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RE: Buyout Market: DAL officially signs MKG | Broekhoff waived - Lukasmom - 02-14-2020
The trade and extend had to be Drummond. No one is paying Iggy top dollar and you can't extend with a pay cut.
RE: Buyout Market: DAL officially signs MKG | Broekhoff waived - ItsGoTime - 02-14-2020
Trade and extend Olynyk 3 year 30M.
RE: Buyout Market: DAL officially signs MKG | Broekhoff waived - DanSchwartzgan - 02-14-2020
(02-14-2020, 01:43 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Trade and extend Olynyk 3 year 30M.
Two things have to happen first. Season has to end and Olynyk has to opt into 20/21 PO. He could not have been the Extend and Trade at the TDL. Those can only happen in the final season of a players contract.
RE: Buyout Market: DAL officially signs MKG | Broekhoff waived - Fuerza1 - 02-14-2020
(02-13-2020, 10:45 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: It tells me that the sample size is incredibly low to draw any definite conclusions about his shooting ability. 47 attempts is pitifully low; it put MKG at 207th in the league that year.
If you take his entire career, an 8 season sample size, it shows that he is a remarkably sub-par 3pt shooter that had an outlier season if anything.
Again, not saying that this is the be all end all of MKG as a shooter. It isn't. He has room to grow, and has shown flashes like DFS did 3 years ago. But it will be a mountainous project to get him to be a reliable shooter in today's NBA, and cherry picking stats to build up any expectation of MKG's ability to be an offensive player certainly won't help him.
Yeah, anyone who believes MKG has untapped potential in 3PT shooting is reaching.
Forget his age for a second. This is his 8th NBA season and still hasn't figured it out. I am sure professional coaches and even Michael Jordan tried their hardest to help his jumper. MKG is a great kid too, great work ethic.
It's not rocket science. He just can't shoot, his mechanics suck, it is what it is.
And that's okay, we don't need him to be an outside shooter. Mavs have plenty of offense, we just need a slasher who can play defense. Something like Shawn Marion off the bench.
RE: Buyout Market: DAL officially signs MKG | Broekhoff waived - WillE - 02-14-2020
(02-14-2020, 12:56 PM)Lukasmom Wrote: The trade and extend had to be Drummond. No one is paying Iggy top dollar and you can't extend with a pay cut.
Drummond would also be possible. Too bad we will never know what numbers he declined...
To me 30 mil for 2 years of Iggy is top dollar...
RE: Buyout Market: DAL officially signs MKG | Broekhoff waived - jesusshuttlesworth82 - 02-14-2020
0 chance it was Drummond in my mind.
Mavs are into analytics. They're not acquiring a crappy player like Drummond because rebounds.
RE: Buyout Market: DAL officially signs MKG | Broekhoff waived - embellisher - 02-14-2020
(02-14-2020, 02:06 PM)Fuerza1 Wrote: And that's okay, we don't need him to be an outside shooter. Mavs have plenty of offense, we just need a slasher who can play defense. Something like Shawn Marion off the bench.
Exactly. We don't need a shooter. We need a tough, good defender who can clean up around the basket. Like Marion used to do.
RE: Buyout Market: DAL officially signs MKG | Broekhoff waived - TXBamanut - 02-14-2020
(02-14-2020, 12:56 PM)Lukasmom Wrote: The trade and extend had to be Drummond. No one is paying Iggy top dollar and you can't extend with a pay cut.
Actually, since Miami had the same issue being unable to comes to terms with Gallo and we have heard the Mavs liked him and he fits better than Drummond...bet it was Gallo.
RE: Buyout Market: DAL officially signs MKG | Broekhoff waived - aguiar95 - 02-18-2020
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1229890428075417601
RE: Buyout Market: DAL officially signs MKG | Broekhoff waived - Baller AI - 02-20-2020
(02-14-2020, 02:06 PM)Fuerza1 Wrote:(02-13-2020, 10:45 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: It tells me that the sample size is incredibly low to draw any definite conclusions about his shooting ability. 47 attempts is pitifully low; it put MKG at 207th in the league that year.
If you take his entire career, an 8 season sample size, it shows that he is a remarkably sub-par 3pt shooter that had an outlier season if anything.
Again, not saying that this is the be all end all of MKG as a shooter. It isn't. He has room to grow, and has shown flashes like DFS did 3 years ago. But it will be a mountainous project to get him to be a reliable shooter in today's NBA, and cherry picking stats to build up any expectation of MKG's ability to be an offensive player certainly won't help him.
Yeah, anyone who believes MKG has untapped potential in 3PT shooting is reaching.
Forget his age for a second. This is his 8th NBA season and still hasn't figured it out. I am sure professional coaches and even Michael Jordan tried their hardest to help his jumper. MKG is a great kid too, great work ethic.
It's not rocket science. He just can't shoot, his mechanics suck, it is what it is.
