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Mavs 109, Knicks 117
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MAVS SURRENDER FOURTH IN LAST SIX

In a game which the Mavericks were favored to win, they were instead stymied by a very good Knicks team, crumpling under the dominant force that was Julius Randle. 


GAME STORY

Alec Burks was out for the Knicks. The Mavericks had their full complement of players, except for a couple of rooks. 

The Mavs got out to a lackluster start, fading to a 25-34 deficit by the end of the first quarter.  Julius Randle seemed determined to redeem himself from his previous 5-20 no-show against the Mavs, laying 15 points on Dallas and completing 6 of his 8 shot attempts. The Knicks shot 70% from the floor, while the Mavericks were at 42%. KP was 1-6. The Dallas defense was poor. 

The Knicks’ lead quickly ballooned to 12 in the second. Hardaway was due for a positive regression, and fought back with a sizzling 14-point quarter to lead a Dallas rally. The Mavs were within one at 2:32, but back to five behind at 1:46. A KP three and two THJ free throws tied the game with 47 seconds left in the period. Unfortunately, a KP technical foul and an RJ Barrett three left Dallas trailing 52-56 at halftime. Julius Randle led all scorers with 21 points. Timmy and KP combined for 26. 

A Richardson three gave the Mavs a brief lead inside three minutes in the third. Luka free throws put the team ahead again about five minutes in. Dallas reached a quarter-high lead of 4 halfway through the period, and were up 1 with 1:06 remaining. However, a Gibson fadeaway and a Randle three put the scoreline at 79-83 going into the fourth. Randle continued to torch Dallas with a 14-point frame. 

Three minutes into the fourth, the Knicks were back up 12 against a Luka-less, KP-less lineup. Luka and Kris re-entered at 7:56, but Dallas never came closer than six again. With more defensive attention focused on Randle, RJ Barrett made them pay with 13 points. Late-game execution left much to be desired. 


STATISTICS

We need look no further than the shooting stats to see what accounted for the loss of this match. The Mavs got five more shots up, and had an incredible 17-shot advantage in 3PTAs, but their poor shooting made that translate into only one more made three than NY. 

The Knicks shot 52% inside the arc, 50% from deep, and 71% from the line, whereas the Mavs had comparable percentages of 54/33/73, taking a much higher portion of their shots from outside. Point differentials were -10 on points from twos, +3 on points from threes, and -1 on made free throws. It didn’t help that team snipers KP, Luka, THJ, and Brunson combined for 6-25 (24%) beyond the arc. The closing unit consisted of the starters, with Redick and Hardaway coming in for situational substitutions. 


PLAYERS

DONCIC. The Knicks made it a point not to let Luka beat them, and he responded with a stunning line of 22 points, a career-high-tying 19 assists, and 8 boards. He did go 2-9 from long range, and 6-10 from the line, but had only three turnovers. He had some incredible passes, including some oops to KP and DFS, and made a dive in front of Randle for a steal in the third. He and KP both played 38 minutes, and it is too bad they didn't come away with something to show for it. 

PORZINGIS. KP led the team with 23 points, although he was 8-20 from the field and 2-8 from deep. He also had a team-high 12 rebounds, and recorded a couple of blocks. He had a relatively frustrating first half, including missing a couple of dunks (possibly on uncalled fouls) and committing a technical foul right after the team had struggled to tie the game. We needn't even mention the defense. Despite the fairly impressive line, he needed to be better. 

DFS.  Dorian had a 13 and 7 night. After the game, he allowed that NY had been the better team. He was very impressed with Randle and said that after Randle made his first  three triples, the Mavs changed how they guarded him, but he kept hitting them from everywhere, and found shooters and cutters when they cut him off. He also noted that D Rose hurt them off the bench. Doe-Doe feels that the team needs to start coming out of the gate better and step up defensively. I imagine that Coach agrees. 

THJ. Hardaway had an outstanding second quarter — a drive and spin floater, a post-up hook shot over a double team, a transition layup on a downcourt pass from Luka, two threes, and two free throws, along with diving on the floor to fight Taj Gibson for a jump ball. However, after a 16-point first half, the Knicks adjusted, and Tim did not score again. In fact, he took only one shot in the entire second half. Something is wrong with that. 

