(06-05-2023, 01:36 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: I don't think so.  I've seen several instances of S/W's of only the guaranteed money in the past.

(06-05-2023, 02:10 PM)Jason Terry Wrote: But wouldn’t Bertans have to sit out the required number of games FIRST before his last year PO can be reduced to the small guaranteed buyout?

(06-05-2023, 12:25 PM)F Gump Wrote: I don't think he makes it to TDL. I think some team, either Mavs or someone else, will s-w him for cap savings both now and in the future.

(06-05-2023, 05:07 PM)loki Wrote: That may end up being the case, but I hope they try to eat his 17m cap hit this year instead. I don't want to stare at that 4.4m for 5 years. A s-w of 1.7 x 3 is less of an annoyance long term.

(06-05-2023, 03:35 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1665817178396844034?s=20

Meanwhile the glazier slow Mavs…….

(06-05-2023, 10:05 PM)DallasMaverick Wrote: I think coaching staff construction is similar to roster construction.  It's about chemistry, strengths and weaknesses.  You can't just hire a bunch of high-profile guys with winning records and expect the sum of the parts to be greater.

(06-05-2023, 11:05 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: Welp, at least we have our head coach to supply 100% of the weaknesses.

(06-06-2023, 12:03 AM)Jym Wrote: Do we currently have the worst head coach in the league?
I'm leaning towards yes

(06-05-2023, 05:07 PM)loki Wrote: That may end up being the case, but I hope they try to eat his 17m cap hit this year instead. I don't want to stare at that 4.4m for 5 years. A s-w of 1.7 x 3 is less of an annoyance long term.

(06-06-2023, 09:58 AM)F Gump Wrote: "This is where I’m at and think his value increases at the TDL."

None of us want the cap hit. But keeping Bertans' useless carcass on the bench in hopes for a trade down the road (which may or may not ever materialize), you're sacrificing the addition of one full MLE player (or a player using Wood SNT). And you're also clogging the roster which prevents having that slot to sign the most promising minimum salary guy to begin to develop. Would a deadline trade using just Bertans net more value than that? That's the question.

(06-06-2023, 10:10 AM)Mapka Wrote: There is no money gained, if we just waive him - the opposite is true, because you have to pay the player you take a flyer on.
And I'm pretty sure no min-player is as good as Bertans.
And S&W handicaps us for years.
There might be a situation where S&W im is the only way. But that would have us to get nothing for something.
So don't look for that.

(06-06-2023, 03:10 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: https://twitter.com/esidery/status/1666168252563693569

(06-06-2023, 01:10 PM)F Gump Wrote: I'm not sure I completely follow what you are saying, but ...

The idea that a s-w of Bertans gains you nothing, player-wise, is way off track. In a hard-cap-ish world, you have limits of total payroll each season. Moving the vast majority of Bertans' salary to the future, paid in installments, opens up spending room that otherwise does not exist (probably use of the full MLE and BAE), which should be able to be USEFUL players for this season and beyond (instead of Bertans).

The point being, there is indeed much to be gained, and gained immediately this season, if you s-w Bertans and create some room to spend. If you can simply swap DB for a good useful player, because some team wants to do the s-w for their own payroll purposes, then yeah count me in, but I don't think he will carry anywhere near that value (of yielding a .

As far as the statement that "I'm pretty sure no min-player is as good as Bertans," that might be true for 2023-24 but the value of the difference is minimal since 14th-15th guys will rarely play anyhow. But it's better to use that never-used player slot for working to develop a player who MIGHT end up having future value (whereas, there is no way whatsoever DB will be on the team in 2024-25).

(06-07-2023, 05:25 AM)Mapka Wrote: But if we want to go anywhere, we have to pay Kyrie not more than Luka.
And then the MLE is available already.