And that's okay, we don't need him to be an outside shooter. Mavs have plenty of offense, we just need a slasher who can play defense. Something like Shawn Marion off the bench.
Deandre Jordan learned to shoot freethrows for the first time in his career with his half season on the Mavs
Hate to see teams like our rivals (the Rockets) be aggressive at the tdl and in the buyout market, can we waive lee and jackson already so we can make some upgrades?
RE: Buyout Market: DAL officially signs MKG | Broekhoff waived - omahen - 02-20-2020
(02-20-2020, 08:57 AM)Baller AI Wrote: Deandre Jordan learned to shoot freethrows for the first time in his career with his half season on the Mavs
This shot (look below) can't be fixed. It's not like other teams don't have shooting coaches. DeAndre thing was psychological, he didn't need to change his shot mechanics. Not to mention free throws are something completely different. Even if I forget what I just said - why the hell didn't the magical Mavs shooting coaches teach Powell to shoot?
https://twitter.com/DwainPrice/status/1230253124050464768?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1230253124050464768&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Fdallas-mavericks
RE: Buyout Market: DAL officially signs MKG | Broekhoff waived - Baller AI - 02-20-2020
(02-20-2020, 09:01 AM)omahen Wrote:I believe with enough work and coaching any shot is fixable, or in this case, recreated haha. Unless its caused by nerve damage like fultz, I think even telling him to scrap his old shot and start over could help fix it. Kind of amazes me how some people have SUCH broken shots and make it pro, like Lonzo. This video should prove the mavs are already working on it with him, and based on their previous track record, I do believe MKG will be shooting threes if he stays with us long enough to develop it.(02-20-2020, 08:57 AM)Baller AI Wrote: Deandre Jordan learned to shoot freethrows for the first time in his career with his half season on the Mavs
This shot (look below) can't be fixed. It's not like other teams don't have shooting coaches. DeAndre thing was psychological, he didn't need to change his shot mechanics. Not to mention free throws are something completely different. Even if I forget what I just said - why the hell didn't the magical Mavs shooting coaches teach Powell to shoot?
https://twitter.com/DwainPrice/status/1230253124050464768?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1230253124050464768&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Fdallas-mavericks
RE: Buyout Market: DAL officially signs MKG | Broekhoff waived - fifteenth - 02-20-2020
I wonder why he's never fixed his lower arm angle
RE: Buyout Market: DAL officially signs MKG | Broekhoff waived - omahen - 02-20-2020
(02-20-2020, 01:44 PM)fifteenth Wrote: I wonder why he's never fixed his lower arm angle
Should be an interesting story. Professional basketball player with such broken shot mechanics that no coach since start of high school was able to teach him how to shoot properly.
RE: Buyout Market: DAL officially signs MKG | Broekhoff waived - dirkfansince1998 - 02-20-2020
No Dirk. No Holger. A mad scientist might be the only thing that can fix his jumper.
RE: Buyout Market: DAL officially signs MKG | Broekhoff waived - Tyler - 02-20-2020
(02-20-2020, 01:44 PM)fifteenth Wrote: I wonder why he's never fixed his lower arm angle
Sometimes being an important contributor is less about form and more about fit. Dallas has a history of getting the most out of guys with funny shots.
![[Image: 03marion-span-article-Large.jpg]](https://i.ibb.co/7jZ8PMQ/03marion-span-article-Large.jpg)
RE: Buyout Market: DAL officially signs MKG | Broekhoff waived - omahen - 02-20-2020
(02-20-2020, 03:20 PM)Tyler Wrote: Sometimes being an important contributor is less about form and more about fit. Dallas has a history of getting the most out of guys with funny shots.
Different times, different team, different star. Luka needs open driving lanes to be really effective. I doubt MKG will be used any more than in a specialist role here and there.
RE: Buyout Market: DAL officially signs MKG | Broekhoff waived - Jym - 02-20-2020
Should be a good chance for an offensive rebound
RE: Buyout Market: DAL officially signs MKG | Broekhoff waived - Scott41theMavs - 02-20-2020
(02-20-2020, 03:34 PM)omahen Wrote:(02-20-2020, 03:20 PM)Tyler Wrote: Sometimes being an important contributor is less about form and more about fit. Dallas has a history of getting the most out of guys with funny shots.
Different times, different team, different star. Luka needs open driving lanes to be really effective. I doubt MKG will be used any more than in a specialist role here and there.
Powell couldn't shoot from outside, and that did nothing to hurt the offense. Wing Powell.
If RC Bobi's this guy instead of giving him pretty much all of Justin's minutes at the bare-skull minimum, I might break things.
RE: Buyout Market: DAL officially signs MKG | Broekhoff waived - omahen - 02-20-2020
(02-20-2020, 04:20 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: Powell couldn't shoot from outside, and that did nothing to hurt the offense. Wing Powell.
Come on, Powell is elite rim runner...