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RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: Free Agency Starts 5pm CST/6pm EST - F Gump - 07-21-2025

(07-21-2025, 09:47 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Goodness, what would that trade look like? LeBron has a no-trade clause, so...

SUMMARY. In simplified math, the core of the trade could in theory be a package of Hachimura, Vincent, Kleber. Together that's about 40.7M in expiring salary, enough to more than match Holiday at 32.4M, and enough room for LA to refill their roster with minimums.

TOO MUCH DETAIL. But match math gets complicated quickly. That's not quite a match so POR has to send more to LA (which then means no trade can happen until Jrue has been w POR for 2 months). There's also the question of POR wanting to stay under the tax line, and they are only a few mill below right now, so they don't have nearly that much extra space to offer.

Then there's also the question of value for POR, as it's unlikely they simply want to move off of Jrue's contract.

It's possible this could make more sense closer to the TDL, after POR has had Jrue's leadership for a while to perhaps impact the young players (before letting him go to open more minutes for those younger players), while a deal nearer the TDL allows LA to refill emptied roster slots with less cap cost (pro-rated minimums are smaller then).


RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: Free Agency Starts 5pm CST/6pm EST - omahen - 07-22-2025

I think JRue makes little sense after Lakers signed Smart and I simply don't believe this rumor by Afseth. As Gump pointed out, the deal would not be that difficult to salary match (Lakers also have a smaller salary in Knecht for fine tuning), but I don't really see how he would fit in general plans (current roster needs and keeping future flexibility). He has a long term deal, he is already old so that contract will likely lose value with years and it would certainly cost picks to get him. He would be the exact opposite of the overall strategy they took so far this summer.

If Portlands only goal would be to save money, they simply didn't need to trade expiring Simons for 3 years of JRue.


RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: Free Agency Starts 5pm CST/6pm EST - HoosierDaddyKid - 07-22-2025

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45519132/nba-free-agency-2025-reaction-grades-biggest-signings


2025 free agency reactions and grades.


RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: Free Agency Starts 5pm CST/6pm EST - SleepingHero - 07-22-2025

@TheDunkCentral
Dalton Knecht’s trade value took a massive hit after the Summer League, and teams around the league no longer view him as a first-round pick, per @jovanbuha


“Summer League has not helped Knecht’s stock, and I don’t think at this point he is valued as a first-round pick, in terms of an asset valuation. That was what I heard in Vegas from talking to multiple people, non-Lakers people, just gauging what would you give for Dalton Knecht? Or if the Lakers are putting Dalton Knecht in a trade, what is he worth? And the feedback I got was, no longer worth a first-round valuation.”


RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: Free Agency Starts 5pm CST/6pm EST - SleepingHero - 07-22-2025

@ShamsCharania

Free agent guard Blake Wesley has agreed to a one-year deal with the Portland Trail Blazers, sources tell ESPN. The former Spurs first-round pick shot 37% on 3s in second half of last season and now lands a new role in Portland.


RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: Free Agency Starts 5pm CST/6pm EST - KillerLeft - 07-22-2025

(07-22-2025, 11:37 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: @TheDunkCentral
Dalton Knecht’s trade value took a massive hit after the Summer League, and teams around the league no longer view him as a first-round pick, per @jovanbuha


“Summer League has not helped Knecht’s stock, and I don’t think at this point he is valued as a first-round pick, in terms of an asset valuation. That was what I heard in Vegas from talking to multiple people, non-Lakers people, just gauging what would you give for Dalton Knecht? Or if the Lakers are putting Dalton Knecht in a trade, what is he worth? And the feedback I got was, no longer worth a first-round valuation.”

I was shocked at how useless he was in that first summer league game. I imagine the Lakers are desperately trying to find a way to give his job to that Swindon or Swindell guy, whatever his name is.


RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: Free Agency Starts 5pm CST/6pm EST - F Gump - 07-22-2025

It will be informative to see if his stock with LA is really THAT low or not. Is he truly useless and without trade value (rather than just a case where he thinks he's too good to bother with SL effort)? LA has an option decision looming for 2026-27 on him at 4.2M, and it's rare (but not completely unheard of) for those to be declined.


RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: Free Agency Starts 5pm CST/6pm EST - KillerLeft - 07-22-2025

(07-22-2025, 12:08 PM)F Gump Wrote: It will be informative to see if his stock with LA is really THAT low or not.  Is he truly useless and without trade value (rather than just a case where he thinks he's too good to bother with SL effort)? LA has an option decision looming for 2026-27 on him at 4.2M, and it's rare (but not completely unheard of) for those to be declined.

Yeah, I don't know how LA feels about him, or whether there's any validity to this "report," but he was certainly less effective on the court than I expected, having heard the name a lot for the past year and not being overly familiar with his game.


RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: Free Agency Starts 5pm CST/6pm EST - omahen - 07-22-2025

(07-22-2025, 12:13 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Yeah, I don't know how LA feels about him, or whether there's any validity to this "report," but he was certainly less effective on the court than I expected, having heard the name a lot for the past year and not being overly familiar with his game.

All reports from Lakers are that he is trying very hard, training a lot (3 a day), in constant contact with JJ on how to improve. However, as he is one of the few assets, he is also constantly in trade rumors and was actually already traded once in the rescinded Williams trade. That must not be easy and he never looked quite same after that, imho. He had terrible SL, shooting extremely poorly. Shooting is his biggest asset and he was below 30 %. He can't really create for himself on this level, it seems. He is very athletic with good physical measurements, but it somehow doesn't translate on court much (yet?).

I think Lakers will give him plenty of opportunities in the season. But, he will have to deliver. If he doesn't, I don't think it will be anything as extreme as it was suggested here. The upside of having patience is much higher than the downside of having a player a bit over vet min that is not delivering (yet?).


RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: Free Agency Starts 5pm CST/6pm EST - omahen - 07-22-2025

(07-22-2025, 11:59 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: I imagine the Lakers are desperately trying to find a way to give his job to that Swindon or Swindell guy, whatever his name is.

Cole Swider. He is Lakers SL legend from several seasons, holding a bunch of all time SL scoring records. But, no one in the league seems to believe he can contribute with the big guys. I know he can shoot, but I didn't watch him nearly enough to judge more on other aspects of the game. I will take that scouts know what they see Smile


RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: Free Agency Starts 5pm CST/6pm EST - F Gump - 07-22-2025

(07-22-2025, 01:10 PM)omahen Wrote: I think Lakers will give him plenty of opportunities in the season. But, he will have to deliver. If he doesn't, I don't think it will be anything as extreme as it was suggested here. The upside of having patience is much higher than the downside of having a player a bit over vet min that is not delivering (yet?).

That sounds likely, assuming they don't yet consider him a lost cause. 

How long of a leash do you think he has? And what do you think the Lakers would do, if he doesn't improve?

They do have to make a decision before this season (and getting to see how he playable he is) for next season money, so they are on the hook already for a year and it can become 2 years, before anything else is really known. Money can get tight with hard caps, where even these little deals only a couple mill above minimum cause problems if the team isn't getting any useful play out of it. LA already has essentially 2 dead roster spots and if he's not usable, they're down to only 12 players to navigate the season with.


RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: Free Agency Starts 5pm CST/6pm EST - DallasMaverick - 07-22-2025

(07-22-2025, 01:10 PM)omahen Wrote: All reports from Lakers are that he is trying very hard, training a lot (3 a day), in constant contact with JJ on how to improve. However, as he is one of the few assets, he is also constantly in trade rumors and was actually already traded once in the rescinded Williams trade. That must not be easy and he never looked quite same after that, imho. He had terrible SL, shooting extremely poorly. Shooting is his biggest asset and he was below 30 %. He can't really create for himself on this level, it seems. He is very athletic with good physical measurements, but it somehow doesn't translate on court much (yet?).