REDICK. JJ gave a good account of himself in 17 minutes off the bench, scoring 9 points on 3-6 shooting (2-4 3PTAs). He also had 4 rebounds and a steal. At one point, he did well to draw a shooting foul, but completed only one of his free throws. He is a very accurate shooter, and looks to be helping the team, even in modest minutes. It seemed to me that he was exhibiting some leadership, trying to keep his young teammates calm and focused when they were letting their emotions get the better of them. If so, that can only endear him to Carlisle. 

STARTERS. Richardson had a pretty good line, with 14 points, 6-12 shooting, 2-5 from three, 4 rebounds, 4 assists, 2 steals, and 2 blocks. In the first quarter,  he exhibited some much-needed hustle, wrestling on the floor in an attempt to save an offensive rebound, and hitting a floater after grabbing an offensive board late in the period. Maxi, who was so effective against Randle in New York a couple of weeks ago, had a strangely quiet night with 6 points and 1 rebound, although he did have 2 blocks and a steal. It wasn't just Kleber -- all of the Mavericks big men looked outright impotent defensively on the night. 

RESERVES. It was a terrible night for Brunson, who was 3-9, and had only 6 points and 1 assist. He was limited to 17 minutes of action, as Carlisle reacted to his evening by giving Redick some of his PT. It was an even worse night for Powell, who did not score or even attempt a shot, and had 2 boards and 2 turnovers in 10 minutes. Luka made an outstanding pass to him in the second quarter, but he traveled on his way to the basket. It didn’t help when he fought for an offensive rebound in the fourth, and then passed the ball into the back court for a violation. Yikes. 

KNICKS. It was a heck of a night from Julius Randle, who had an amazing 44 points, 6 threes, 10 rebounds, and 7 assists. Whoa, mama!  The Mavs never had a whisper of an answer for him. When Randle wasn’t crushing Dallas, RJ Barrett was. He recorded 24 points, 9-18 shooting, 8 rebounds, and a 13-point fourth quarter. Derrick Rose had 15 points and 5 dimes off the bench. Former Mav Nerlens Noel also was a thorn in Dallas' side. 


OSERVATIONS

Carlisle opined, as per usual, that the poor first quarter really hurt the team. He noted the Knicks’ very coordinated, physical defense, and observed that the Mavs had been unable to match it. He admitted that Randle’s performance had been very difficult to counter, but thought that his players needed to do more to make it harder on the entire visiting team, and rued the fact that his squad didn’t take much of anything away from NY. 

Devin Harris offered the comment that the team’s defense has been slipping, and that they need to get it back together, despite the compressed schedule. Harp criticized Dallas for not closing out better, leaving too many shots unchallenged, playing in a flat, energy-less manner, and displaying a lack of leadership. 

These are not your older brother’s Knicks. Thibodeau has them playing at a very high defensive level, and, although they are not considered a particularly powerful offensive team, they had no trouble laying 117 points on the Mavs. I don’t see this contest as an example of stupidly throwing away a game against a team like OKC or Houston. The better team on the night won, and tbh, the Mavericks struggled to even compete. 

Unfortunately, Portland edged the Spurs with a one-point victory, despite Dame being out with a hammy, so the Mavs find themselves 2 games back of the 6th seed again — 2.5 effectively, since the Blazers have the tiebreaker, with a couple of games against the Lakers looming. 

Hopefully, our boys will at least be able to defeat Sac on Sunday, but they can’t take anything for granted at this point. These latest performances, including the Memphis win, don’t bode well. The Bally crew suggested that maybe the guys are just dragging from exhaustion, and it’s true that there’s no rest for the weary in this COVID season, but here we are. 

The Kings are up on Sunday. 
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#2
This team cannot win games if they shoot so poor from 3. 

Also dallas destroyer Randle showed back up. Its funny Randle would actually fit kinda well here too
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#3
There are some good players on this team, but this isn't a good team. I expect we're gonna see a lot of different faces next year.
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(04-17-2021, 02:26 AM)Branduil Wrote: There are some good players on this team, but this isn't a good team. I expect we're gonna see a lot of different faces next year.

Probably about a third of the roster.  Most of the core will be in tact.  I'd expect Redick, Melli, Boban, and WCS to be gone, though I could see picking up the WCS option as it's going to be difficult to bring in that many new faces.   I'd expect one of THJ and JRich to be back if not both.  We are probably stuck with Powell and Burke because of their contracts.
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(04-17-2021, 01:27 AM)mavsluvr Wrote: the team’s defense has been slipping


120.6 DRating in the last 4 games....NBA worst DRating this year is SAC with 117.7. 

So yeah...


