(06-03-2025, 12:23 PM)michaeltex Wrote:  Obviously, the team is thin at PG, but re-signing a healthy Exum and seeing if BWill can continue developing while waiting on Kyrie's return might be enough. 

(06-03-2025, 12:39 PM)cow Wrote: Agree with all you said, but this will almost certainly not be enough.  It's also why the pet cat idea of Ball is bothersome, as even with him in the mix, that's probably not enough.  I loved Ball before his nightmare injury, but he seems a lot more like a luxury experiment rather than someone you'd need to depend on.  And even if Exum/Ball could stay healthy and with BWill, I'm not sure they'd keep you competitive and, foolish or not, the organization is going to want to be competitive as Nico is certainly on the hot seat.  It's a tricky situation given our cap/asset situation.

(06-03-2025, 12:39 PM)cow Wrote: Agree with all you said, but this will almost certainly not be enough.  It's also why the pet cat idea of Ball is bothersome, as even with him in the mix, that's probably not enough.  I loved Ball before his nightmare injury, but he seems a lot more like a luxury experiment rather than someone you'd need to depend on.  And even if Exum/Ball could stay healthy and with BWill, I'm not sure they'd keep you competitive and, foolish or not, the organization is going to want to be competitive as Nico is certainly on the hot seat.  It's a tricky situation given our cap/asset situation.

(06-03-2025, 01:20 PM)michaeltex Wrote: I know this sounds dense, but which Ball are we talking about? Lonzo or LaMelo?

Lonzo Averages - 48 gms, 11.4/5.5/5.8 shooting .398/.362/.599 (7 seasons)
LaMelo Averages - 47 gms, 21.0/6.0/7.4 shooting .421/.365/.837 (5 seasons)

In my mind it's LaMelo, but I remember CHI giving Lonzo a 2yr contract to help make him more "tradeable". TBH, nothing really inspirational about either.

(06-03-2025, 12:49 PM)DallasMaverick Wrote: Every scenario involves risk of injury.

There is NO scenario in which you can say with 100% certainty "We've got that covered."

We're dealing with uncertainty at every moment.  Who could have foreseen that the Mavs would be playing a substantial number of games with no bigs available last year?  Really? What are the odds?

Because it happened once, do you feel compelled to mitigate against it now? So, maybe the Mavs should be trying to trade for another center right now, just so they can be "certain" that it won't be a problem.  

Sometimes injuries happen. Sometimes you lose as a result.

(06-03-2025, 01:55 PM)michaeltex Wrote: I know the NBA writers don't have a lot to write about right now. Everything is pretty much on hold until after the championship series and you can only preview the draft so many times. So they have fallen to dreaming up trade scenarios to keep the clicks coming. Mostly I ignore these except for the amusement of "what were they smoking when coming up with this?"

One that is kind of annoying (in that it shows the depths of idiocy some will bend to) because it has popped up a few places is DAL's 2025 #1 to PHX for Booker, 2025 #29 and least favorable pick swaps in 2028 (NYK/WAS) and 2029 (CLE/MIN/UTA). I mean you would expect a writer covering the league to have some concept of real value of the components of a trade. Booker is a hell of a talent, but (given the history) why would anyone expect him to happily settle in DAL and play productively?

Anybody sense I don't have much patience with most beat writers?

(06-03-2025, 12:23 PM)michaeltex Wrote: I agree. There is something to be said for drafting Flagg and then seeing what can be done farther down the bench with Powell/Hardy/Martin. Wouldn't mind making a spot to see if Jones can continue to contribute. Obviously, the team is thin at PG, but re-signing a healthy Exum and seeing if BWill can continue developing while waiting on Kyrie's return might be enough. 

Kidd is known for playing with lineups and rotations for the first few months anyway, so, unless someone makes you an offer you can't refuse, see what you have with the guys who are here. We never really saw a healthy team post-TDL last year. AD was out, DLive was out and Gaff was out until the last few games. PJ missed time with nagging knee issues. Naji had the suspension and some kind of nagging illness all season. We got positive glimpses of Jones and BWill in and around 10 day contracts and 2-way game limitations. And that was all on top of the time Luka missed pre-trade.

I realize this doesn't really address the salary cap/apron and extension issues. But as a fan, I am content with seeing what this team looks like before making a bunch of trades just to make them. Mid-December up to the TDL might offer more interesting trades not available this summer.

(06-03-2025, 07:05 PM)Chicagojk Wrote:  
The NBA has changed since this championship and maybe playing without elite floor spacing is a losing battle, but just got me thinking.

(06-03-2025, 04:58 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: I know the Mavs think this team is ready to win now.  I am less doubtful they can return to a contender next year.  There just seems to be too many unknowns and moving parts.  Therefore, if things go right this year, I think the following year is when they could be a contender.    That is why I am a little uneasy making a big move now.   Who knows what this thing looks like when we see them on the court.   Maybe the needs change.   If you see a clear upgrade, make the move.   Although don't be pressured to make a move.

(06-03-2025, 11:27 PM)FireNicoHarrison Wrote: The question is different, can Harrison survive to another mediocre/bad Mavs season? I don't think so.

(06-04-2025, 12:01 AM)F Gump Wrote: Sorry, but to me the question is never about Nico. I don't really care about NTI. He is who he is (an idiot in a job that needs a genius). He needs to be fired. Nothing changes that. And whatever happens (in spite of him here), I'm not interested in factoring in how that impacts him still being here.

I hope the Mavs are already looking for his replacement, or maybe even having talks to find a true expert for the job. He should have been fired a month ago, and tomorrow isn't soon enough (but it's better than two days from now). He's gotta go period.

(06-04-2025, 06:22 AM)david75090 Wrote: I'm having trouble with the discussions of this Mavs move and that Mavs move, because I don't want Nico making any of 'em. The first move is to fire Nico. There can be no other move until that happens. Myself, I don't want Nico doing anything else to the team. He's done enough. I cringe at the thought of what else he might do.

(06-04-2025, 08:39 AM)david75090 Wrote: Saw something on YouTube. It was a radio station interview with Chuck Cooperstein after The Trade. It wasn't a DFW station but a Mavs network station. Among other things they were talking about Mavs sales people having to call up folks, trying to sell tickets and renewals of tickets and the abuse these innocents were having to take from those that they were talking to on the phone. It was something I hadn't considered. I imagined myself in that position, both ways. As the person trying to make the sale, and the fan they were trying to sell to. Immediately after The Trade, I can't imagine myself being any kind of polite had anyone tried selling me tickets at that point in time. How much better has it gotten, since? Management has to be aware of the issue. It would still be an issue, with me, I'm wondering if it's still an issue fanbase wide. The Trade screwed the pooch with fans. How deep does it go? How long does ownership let this drag out before they do, what I think, is the right thing, and fire Nico?

(06-04-2025, 10:20 AM)Winter Wrote: There will likely be a day sometime in the future where we can forget Luka as a missing player.

There will never be a day, not even one, where Nico will be forgiven for allowing the franchise to get robbed. These two things will eventually separate and become two issues. Cooper Flagg can't fix the second one.

(06-04-2025, 05:53 PM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: I keep going back to Dyson Daniels; I'd take him over Herbert Jones.  Younger, plays better D, and is precisely what we need in a PG.

IMO, we overvalue DLive and undervalue AD.  This works, and I think gives us a chip.

DLive/OMax for Daniels works

Daniels, Exum
Kyrie, Klay, Christie
Flagg, Matin
PJ,  Naji
AD, Gafford