I think Lakers will give him plenty of opportunities in the season. But, he will have to deliver. If he doesn't, I don't think it will be anything as extreme as it was suggested here. The upside of having patience is much higher than the downside of having a player a bit over vet min that is not delivering (yet?).

He’s becoming our OMax.


RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: Free Agency Starts 5pm CST/6pm EST - omahen - 07-22-2025

(07-22-2025, 01:31 PM)F Gump Wrote: That sounds likely, assuming they don't yet consider him a lost cause. 

How long of a leash do you think he has? And what do you think the Lakers would do, if he doesn't improve?

They do have to make a decision before this season (and getting to see how he playable he is) for next season money, so they are on the hook already for a year and it can become 2 years, before anything else is really known. Money can get tight with hard caps, where even these little deals only a couple mill above minimum cause problems if the team isn't getting any useful play out of it. LA already has essentially 2 dead roster spots and if he's not usable, they're down to only 12 players to navigate the season with.

As DallasMaverick said above. Did Mavs give up on OMax even after two seasons? Knecht just had a rookie season behind him. FRP is an investment you don't just give up on, imho. Its not like Knecht has been a complete trash. He had many very good games. He is a very good shooter. I can easily take summer league as an outlier, guys (especially career shooters) don't just forget how to shoot. I think he gets at least one more season and he would have to be a complete bust for Lakers to just dump him in whatever way. Although, unless he becomes a great player, it is most likely he will be used in a trade for a more ready player at some point.


RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: Free Agency Starts 5pm CST/6pm EST - Dahlsim - 07-23-2025

(07-21-2025, 09:09 AM)omahen Wrote: Since there is still not much going on, let me have a shout-out to our friends in the Eastern conference. Do they know, they are allowed to improve their teams? The only one that actually got seriously better is Orlando (at the cost of 4 FRP going West). Atlanta to an extent, although I am not sure if anyone can count on KP being healthy. Indy and Boston gor worse with injuries and Boston sold "half" their team. Milwaukee got worse with Lillard injury and moves they made are not making them better as they would be with Lillard.

Cleveland and NY are same, Philly is probably a lost cause due to injuries. Detroit is the same. All the rest are meh or will be openly tanking (BKN, Was). None of these meh teams made any kind of serious move to give them hope to be better than last season.
...

The Knicks have to feel they were close to Indiana who drops back significantly with their star out so they have a team that was already close to making the NBA finals. 
Probably factors into why they made the coaching change and the roster they had last season should get some growth within from key stars playing together another year.  An EC team has to view winning the East, getting to finals as the main focus since they don't have to nor can they really project or match up with a West Champion until they get there. 
For example I don't think Indiana was expected to be the East Winner but they were definitely dogs against the West Champion Thunder yet they were right there, maybe an injury away. 

Knicks, Cavs, Pistons, Magic etc. have to be seeing themselves as capable of getting out of East to get a shot at the chip. 
A few key updates in NY around the margins ... 

Quote:Knicks signed Jordan Clarkson and Guerschon Yabusele while hiring Mike Brown to replace Tom Thibodeau as their head coach.



RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: Free Agency Starts 5pm CST/6pm EST - omahen - 07-23-2025

(07-23-2025, 02:44 PM)Dahlsim Wrote: A few key updates in NY around the margins ... 

This is what I was trying to say. With the exception of Orlando, East is improving around the margins. NY added two new bench guys in Clarkson and Yabusele. They lost vets Wright, Shamet, Achiuwa and Payne who were in their rotation or on their fringes last season.  They still have 3 roster spots so some of them might return. 

Indy and Boston suffered devastating injuries to their stars and got even worse in the summer by selling or losing key players without receiving adequate replacements. East has likely three good teams in NY, Cleveland and Orlando. They might compete with the West. Everyone else is imho a tier below West top 8. Would a team like Atlanta or Detroit, who are perhaps #4 and #5 in the East, even make playoffs in the Western conference? Shitty Eastern teams with no future with their current cores (Chicago, Miami, Toronto,...) are doing nothing, because East is so wide open, that even a team like Chicago can hope to reach playoffs. 

