(06-04-2025, 05:53 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: I keep going back to Dyson Daniels; I'd take him over Herbert Jones.  Younger, plays better D, and is precisely what we need in a PG.

IMO, we overvalue DLive and undervalue AD.  This works, and I think gives us a chip.

DLive/OMax for Daniels works

Daniels, Exum
Kyrie, Klay, Christie
Flagg, Matin
PJ,  Naji
AD, Gafford

(06-04-2025, 05:53 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: I keep going back to Dyson Daniels; I'd take him over Herbert Jones.  Younger, plays better D, and is precisely what we need in a PG.

IMO, we overvalue DLive and undervalue AD.  This works, and I think gives us a chip.

DLive/OMax for Daniels works

Daniels, Exum
Kyrie, Klay, Christie
Flagg, Matin
PJ,  Naji
AD, Gafford

(06-04-2025, 09:22 PM)F Gump Wrote: I have questions and tweaks to the idea, but if Lively is outgoing, Daniels is way more the type of return I would have to see. Thank you.

Wondering ...
1 Is Daniels really a PG who can run an offense and get the ball up the floor? If so, I'm very interested. If not, not so much.
2 Would ATL be open to trading him, and do they really need a C more than they need Daniels? If so, I'm very interested. If not, this won't get off the ground.

But I'm still quite hesitant. IMO Lively's ceiling is really high. (That's tempered a bit for me because of his tendency to get hurt easily and often.)

Tweak issues ...
DLive/OMax doesn't quite get there for me, because it will ADD to Mavs payroll due to the 2-for-1, when the Mavs need to be going the other way capwise. The cap issue has to be addressed. And including OMax, his outgoing salary doesn't really help enough to matter (his salary is barely more than the minimum salary you will use to refill his roster spot).

However, if you increase the salary outgoing alongside Lively, then it makes way more sense and becomes much more enticing to me. What would I want to see? I probably couldn't say no to Lively/Martin/Hardy/Powell for Daniels/13/22. (And if they would only offer 0 or 1 of the picks, or preferably a future 1st rather than a current one, I might still pull the trigger.)

(06-05-2025, 07:28 AM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: https://x.com/CourtsideBuzzX/status/1929929932764749948


Suns reportedly lowering their asking price on KD

(06-05-2025, 06:46 AM)FireNicoHarrison Wrote: I don't think Atlanta would trade Daniels for D-Liv unfortunately for us.

I like a lot D-Liv a lot but he is another 40games season away to be a big problem for us.

(06-05-2025, 08:37 AM)Winter Wrote: Sometimes I think we over-react on these injuries. Just because a player has a couple of injuries, doesn't automatically place him in some "injury-prone" category.  Bad luck happens. Exum hurt his wrist and broke his finger in practice. Kyrie has an injury a lot of players have. Marshall missed a bunch of games because of a weird sickness. AD has had a bunch of 70-game seasons, and the last one was two years ago - but we call him "street clothes"

On the other hand, do we think Chris Paul is an iron man for playing 82 games? This is the first time Chris Paul has played 82 games in over a decade. If Chris Paul had missed the typical number of games most 39-year olds miss in a season, we probably wouldn't even discuss him as an incoming option.

I do think there are very specific issues for big men playing in the paint. I also think certain body types (Porzingas) don't lend themselves to a physical game. And there are things like tendenitis that you have to monitor. But I really don't look at Lively's body and think "injury prone." I think the first couple of years in the NBA require some very specific conditioning, and he's no exception to that. Just my opinion.

(06-05-2025, 12:48 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: History disagrees with you.  The NBA road of history is littered with with top talents never getting out of the injury bug.

(06-05-2025, 01:26 PM)Winter Wrote: I never said that it wasn't. But it feels to me like you just really want to profile Lively as one of those "made of glass" players to make your point to trade him. 

Lively has played a grand total of two seasons.

(06-05-2025, 12:53 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: @TheDunkCentral

People in Kevin Durant’s camp are eyeing San Antonio as a landing spot, per @Gambo987

(06-05-2025, 01:49 PM)omahen Wrote: I really don't understand why SA would do this. Durant is very old and will likely start to decline soon. Far from even Fox timeline, who is 29, let alone Wemby. I also don't think he makes SA an instant contender, even though the #2 pick could help. They would have to give up at least one good young player. Either a combination of Barnes/Keldon/Sochan or Vassel/Keldon or Barnes. Durant value will only decline in time. I would be way more patient, if I am SA (the only exception would be Giannis, if available and wants to resign). Basically keep the current roster other than perhaps play around the edges, add the #2 pick and play the season with the goal to make the playoffs. See what you have and go for the big fish in 2026.