-2024

https://x.com/HarrisonWind/status/1828074316459872729?ref_src=


Looks like Westbrook didn't offer him enough money for 0, lol


RE: AROUND the NBA: Bezos Not Interested In Celtics? - HoosierDaddyKid - 08-27-2024

https://basketnews.com/news-210968-jeanie-buss-on-lebron-being-lakers-highest-paid-player-still-a-bargain.html#google_vignette


Jeanie Buss says LeBron's contract is still a bargain.


RE: AROUND the NBA: Bezos Interested In Celtics? - SleepingHero - 08-27-2024

(08-27-2024, 07:13 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: I was listening to bill Simmons podcast from a few weeks ago.  He was saying the asking price for the Celtics is 6 billion.  He thought they would get it.  He said the expansion teams (Seattle and Vegas, with Mexico City maybe in the furture) would be 6 billion.   He said if this happens each team would get 400 million.   

With the new TV deal, the Mavs run and and maybe now expansion, it certainly feels like Cuban left money on the table.  Thoughts?

Cuban absolutely left money on the table. I suppose he valued the 27% he's left with...?

Not sure. Feels like Cuban could've easily gotten 4.5 or even 5 billion if he waited for a bit. I guess having a piece of the future casino in Dallas is worth that pay cut.


RE: AROUND the NBA: Bezos Not Interested In Celtics? - F Gump - 08-27-2024

I'm guessing the Mavs carried a lot of debt, which impacted the value of the team when he sold it. While the franchise looks successful on paper because of appreciation, you don't get any of that in your bank account. The Mavs were also probably forced to revenue-share with other teams because of the DFW market size, and media rights with RSN's have become quite unreliable as a source of income.

Over time negative cash flow turns into bigger and bigger debt, which compounds against revenues. And it was slated to get even worse going forward - with a deeper talent base and Luka about to hit supermax status, there will be way more payroll and tax ahead every year.

For a certain number of years, there are depreciation tax write-offs that allow an owner to offset the cash drain with tax savings, but eventually that equation erodes when the losses are bigger and the write-offs (based on economics from years ago) are relatively smaller.

Adelson is a MUCH BIGGER fish financially in relation to the cash to erase all the past debt and start fresh, along with cash to sustain annual outlays. She also gets brand new write-offs using today's economics. It's a completely different model for her.


RE: AROUND the NBA: Bezos Not Interested In Celtics? - Ghost of Podkolzin - 08-27-2024

(08-27-2024, 11:31 AM)F Gump Wrote: I'm guessing the Mavs carried a lot of debt, which impacted the value of the team when he sold it. While the franchise looks successful on paper because of appreciation, you don't get any of that in your bank account. The Mavs were also probably forced to revenue-share with other teams because of the DFW market size, and media rights with RSN's have become quite unreliable as a source of income.

Over time negative cash flow turns into bigger and bigger debt, which compounds against revenues. And it was slated to get even worse going forward - with a deeper talent base and Luka about to hit supermax status, there will be way more payroll and tax ahead every year.

For a certain number of years, there are depreciation tax write-offs that allow an owner to offset the cash drain with tax savings, but eventually that equation erodes when the losses are bigger and the write-offs (based on economics from years ago) are relatively smaller.

Adelson is a MUCH BIGGER fish financially in relation to the cash to erase all the past debt and start fresh, along with cash to sustain annual outlays. She also gets brand new write-offs using today's economics. It's a completely different model for her.

There's a ton to what you are saying.  Cuban said that the ownership turned into more real estate investment, development, management than basketball ops.  Cuban hates real estate investment, is all about marketing products and services.


RE: AROUND the NBA: Bezos Not Interested In Celtics? - HoosierDaddyKid - 08-28-2024

(08-27-2024, 11:31 AM)F Gump Wrote: I'm guessing the Mavs carried a lot of debt, which impacted the value of the team when he sold it. While the franchise looks successful on paper because of appreciation, you don't get any of that in your bank account. The Mavs were also probably forced to revenue-share with other teams because of the DFW market size, and media rights with RSN's have become quite unreliable as a source of income.

Over time negative cash flow turns into bigger and bigger debt, which compounds against revenues. And it was slated to get even worse going forward - with a deeper talent base and Luka about to hit supermax status, there will be way more payroll and tax ahead every year.

For a certain number of years, there are depreciation tax write-offs that allow an owner to offset the cash drain with tax savings, but eventually that equation erodes when the losses are bigger and the write-offs (based on economics from years ago) are relatively smaller.

Adelson is a MUCH BIGGER fish financially in relation to the cash to erase all the past debt and start fresh, along with cash to sustain annual outlays. She also gets brand new write-offs using today's economics. It's a completely different model for her.



Great explanation.


RE: AROUND the NBA: Bezos Not Interested In Celtics? - HoosierDaddyKid - 08-28-2024

https://x.com/TomerAzarly/status/1828522747263361398?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1828522747263361398%7Ctwgr%5E69a04b05b8fb0d2bec7db79080cb5e1ebab48ac7%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fhoopshype.com%2Frumors%2F


The Brodie says he didn't even ask Braun for #0
wants to start fresh with a different number. lol


RE: AROUND the NBA: Bezos Not Interested In Celtics? - HoosierDaddyKid - 08-29-2024

https://clutchpoints.com/nba-player-arrested-shoplifting-at-target-ryan-rollins


Now this is a shame...