Meanwhile in the West:
- Denver swapped a starter and got 3 proven good bench players (big Val, THJ, Brown)
- Clippers swapped Powell for Beal (lets say they are similar quality) and added Collins (starting PF) and Lopez
- Houston added Durant
- ...

Even the top picks are going West Smile


RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: Free Agency Starts 5pm CST/6pm EST - omahen - 07-23-2025

FA is happening!!! Smile

Phoenix signed Goodwin who was just waived by Lakers.


RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: Free Agency Starts 5pm CST/6pm EST - DanSchwartzgan - 07-23-2025

(07-23-2025, 04:44 PM)omahen Wrote: FA is happening!!! Smile

Phoenix signed Goodwin who was just waived by Lakers.

I read that they claimed him off of waivers...so technically, not FA Sad

Still some movement.


RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: Free Agency Starts 5pm CST/6pm EST - omahen - 07-24-2025

Some surprising early news that Luka will sign a 3+1 deal with Lakers. Perhaps this Slovenian media has some inputs from Luka or his camp, otherwise I doubt they know the details of possible deals and future salary consequences available to Luka.

https://sportklub.n1info.si/kosarka/preoblikovani-luka-doncic-se-vraca-v-zda/


RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: Free Agency Starts 5pm CST/6pm EST - DanSchwartzgan - 07-24-2025

(07-24-2025, 08:51 AM)omahen Wrote: Some surprising early news that Luka will sign a 3+1 deal with Lakers. Perhaps this Slovenian media has some inputs from Luka or his camp, otherwise I doubt they know the details of possible deals and future salary consequences available to Luka.

https://sportklub.n1info.si/kosarka/preoblikovani-luka-doncic-se-vraca-v-zda/

My mind has always gone to the 2+1 that gets him to the 35% max sooner.  Sam Quinn lines out three 'viable' options:

Sam Quinn
@SamQuinnCBS
As far as Luka's extension goes, there are three viable options:

- 1+1. This aligns him with Jokic and Giannis, if that matters to him.
- 2+1. This gets him to 10 years of service and the 35% max as early as possible.
- 3+1. Just the most money possible right now.
 
For now, Giannis and Jokic are eligible for 2027 free agency. Recent history has taught us to expect extensions and/or trade requests before that.

Look out for Luka's extension structure too. If he signs a 1+1 to align with them, maybe free agency makes a big comeback in 2027. x.com/APH00PS/status…


Not that anyone cares, but I will be in Ljubljana on 8/25.  It is a day trip excursion on a cruise I'm taking.  I don't know how much free time I'll have, but if anyone from the area has a recommendation for a must see (other than standard cruise excursion stuff), I'd love to know.


RE: Trade & FA 2025-26: Free Agency Starts 5pm CST/6pm EST - DallasMaverick - 07-24-2025

(07-24-2025, 10:10 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: My mind has always gone to the 2+1 that gets him to the 35% max sooner.  Sam Quinn lines out three 'viable' options:

Sam Quinn
@SamQuinnCBS
As far as Luka's extension goes, there are three viable options:

- 1+1. This aligns him with Jokic and Giannis, if that matters to him.
- 2+1. This gets him to 10 years of service and the 35% max as early as possible.
- 3+1. Just the most money possible right now.
 
For now, Giannis and Jokic are eligible for 2027 free agency. Recent history has taught us to expect extensions and/or trade requests before that.

Look out for Luka's extension structure too. If he signs a 1+1 to align with them, maybe free agency makes a big comeback in 2027. x.com/APH00PS/status…


Not that anyone cares, but I will be in Ljubljana on 8/25.  It is a day trip excursion on a cruise I'm taking.  I don't know how much free time I'll have, but if anyone from the area has a recommendation for a must see (other than standard cruise excursion stuff), I'd love to know.

If Luka sees his career trajectory declining rapidly, it would make sense to take the 3+1.