(03-16-2025, 06:32 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: Dennis Lindsay would like a word with you.

(03-16-2025, 07:10 PM)cow Wrote: I'll only talk to our past or present GMs.

(03-16-2025, 04:56 PM)bubbler86 Wrote: He has had 4-5 seasons where he was above 30%.  When I said 30-40 I meant between it, not actual 40.   30-34% is fine.

(03-16-2025, 04:52 PM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: Damn, seems like Phoenix doesn't want the 10th spot either. They're stinking it up vs the Lakers minus LeBron, and Rui. Luka is making Jaxson Hayes look like a All Star. Mavs might make the play-in by default. Phoenix is horrible, yet they have limited options to get better..They need to blow it up in the worse way. Matt Ishbia has destroyed that team trying to build a superteam of players that don't mesh.

(03-17-2025, 04:00 AM)Knutsen Wrote: Grimes is averaging 26.1 points, 5 rebounds and 4.4 assists along with 2.1 steals in 8 games in March, with excellent percentages. How can you throw such a player away?

He‘d be easily able to get these numbers on this depleted Mavs team right now, then you have great asset in the summer to sign and trade or keep while getting rid of someone else.

It‘s so sad how we destroyed a team on the brink of winning it all without reason.

(03-17-2025, 09:51 AM)Nowitzki Way Wrote: I'd like to know if the reports are true that Grimes asked to be traded after we traded Luka.

I can see him saying he would not re-sign here no matter what and Nico getting what he could for him. But why give up the valuable 2nd rounder too? That trade made absolute zero sense.

(03-17-2025, 01:24 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: I have said multiple times that I think it is fair to say some good teams would prefer Martin over Grimes.  Grimes was good here.  His passing and self creation was a nice surprise.  He would have fit in real well when it was just Kyrie and no big guys.  I also thought Grimes defense was god.  In my limited viewing I think Martin is better there though.  His offense is the big swing skill there.  Not sure if he is going to be able to shoot well enough for what we need.

I don’t think Grimes is an 18 pt a game scorer on a good team.  Probably between 10-13.

The issue for me was always the second round pick.  I guarantee you I will like several guys at pick 36.  That pick with a player may have been enough for a guy like Coby white.  Now, besides our first round pick, we really don’t have the ammo for trades.  I don’t think white is with pick number 10 plus a player.

(03-17-2025, 02:21 PM)DallasMaverick Wrote: Let’s face it: very, very few second round picks make it in the NBA. Every once in awhile there’s an outlier. More like a lottery ticket than a meal ticket.

Don’t overvalue them.

(03-17-2025, 02:55 PM)mvossman Wrote: Early second round picks have legit value.  The quality of player is not that different from late first rounders, and you have more options from a contract perspective.  Lets also not forget that Brunson was an early second round pick.  Even if you miss on several chances, it only takes one hit to make a big difference, but that can't happen if your GM keeps giving them away like candy.

(03-17-2025, 03:37 PM)DallasMaverick Wrote: Yes, they have some value.

https://fansided.com/posts/nba-draft-pick-value#:~:text=Between%201980%20and%202020%2C%20the,came%20in%20at%2022.1%20VORP.

(03-17-2025, 01:06 PM)mvossman Wrote: The rumor is his agent asked for the trade, but Grimes said he was surprised to be traded.  He was a restricted free agent, so Mavs could match any other offer.  He could threaten to take the qualifying offer (very unlikely) but there is no hint he wanted out that badly.  As in the Luka trade, Occam's Razor says it was simply GM incompetence.