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EXTENSION: Gobert signs 5yr/$205M w/ UTA | DAL "significant interest" if available
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(12-07-2020, 02:12 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: Hey, I’ve said from the very start of this long KP conversation that I’m leaving room for the idea that they can figure out how to use him in a more effective way to assuage some of my concerns. I just haven’t seen him be the offensive creator I think they need, YET. 
I do remember that, and then you say stuff like "long shot" which tells me how much you believe it will actually happen. I believe the ability is there for RC to figure out how to unlock...better than he has. I think the more time on the court and in practice KP has, the more it will become apparent. The question in my mind, is how much time will he get on the court and in practice if he keeps getting injured.

(12-07-2020, 02:12 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: In the next post, it seems like you are saying that two max players who are worthy of max contracts should automatically put you in championship contention. I don’t want to put words in your mouth, but that seems to be your point. If so, then no, I just simply disagree. 
One max player should be able to get a good to great team to the playoffs.

Two with inferior teammates should get you in the playoffs pretty easily and you should be winning at least a series. Two is the rule to be in contention for a championship (there are Dirk and Hakeem and Det team exceptions). Two has to be supported with great fitting and non-inferior players in order to get to contention status (LaL, LaC, Bro as examples).

The degree to how capable the teammates surrounding the 2 need to be is relative to the degree to which the max contract players exceed the max contract. Lebron and AD far exceed a max contract, so they don't need as great a supporting cast in order to be in the contention conversation. Kawhi far exceeds and PG is worthy, so they need a bit better supporting cast than Lebron and AD do.

If you have 3, that automatically puts you in the conversation regardless of the surrounding teammates.

Now, where does that leave the two max contract worthy players that I believe we have on our roster right now? I think Luka exceeds a max contract and not far exceeds because he still needs experience. In a year or two, he'll reach that as long as he keeps improving as we know he will. KP is at max contract worth due to his two way impact. He has the ability to exceed, and the outside chance of far exceeding in my view with experience and not being hampered with injuries.

We as a team need to have better surrounding players by the time Luka and KP reach their full potential to be in that conversation. Otherwise, we need to hope that KP becomes a far exceeding max contract.
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RE: The Case for Rudy Gobert - by Mavs2019 - 11-22-2020, 04:11 PM
RE: The Case for Rudy Gobert - by loki - 11-22-2020, 04:16 PM
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RE: The Case for Rudy Gobert - by cow - 11-22-2020, 04:24 PM
RE: The Case for Rudy Gobert - by ClutchDirk - 11-22-2020, 04:25 PM
RE: The Case for Rudy Gobert - by Kammrath - 11-22-2020, 04:28 PM
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RE: The Case for Rudy Gobert - by loki - 11-22-2020, 05:58 PM
RE: The Case for Rudy Gobert - by Kammrath - 11-22-2020, 04:39 PM
RE: The Case for Rudy Gobert - by KillerLeft - 11-22-2020, 04:48 PM
RE: The Case for Rudy Gobert - by JamesConway - 11-22-2020, 05:40 PM
RE: The Case for Rudy Gobert - by SkenfromLMF - 11-22-2020, 06:28 PM
RE: The Case for Rudy Gobert - by loki - 11-22-2020, 06:51 PM
RE: The Case for Rudy Gobert - by BolsDamols - 11-22-2020, 06:47 PM
RE: The Case for Rudy Gobert - by KillerLeft - 11-22-2020, 07:02 PM
RE: The Case for Rudy Gobert - by loki - 11-22-2020, 07:07 PM
RE: The Case for Rudy Gobert - by KillerLeft - 11-22-2020, 07:11 PM
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