RE: AROUND the NBA: Bezos Not Interested In Celtics? - DallasMaverick - 08-29-2024

(08-29-2024, 02:49 PM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: https://clutchpoints.com/nba-player-arrested-shoplifting-at-target-ryan-rollins


Now this is a shame...

Sin isn’t rational.


RE: AROUND the NBA: Bezos Not Interested In Celtics? - Chicagojk - 08-29-2024

Story about former Mav WCS

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5727058/2024/08/29/willie-cauley-stein-the-basketball-tournament/?source=user_shared_articleWillieCauley-Steindodgeddeath,recoveredandthencamehome%E2%80%94toKentucky%E2%80%94toletlovehealhim


RE: AROUND the NBA: Bezos Not Interested In Celtics? - RGP1981 - 08-30-2024

GOAT Clark just demolished the Chicago Sky... 31 Points, 12 Assists, 4 Rebounds... on 57/60/90% shooting!

Are you guys watching any of this? This girl is special. It's like 1984 all over again, when MJ entered the NBA. She should be on the WNBA 1st Team and in the MVP conversation, in her rookie season. So if you missed 1984, don't miss this. Big Grin

https://www.reddit.com/r/IndianaFever/

And still ESPN (BSPN?) has the nerve to insinuate that Reese is leading the ROTY... while Reese was stat-padding in the final minutes against the Fever's reserves to get a double-double, lol.


RE: AROUND the NBA: Bezos Not Interested In Celtics? - KillerLeft - 08-30-2024

(08-30-2024, 09:51 PM)RGP1981 Wrote: GOAT Clark just demolished the Chicago Sky... 31 Points, 12 Assists, 4 Rebounds.

Are you guys watching any of this? This girl is special. It's like 1984 all over again, when MJ entered the NBA. She should be on the WNBA 1st Team and in the MVP conversation, in her rookie season. So if you missed 1984, don't miss this. Big Grin

https://www.reddit.com/r/IndianaFeverFans/

And still ESPN (BSPN?) has the nerve to insinuate that Reese is leading the ROTY... while Reese was stat-padding in the final minutes against the Fever's reserves to get a double-double, lol.

Meh. Happy for her, but wake me up when she's playing against the guys.


RE: AROUND the NBA: Bezos Not Interested In Celtics? - RGP1981 - 08-30-2024

I posted the wrong Reddit subforum above. The busy one and the one to join is:

https://www.reddit.com/r/IndianaFever/


RE: AROUND the NBA: Bezos Not Interested In Celtics? - RGP1981 - 08-30-2024

(08-30-2024, 10:01 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Meh. Happy for her, but wake me up when she's playing against the guys.

You're missing out on all the fun and excitement, KL!

I can't find a better way for men's basketball fans to fill the void of the NBA off-season than keeping up with GOAT Clark and the Fever.

Honestly, it's more fun than even the NBA. Tongue




RE: AROUND the NBA: Bezos Not Interested In Celtics? - SleepingHero - 08-31-2024

(08-30-2024, 10:59 PM)RGP1981 Wrote: You're missing out on all the fun and excitement, KL!

I can't find a better way for men's basketball fans to fill the void of the NBA off-season than keeping up with GOAT Clark and the Fever.

Honestly, it's more fun than even the NBA. Tongue

WNBA is great comedy sometimes for sure.

Aside from Clark, who is the only skilled WNBA player I've seen, it's a comedy fest.


RE: AROUND the NBA: Bezos Not Interested In Celtics? - HoosierDaddyKid - 09-01-2024

https://x.com/lawmurraythenu/status/1829649833415847956?s=46

https://x.com/TimBontemps/status/1829648266537157079



Tough blow for Memphis and GG Jackson with a broken foot.


RE: AROUND the NBA: Bezos Not Interested In Celtics? - Ghost of Podkolzin - 09-01-2024

(09-01-2024, 10:50 AM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: https://x.com/lawmurraythenu/status/1829649833415847956?s=46

https://x.com/TimBontemps/status/1829648266537157079



Tough blow for Memphis and GG Jackson with a broken foot.

That kid is going to be a star.


RE: AROUND the NBA: GG Jackson of MEM Breaks Foot Out At least 3 Months - SleepingHero - 09-04-2024

Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania)
Grizzlies’ GG Jackson II will miss at least three months after undergoing surgery to repair a broken fifth metatarsal in his right foot.


RE: AROUND the NBA: GG Jackson of MEM Breaks Foot Out At least 3 Months - F Gump - 09-04-2024

(09-04-2024, 02:20 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania)
Grizzlies’ GG Jackson II will miss at least three months after undergoing surgery to repair a broken fifth metatarsal in his right foot.

 FYI that's not a sure timeline. That's the Roddy B injury.


RE: AROUND the NBA: GG Jackson of MEM Breaks Foot Out At least 3 Months - SleepingHero - 09-04-2024

(09-04-2024, 04:34 PM)F Gump Wrote:  FYI that's not a sure timeline. That's the Roddy B injury.

So you're saying it's time for Memphis fans to start the chant "Free GG"? 

I found this image from 7 years ago detailing all NBA players up until that point, so 2017, who sustained a 5th metatarsal fracture and the games they missed:

[Image: 5p7JwYs.png]

The average missed game time for this injury was 39.5 games.