The shooting has been BAD no doubt, but the D has been worse IMO and the ultimate culprit. They have a little time to right the ship, but right now they are a team that is more than stumbling toward the playoffs.
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(04-17-2021, 07:32 AM)Kammrath Wrote: 120.6 DRating in the last 4 games....NBA worst DRating this year is SAC with 117.7. 

So yeah...


The shooting has been BAD no doubt, but the D has been worse IMO and the ultimate culprit. They have a little time to right the ship, but right now they are a team that is more than stumbling toward the playoffs.

I would assume the reason is that the Mavs don´t utilize their squad enough, because (I apologize in advance) Carlisle is simply not good finding minute openings. He stays with starters too long at the end of won or lost games. He doesn´t mix weaker players with stronger units to learn from playing with better players, but hide them at the same time in useful minutes. He doesn´t use weaker players against tanking teams or in situations with huge leads.

It drives me nuts that every pre-season he doesn´t allow the rookies to mix and match with the top rotation. Always splits them like they are not belonging on the same team. Bey´s energy and rim-running would be more useful off the ball, if he played with Doncic and Porzingis rather than Hinton and Powell in garbage minutes.

Last 10 games

Reddick 45 minutes total
Burke 35 minutes total
Boban 32 minutes total
Green 31 minutes total
WCS 10 minutes total
Hinton 8 minutes total
Bey 7 minutes total
Terry 0 minutes total

That´s nearly half the roster, who over a 10 games stretch played less than 5 MPG.

If you look at rookies MPG, ours are amongst the league´s worst. In terms of total minutes:

They outplay 1-2 players drafted ahead of them. 
They get outplayed by 10-15 players drafted behind them.

And that´s with near 100% health availability (whatever might be going on with Terry)
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#7
This season is verging on a professional disaster for lots of folks connected to the Mavs, but most especially Donnie.  I appreciate that he found Luka and JB. And the Knicks trade looks good unless the Mavs are in the lottery this year (increasingly likely as the campaign for sixth sputters, the Grizzlies get healthy, and Steph rounds into form). But no players of merit have been added to the roster since that trade (at least no players who are still here). Just a bunch of spare parts, specialists, and JRich (who’s been a terrible disappointment).  The rookies are not impressive.  I can’t see where this is going anymore.  Maybe it’s time for some fresh ideas.
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(04-17-2021, 08:23 AM)ThisIStheYear Wrote: This season is verging on a professional disaster for lots of folks connected to the Mavs


So you're saying that ThisIsNOTtheYear?
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(04-17-2021, 08:23 AM)ThisIStheYear Wrote: This season is verging on a professional disaster for lots of folks connected to the Mavs .... Maybe it’s time for some fresh ideas.

Cuban isn't selling. So they will continue to be limited by the weaknesses of the guy at the top of the food chain regularly micro-managing (bad) decisions into the mix.
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(04-17-2021, 08:32 AM)F Gump Wrote: Cuban isn't selling. So they will continue to be limited by the weaknesses of the guy at the top of the food chain regularly micro-managing (bad) decisions into the mix.
I think the Rosas stint showed us all we needed to know about what Cuban wants in his FO crew. A bunch of guys that cheer his ideas on, not dissenters. I’ve said for a long time that we need someone who has the sure-fire indisputable knowledge to build a team. Someone like (for obv reasons not them) Riley or West.
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#11
Time for a new coach yet? 2011 was a long time ago and no playoff series wins since then, and it's not looking good this year.
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(04-17-2021, 02:26 AM)Branduil Wrote: There are some good players on this team, but this isn't a good team. I expect we're gonna see a lot of different faces next year.

Ya I hope so. I still like Luka and I think KP. Everyone not named Luka is disposable for the right move.
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THJ and KP were absolutely horrible on defense. You really can´t win anything with those players. Brunson was bad too - he multiple times blew the coverage of Randle after pick´n pop. Redick is what he is now, there´s nothing that convinces me, he needs more playing time.

Richardson has become severely underrated. He does a lot of good stuff night in and night out, even if he doesn´t shoot it well.

It´s crazy, but Maxi, DFS and Luka and maybe, just maybe Brunson are in my eyes the only players, that I want to have on the roster next season.

I´ve said it before, the only viable path for this team to contention is by trading KP. I´m convinced you can´t build a championship team around him on defense. It´s just not possible
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(04-17-2021, 07:32 AM)Kammrath Wrote: 120.6 DRating in the last 4 games....NBA worst DRating this year is SAC with 117.7. 

So yeah...


The shooting has been BAD no doubt, but the D has been worse IMO and the ultimate culprit. They have a little time to right the ship, but right now they are a team that is more than stumbling toward the playoffs.

What do you attribute this falloff to?
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(04-17-2021, 10:32 AM)Thukydides Wrote: It´s crazy, but Maxi, DFS and Luka and maybe, just maybe Brunson are in my eyes the only players, that I want to have on the roster next season.
I only want Luka and whoever is left over after “whatever it takes” trades to get a much better starting 5 group in here. 

Would like to have some familiar faces, but if Luka is the only man from this year’s team, I’ll be fine with that, as long as we have 5 higher end starters. 

Fill in the bench as we go, Donnie does that better than anything else.
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(04-17-2021, 10:36 AM)mavsluvr Wrote: What do you attribute this falloff to?
Mavs not lucky anymore regarding opponent 3FG%.
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I've said it before as far as 3 point shooting big men.  I love 'em.  

Great to be in their arsenal, but there is a difference between being more efficient overall i.e. 3 point shooting vs being more reliably consistent overall i.e. inside bigs scoring in the paint and also drawing fouls. 


Quote:PORZINGIS. KP led the team with 23 points, although he was 8-20 from the field and 2-8 from deep. He also had a team-high 12 rebounds, and recorded a couple of blocks. 


3 point efficiency by nature tends to be streakier than inside the paint.  Even the best 3pt marksmen have a bad shooting game or bad quarter or half then come back and scorch the nets leading a win. 

2 point efficiency especially from big men, think Shaq, Wilt, Embiid, Jokic etc. the efficiency is more reliable.  The team can call on it when in a crunch for buckets.  The Mavs don't have that unless Wonderboy keeps driving to the rim and getting all the pounding that goes along with that.  Watching Luka it looks like his young body is taking a serious wear and tear beating btw. 

I won't say mention the name, B*b*n, because that's a dead horse, Carlisle doesn't run his offense that way period, so there's no big to give the mavs that consistent efficiency inside.  They have to get it from their guard/wings and as feasible as that might seem its not the same thing. 

Just look at the Lakers, they have it all, inside and outside, they can score with the new 3, midrange and score consistently with Big and Bullyball inside.  Porzingis is maybe the only Big inside scorer but then he's not used consistently that way and he's not the body type to really lean into it.
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(04-17-2021, 10:44 AM)Thukydides Wrote: Mavs not lucky anymore regarding opponent 3FG%.

You think that's all there is to it? Bad luck?
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The way I see it is this: we had an elite offense with Seth and a healthy KP and a healthy DP last season. Unfortunately we couldn't see what this roster could have accomplished with Brunson, KP and DP out. The MBT came to the conclusion, that we needed defense around Luka. Thus they went after J-Rich and drafted Green, Bey and added Iwundu.
Now we must acknowledge that our defense hasn't improved at all. I'd say, it's even worse as we're worse on offense (leading to opponent transition). IMO the defense just can't be solid with KP. So we thought wing defense would improve things, which obviously didn't happen. Now we need to decide, what path to follow next year. IMO with Luka you cannot be satisfied with a great offense and a 2nd round exit. The defensive side must be the focus.

(04-17-2021, 11:05 AM)mavsluvr Wrote: You think that's all there is to it? Bad luck?
Yes, we were extremely lucky over the span in which our defense seemed to have been improved. Opp 3%FG was very bad
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(04-17-2021, 07:32 AM)Kammrath Wrote: 120.6 DRating in the last 4 games....NBA worst DRating this year is SAC with 117.7. 

So yeah...


The shooting has been BAD no doubt, but the D has been worse IMO and the ultimate culprit. They have a little time to right the ship, but right now they are a team that is more than stumbling toward the playoffs.
This. And the shooting has been connected to the D most of the year. When the D stops, the buckets stop dropping. 

The big question is why? Whoever is responsible for the lack of effort needs to move on in the offseason
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